Who is Barack Obama?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Ok I'm going to be biased, being a conservative.

But isn't this a decent question?

Are Americans really going to elect someone who continues to show questionable ties to questionable - even radical - people, on the sole basis that he's a good speaker.

I think this guy is super sneaky. The worst kind fo danger: someone who is smart enough to give you the answer he knows you want to hear, while secretly plotting otherwise. I can see the loko in his wife's eyes: pure evil.

These two are up to something. I can just picture them takling at night..alone... "one more month, honey. just hang in there. we are one month away from FINALLY getting the power we need. We can make all of those socialist dreams we plotted and talked about at ACORN meetings and at Bill Ayers' house and in the basement of our church after hearing our Pastor of 20 years spew racist filth about white people."

Isn't it a little odd that Michele Obama would say she's never been proud to be an American? What is really going on in a mind that would say that in public. These radicals are obviously intelligent enough to temper their language for a mass voter audience, but to say things they have said, and top hang with the people they hung with for DECADES...isn't this a little wierd?

And NOBODY is calling them on it.

We're possibly in for the most left wing, radical minded socialist government in the History of the United States.

And we wonder why markets keep falling.

[Guest American Woman]

We're possibly in for the most left wing, radical minded socialist government in the History of the United States.

One can only hope.

[Liam]

Isn't it a little odd that Michele Obama would say she's never been proud to be an American?

She never said that. You may have allowed conservative talk radio to tell you she said that and you may have conservative friends at the local coffee shop who insist she has said that, and you may even believe that she said that, but -- believe me -- she never said that.

[guyser]

...but to say things they have said, and top hang with the people they hung with for DECADES...isn't this a little wierd?

You mean like "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." Oh wait, sorry that was McCain.

See , works both ways.

They are politicians, they say lots of stupid things.

[Liam]

... I never addressed the main point of your question. Of course it is fair to ask the question, "who is he?"

But it's equally fair to ask the question of John McCain. Is he POW John? Keating Five John? Is he the John McCain who swallowed the insults Karl Rove thrust on his child only to turn around and hire the same political operatives to run his campaign? Is he John McCain the maverick who claims to have bucked his party and George Bush (seriously, based on opinion polls of Bush, it seems to only make McCain seem an opportunist)? Is he the John McCain who (rightfully) called the Christian right agents of intolerance only to painfully suck up to them later? Is he the John McCain who voluntarily chose to associate himself with Rev. Hagee? Is he the John McCain who "suspended" his campaign to rectify the financial crisis, despite having zero economics experience, who by all accounts did nothing while back in Washington, who then blamed Obama for the bailout's failure only to have (today) his campaign manager boast that McCain went back to Washington to kill the bailout? Is he the John McCain who chose Sarah Palin as the person who should be in command of this country after a 20 minute meeting? Is it the John McCain whose wife blames Obama for putting her son in harm's way when John McCain voted down appropriation bills for funding the war for political reasons? Sure, you can ask who is Obama, but I can also ask who is John McCain?

[sharkman]

She never said that. You may have allowed conservative talk radio to tell you she said that and you may have conservative friends at the local coffee shop who insist she has said that, and you may even believe that she said that, but -- believe me -- she never said that.

Good grief, she did too, despite all of your liberal left wing media outlets, papers and website propaganda.

Guyser, you don't get it and it's right there in your McCain quote. What he said ain't dangerous. What Michelle said is bizarre and reveals an attitude that should disqualify her in the mind of an American voter with common sense.

At any rate, it seems the US is going to learn a very hard lesson, and it's sad that at the very election cycle in which the Dems are getting a gimme, they produce the most socialist minded leftwinger in a very long time. However, it will only take about 2 years for his pie in the sky government spending and programs to completely dry up the coffers and the economy, which with the changed landscape of the world financial crisis will be very dry indeed.

But the United States will pay a very high price for Obama's sins.

[BubberMiley]

But the United States will pay a very high price for Obama's sins.

