Sounds like Phun

[obsidian]

Over 1 million are on the domestic terrorist watch list for unspecified "anti-social" behaviour or political beliefs.

http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazi...re_01-print.php

Canada and the US now both allow eachother's troops within their countries.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.ht...ef-902a1d14879d

what a pleasant thing to imagine

[M.Dancer]

Canada and the US now both allow eachother's troops within their countries.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.ht...ef-902a1d14879d

what a pleasant thing to imagine

Woo Hoo!!!!...old news!!!!

Edited July 24, 2008 by M.Dancer

[obsidian]

yes, so old that they should never be brought to light or questioned or opposed in a public forum...

[M.Dancer]

yes, so old that they should never be brought to light or questioned or opposed in a public forum...

So old that it has been brought to light, debated here till the cows went home and the mice scurried back to thier tin foil lined holes

[obsidian]

well I don't see any on the main page going back a month...

but i sincerely apologize I cannot search the entire website for past references of the topic

So if anyone opposes the policies of their gov't they should only speak up about it in limited window of time before and after the legislation? And afterwards forget it ever happened? Even if the issue clearly still exists?

mainly that a "national emergency" is undefined.....and during a national emergency martial law will be declared....and the gov't has the right to seize property, citizens, mobilize civillians into mobilized work brigades, control all oil, water & electricity, etc., and to detain pre-selected people that have been picked up as possible threats through MAIN CORE and PROMIS(on uncircumstandtial evidence)....and the duration of continuity plan is undefined.....and this could all be defined as a fascist tyranny..

what a pleasant thing to imagine...

Edited July 24, 2008 by obsidian

[AngusThermopyle]

Canada and the US now both allow eachother's troops within their countries.

No way!!!

You mean just like we've been doing for years and years already!

Wow!!!

What a shocker!!!

[obsidian]

not only is tinfoil great for storing and cooking food in

it's a great insulator from all the conspiracy rays

so far if tin foiled my:

deck

car

dog

cottage

every room except where i have my radio

my other car(except windshield, i bought 5'' thick glass so i hope it block them rays)

my neighbours house (snuck in and they didnt notice yet, but they'll surely thank me)

i even tinfoiled my cell phone so i wouldnt get cancer but now it doesn't work for some reason

and ive taped tinfoil to the inside of 100 newspaper hats i made they look GREAT!

im making a killing so far, i sell them on the side of the road every day, i cant even imagine how many lives ive saved!!

AND FOR A DELICOUS DESERT

mix 1 cup of powdered alluminum to anything and it will transform into a yummy choclate banana split sunday

(THE RUMORS ARE TRUE!!!BRITISH GRADE TINFOIL TASTES MUCH MUCH SWEETER!!!!!)

[M.Dancer]

well I don't see any on the main page going back a month...

Well there is a surprise...you went back a whole month for a story that was published....

David Pugliese , Canwest News Service

Published: Friday, February 22, 2008

but i sincerely apologize I cannot search the entire website for past references of the topic

Actually, you can search the entire website....they have this thing...it's called a "SEARCH ENGINE"

And I pulled it up in one go.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....st&p=294111

I think that's one of the problems with the tinfoil set. They are intellectually lazy.

[M.Dancer]

.....and during a national emergency martial law will be declared....and the gov't has the right to seize property, citizens, mobilize civillians into mobilized work brigades, control all oil, water & electricity, etc., and to detain pre-selected people that have been picked up as possible threats through MAIN CORE and PROMIS(on uncircumstandtial evidence)....and the duration of continuity plan is undefined.....and this could all be defined as a fascist tyranny..

what a pleasant thing to imagine...

Imagination is the operative verb....none of your claims can be backed up by any sort of legislation...just pure paranoid day dreaming

[bush_cheney2004]

...what a pleasant thing to imagine...

Did we "imagine" voting for our "government" representatives too? Do you always react this way when the policy cookie doesn't crumble the way you like?