Or, more likely, he'll push a contemporary left-wing, populist, responsible agenda like the Manitoba NDP, which after nine years has yet to run a deficit and is leading the nation in economic growth. http://www.conferenceboard.ca/documents.asp?rnext=2684

And being liberal means he doesn't have to invade countries, give friendly corporations multi-million dollar no-bid contracts, or deregulate the banking industry so CEOs can take off with Mega-million-dollar paydays.

[bush_cheney2004]

....And being liberal means he doesn't have to invade countries, give friendly corporations multi-million dollar no-bid contracts, or deregulate the banking industry so CEOs can take off with Mega-million-dollar paydays.

Yea...that would never happen with a "liberal" US president.....LOL!

[GostHacked]

LOL, McCain knows what the deal is here it seems.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/silentpatrio...ying-obama-dece

Maybe he should let his supporters know that.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/john-amato/w...k-radio-blogger

http://www.crooksandliars.com/silentpatriot/palin-mccain-mob

[GostHacked]

Good grief, she did too, despite all of your liberal left wing media outlets, papers and website propaganda.

Guyser, you don't get it and it's right there in your McCain quote. What he said ain't dangerous. What Michelle said is bizarre and reveals an attitude that should disqualify her in the mind of an American voter with common sense.

Well she is not even running for office. I will call you out on this one ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfuyarWH2Ig

"For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finaly making a comeback." There is the exact quote for you too damn lazy to do a 10 second search on youtube. Or it is because you did not want to prove you were wrong in what she said.

At any rate, it seems the US is going to learn a very hard lesson, and it's sad that at the very election cycle in which the Dems are getting a gimme, they produce the most socialist minded leftwinger in a very long time. However, it will only take about 2 years for his pie in the sky government spending and programs to completely dry up the coffers and the economy, which with the changed landscape of the world financial crisis will be very dry indeed.

And um, the economies are already drying up, if you go by the global stockmarket meltdown perpetuated by gross idiodicy and greed in the business practices. I don't think Repubs or Dems are to blame individualy, together with the lobbyists in and out of government provided an envorinment in the economy which could be big pay out or ... what we see now. However, I will say there are a few who are making big money on this whole so called crisis.

But the United States will pay a very high price for Obama's sins.

They are already paying for Clinton's and George's, and George's dad's, possibly Regan, Nixon, back back back back...

[Liam]

Good grief, she did too, despite all of your liberal left wing media outlets, papers and website propaganda.

No, she did not.

Here is her quote in full:

"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."

[bush_cheney2004]

"And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country...

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Ergo, she was was not really proud of her country before this moment (as an "adult"). Presumably, she may have been proud as a minor.

[Guest American Woman]

And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country...

Ergo, she was was not really proud of her country before this moment (as an "adult"). Presumably, she may have been proud as a minor.

Um. No. Don't know how to read? Lack in reading comprehension? Or are you just dishonest? She was, and has said as much, proud of America before, but at that moment she was "really" proud, so your "presumably, she may have been proud as a minor" is pure hogwash. REALLY proud, vs. proud. Since you quoted it right in the first part of your post, I have to presume you are just dishonest. Which doesn't surprise me.

[sharkman]

Well she is not even running for office. I will call you out on this one ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfuyarWH2Ig

"For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finaly making a comeback." There is the exact quote for you too damn lazy to do a 10 second search on youtube. Or it is because you did not want to prove you were wrong in what she said.

Fair enough, I just skimmed the thread and matched her 'for the first time..' comment and with what was submitted here. But it is the comment I consider dangerous. How in the world will you ever forgive my damn lazy transgression?

And um, the economies are already drying up, if you go by the global stockmarket meltdown perpetuated by gross idiodicy and greed in the business practices. I don't think Repubs or Dems are to blame individualy, together with the lobbyists in and out of government provided an envorinment in the economy which could be big pay out or ... what we see now. However, I will say there are a few who are making big money on this whole so called crisis.

Um, I clearly referenced the global meltdown in my comment which you are responding to. Here it is again: "...which with the changed landscape of the world financial crisis will be very dry indeed."

They are already paying for Clinton's and George's, and George's dad's, possibly Regan, Nixon, back back back back...