[obsidian]

no i mean in the context of a national emergency which was passed in feb 08, perhaps you

"Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas. "

and the US soldiers will follow US orders in Canada, and i just outlined my many concerns over the US legislation regarding "national emergencies"

and wondering why the US would take orders from Canada if we ever wanted them to leave after(or disputed when the emergency was over), i don't want to be annexed for manifest destiny even if it is only an off-shoot

[bush_cheney2004]

no i mean in the context of a national emergency which was passed in feb 08, perhaps you

You have already been shown the link to our previous debate on the issue.

and wondering why the US would take orders from Canada if we ever wanted them to leave after(or disputed when the emergency was over), i don't want to be annexed for manifest destiny even if it is only an off-shoot

The US "takes orders" from nobody, but it has been known to work cooperatively with other nations during a crisis or national emergency. The only way you'll be annexed is by continuing to dick things up domestically while obsessing on "Amerikans".

[GostHacked]

Did we "imagine" voting for our "government" representatives too? Do you always react this way when the policy cookie doesn't crumble the way you like?

Yep. Well you voted, but since our elected representatives do what they want regardless, your vote means crap. Governmental policies are around much longer than any termed PM or President.

[obsidian]

well actually BC i dont vote b/c I am not 18. the public should always openly criticize their actions if they feel it neccessary to do so, it's their right.

alot of the problems i have with the policies are decades old, does that mean they should never be revised???

If I make a decision I can never question it after the fact?

[bush_cheney2004]

Yep. Well you voted, but since our elected representatives do what they want regardless, your vote means crap. Governmental policies are around much longer than any termed PM or President.

Speak for yourself....I'm quite satisfied with most of the policies from my elected representatives, and don't whine too much about the ones I dislike. There is another election in about 100 days for me....you....who knows when?

[GostHacked]

The US and Canada has had military cooperation before. It has happened in emergencies. However, these new measures allow a US ranking officer to command multinational forces in Canada during emergencies. And vice versa. It would allow the militaries to cross borders without permission.

With the creation of the North American Union, you can also expect to see Mexican military personelle taking commanding roles in the US and Canada. This is the case for the European Union.

Ask yourself this:

If the NAU is to open borders and create a North American Union, why would the US spend all this time and money keeping those pesky Mexicans out of the country? In due time they will be able to travel across the border without much ado.

[obsidian]

"dick things up domestically " care to elaborate?

and yes that was exactly my point the US takes orders from nobody

[bush_cheney2004]

"dick things up domestically " care to elaborate?

and yes that was exactly my point the US takes orders from nobody

WRT "annexation", best to play closer attention to independence and separatists movements on your own turf than to worry about the Yankee bogeyman across the border. But if it's paranoid fear you wish, consider that in a so-called North American Union, Canadians would only be 8% of the population.

[obsidian]

i think what the US could impose would be several fold greater than any seperatist movement in Canada. Once again you ask me to completely ignore something legitimate because?

[GostHacked]

WRT "annexation", best to play closer attention to independence and separatists movements on your own turf than to worry about the Yankee bogeyman across the border. But if it's paranoid fear you wish, consider that in a so-called North American Union, Canadians would only be 8% of the population.

lololololol... this is why you bring up Canada 92% of the time ...lololololol

Also, the French don't bother me none. GIT YER FREEEEDUUUMMM FRIIIEESSS !!! As long as it has cheese curds and gravy.

[M.Dancer]

. It would allow the militaries to cross borders without permission.

Nonsense and so was the rest of the post.

[bush_cheney2004]

lololololol... this is why you bring up Canada 92% of the time ...lololololol

This is a Canadian forum...no? Besides, it's fair play to return the ad nauseum "Amerika" rants in kind.

Edited July 25, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[GostHacked]

Nonsense and so was the rest of the post.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.ht...ef-902a1d14879d

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal

..

"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."

[GostHacked]

This is a Canadian forum...no? Besides, it's fair play to return the ad nauseum "Amerika" rants in kind.

Nah, it's just those threads in where Canada is not even mentioned, but you never fail to bring it up. Eventhough this is a Canadian website, we do have US topics, and many other topics, buuuut you never fail to bring up Canada. I thought it was cute at first. But what I think does not matter.

"But but but... he does it too...." is nothing but a cop out.

But since this is the Rest of the World section of the website. I guess you can do like South Park and Blame Canada whenever your little heart desires.

[eyeball]

The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

On the one hand this seems rather dissonant yet somehow comforting. It indicates a good healthy mistrust of government is thriving. On the other hand its no wonder the Harper government has kept silent on the deal it probably doesn't know who or what to trust either.

I don't know if all this mistrust and apparent secrecy is very healthy in the long run.