They already had paid for Nixon, Carter and previous eras. Who do we blame for this? I think this mess lies clearly at the feet of the American citizen. At least the ones who sought and bought homes they could not afford, and loaded up the credit cards to max because they wanted the stuff now, damn it! There was a time when most citizens would be afraid to do that. I'm not sure where the healthy respect of debt went, but it was a good thing. Stupid is as stupid does. They will learn to respect debt all over again, I guess.

Edited October 11, 2008 by sharkman

[Liam]

Ergo, she was was not really proud of her country before this moment (as an "adult"). Presumably, she may have been proud as a minor.

I have no problem with people parsing language, provided it is correctly quoted. You can draw your conclusion and it may actually even be right, but I wanted to correct the notion (rampant in Republican circles) that Michelle Obama said she was never proud of her country. She did not say that.

[bush_cheney2004]

Um. No. Don't know how to read? Lack in reading comprehension? Or are you just dishonest? She was, and has said as much, proud of America before, but at that moment she was "really" proud, so your "presumably, she may have been proud as a minor" is pure hogwash. REALLY proud, vs. proud. Since you quoted it right in the first part of your post, I have to presume you are just dishonest. Which doesn't surprise me.

Attacking me won't change the political dynamic for Michelle's ill chosen words.

[Guest American Woman]

Attacking me won't change the political dynamic for Michelle's ill chosen words.

Is that what you Republican kids are calling 'the truth' these days? An "attack?"

You and your ilk's lies and misinterpretations not only bore me to death, but are going to be the final nail in McCain's/Palin's coffin next month. So with that in mind, keep it up. One more nail will only sweeten the victory.

Edited October 11, 2008 by American Woman

[BC_chick]

Ergo, she was was not really proud of her country before this moment (as an "adult"). Presumably, she may have been proud as a minor.

"I think I am Jesus incarnate..... as much as I think unicorns can fly"

See what a difference that second part of the statement makes? That's why we say it's dishonset to quote out of context.

[bush_cheney2004]

Is that what you Republican kids are calling 'the truth' these days? An "attack?"

It's not about me...except for you! "Reading comprehension"?

You and your ilk's lies and misinterpretations not only bore me to death, but are going to be the final nail in McCain's/Palin's coffin next month. So with that in mind, keep it up. One more nail will only sweeten the victory.

Good luck...seems there was difficulty in putting the McCain-Palin ticket away long ago.....I wonder why?

Edited October 11, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[GostHacked]

Fair enough, I just skimmed the thread and matched her 'for the first time..' comment and with what was submitted here. But it is the comment I consider dangerous. How in the world will you ever forgive my damn lazy transgression?

I won't. Because you will do it again, and then apologize that you are lazy.

Um, I clearly referenced the global meltdown in my comment which you are responding to. Here it is again: "...which with the changed landscape of the world financial crisis will be very dry indeed."

Whatever is happening now is most likely way beyond Obama's and McCain's good talents put together.

They already had paid for Nixon, Carter and previous eras. Who do we blame for this? I think this mess lies clearly at the feet of the American citizen. At least the ones who sought and bought homes they could not afford, and loaded up the credit cards to max because they wanted the stuff now, damn it! There was a time when most citizens would be afraid to do that. I'm not sure where the healthy respect of debt went, but it was a good thing. Stupid is as stupid does. They will learn to respect debt all over again, I guess.

They have to change the National Debt Clock in NYC. It does not have enough digits anymore.

[Oleg Bach]

Attacking me won't change the political dynamic for Michelle's ill chosen words.

Ill chosen words? You have such a way with words. So who is Barack Obama? - no one knows for sure and by the time you find out you may be either pleasantly surprised or horrified..

[BubberMiley]

Yes, he's only been running for president for two years. Hardly a chance for anyone to get to know him.

[GostHacked]

Yes, he's only been running for president for two years. Hardly a chance for anyone to get to know him.

Check out the vids I posted on the first page, you will get a nice idea of what kind of people support McCain.

[bush_cheney2004]

Check out the vids I posted on the first page, you will get a nice idea of what kind of people support McCain.

We knew who John McCain was long before your "vids" or even a presidential run. Obama, not so much.

[BubberMiley]

And yet, McCain has been behaving in such an erratic, random, contradictory manner during this campaign, people are beginning to question how well they thought they knew him.