Kalp Posted May 5, 2008 Report Posted May 5, 2008 The US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has finally unveiled before the world, the reason behind the prevailing food crisis. According to her, people of China and India have started consuming good food and their increased intake is the reason why world grocery has come to a level of extinction. What do you think...???? Read more about her unveiled statements http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=133493 Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 5, 2008 Report Posted May 5, 2008 Read more about her unveiled statementshttp://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=133493 Intrestingly, or unsurprisingly, I didn't find any quites from Rice in the link. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Leafless Posted May 5, 2008 Report Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) What do you think...???? First, most of the 183 nations of the world are now, to some extent, dependent on food imports. Most of these imports are cereal surpluses produced only in those countries that have relatively low population densities and practice intensive agriculture. For instance, the United States, Canada, Australia, Oceania, and Argentina provide 81 percent of net cereal exports on the world market. If, as projected, the U.S. population doubles in the next 60 years (Pimentel et al., 1994), then its cereal and other food resources would have to be used domestically to feed 520 million hungry Americans. Then the U.S. would cease to be a food exporting country. In the future, when exporting nations must keep surpluses at home, Egypt, Jordan, and countless other countries in Africa and Asia will be without the food imports that now help them survive. China, which now imports many tons of food, illustrates this problem. As the Worldwatch Institute has pointed out, if China's population increases by 500 million and their soil erosion continues unabated, it will need to import 200-400 million tons of food each year by 2050 (Brown, 1995). But by then, sufficient food imports probably will not be available on the international market. Yes, by all means, when the food crunch becomes serious, exporting nations must look after their own. Surely, it is not expected successful food producing nations be responsible for the irresponsible nations of the world. And this is an old 1996 report. http://dieoff.org/page57.htm Edited May 5, 2008 by Leafless Quote
Wilber Posted May 5, 2008 Report Posted May 5, 2008 Intrestingly, or unsurprisingly, I didn't find any quites from Rice in the link. Me neither. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
eyeball Posted May 6, 2008 Report Posted May 6, 2008 Rice is even more scarce than we thought? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Wilber Posted May 6, 2008 Report Posted May 6, 2008 Rice is even more scarce than we thought? Good one. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
AngusThermopyle Posted May 6, 2008 Report Posted May 6, 2008 This whole thread sort of relates to what I've said previously about food being one of the most very valuable commodities we have. It also serves to illustrate the lack of wisdom shown when we become entirely dependent on others to feed us. Its unfortunate that for many years now we have done far less than we could or should to support and encourage the agricultural sector. Of all things we can invest in our farmers should be one of the priorities, these are the guys who feed us after all. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
jbg Posted February 1, 2009 Report Posted February 1, 2009 Rice is even more scarce than we thought? Good one. She is scarce now. Real rice isn't.That "shortage" went the way of high gas prices. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Oleg Bach Posted February 1, 2009 Report Posted February 1, 2009 Condy Rice has never had an original thought of her own. Take away her piano music and she can not rock! She is a well researched and conditioned acedemic. A person who is the product of a nation that refused to acknowledge that there are actually real living human beings out side of the United States - the institutional dummying down of America was implimented for one reason only - to dehumanize the rest of the world so the average Joe would not have a problem with the plundering and rape of the other inhabitants of the planet --- after all they are not people. The idea that some others else where are eating better food and that it is a problem is coldly bizarre...when you have debates on talk radio whether the average fat ass American should pay for two seat when they fly...to some place to eat more food and get drunk. Rice is one of those over achieving black females that will say anything to please her cruel anglo masters that elevated this girl to such a high position - Her status politically, socially and economically is more important to her than the thought of feeding the less fortunate - which she has been taught to resent. She is actually a useless non-entity. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Posted February 1, 2009 .... the institutional dummying down of America was implimented for one reason only - to dehumanize the rest of the world so the average Joe would not have a problem with the plundering and rape of the other inhabitants of the planet - LOL! Where the hell do you think you live? .... Rice is one of those over achieving black females that will say anything to please her cruel anglo masters that elevated this girl to such a high position - Her status politically, socially and economically is more important to her than the thought of feeding the less fortunate - which she has been taught to resent. She is actually a useless non-entity. You don't much about Ms. Rice's humble beginnings....and couldn't even hold up her bra. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 You don't much about Ms. Rice's humble beginnings....and couldn't even hold up her bra. Most Canadians are not used to the concept of people who have humble beginnings coming out of nowhere and going on to big things. Even Chretien, the Shawinigan Peasant, was a professional pol since 1963. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Oleg Bach Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 LOL! Where the hell do you think you live?You don't much about Ms. Rice's humble beginnings....and couldn't even hold up her bra. The fact that she has humble beginings makes her more of a lacky then not - so what...I would have rather had a person in her postion born to money and power who was not so easily impressed by HERSELF. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 The fact that she has humble beginings makes her more of a lacky then not - so what...I would have rather had a person in her postion born to money and power who was not so easily impressed by HERSELF. No...it makes her very successful by any standard. Maybe a book of your rantings would sell as well? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 No...it makes her very successful by any standard. Maybe a book of your rantings would sell as well? Obama hand Humble beginnings does this mean you must now respect him? No cause no one cares. Quote
blueblood Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 Good one.She is scarce now. Real rice isn't. That "shortage" went the way of high gas prices. More like a worldwide bumper crop. Don't worry Obama will "fix" that little problem... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
blueblood Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 This whole thread sort of relates to what I've said previously about food being one of the most very valuable commodities we have. It also serves to illustrate the lack of wisdom shown when we become entirely dependent on others to feed us. Its unfortunate that for many years now we have done far less than we could or should to support and encourage the agricultural sector. Of all things we can invest in our farmers should be one of the priorities, these are the guys who feed us after all. Don't worry, we got ourselves out of that pickle. There has been a paradigm shift in the range of grains trading. If the third world doesn't want to pay for our surplus grain, then we light it on fire! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jbg Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 Obama hand Humble beginnings does this mean you must now respect him? No cause no one cares. A good part of how he was elected comes from his rags to comfort story. That is part of the American ethos and the American myth. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 Most Canadians are not used to the concept of people who have humble beginnings coming out of nowhere and going on to big things. Even Chretien, the Shawinigan Peasant, was a professional pol since 1963. I think you were more accurate in your previous assessments of Canada when you claimed you knew very, very little about it. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jbg Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 I think you were more accurate in your previous assessments of Canada when you claimed you knew very, very little about it.Exactly.I am also surprised at your new propensity for insults and personal attacks. I have my own views on the reasons for those. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BigAl Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 A good part of how he was elected comes from his rags to comfort story. That is part of the American ethos and the American myth. Well of course -- we're talking about a nation in which people believe winning the lottery will provide for their retirement...the whole "rags to riches" thing is a nice idea but it involves work -- and most Americans just don't want to work that hard. Better to happen upon a vein of gold or oil sands or something -- or release a mediocre album that sells ten million copies. It's a sad, sad world. Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Exactly.I am also surprised at your new propensity for insults and personal attacks. I have my own views on the reasons for those. I've never made an insult or personal attack. I was just reminding you how you have stated many times you know very little about Canada. In terms of your assessment, that rings true. Most people in Canada who have money are entirely self-made, so the concept of rags to riches is not only widely accepted but the norm. As for "your own views," I assume the reason you keep them to yourself is you feel they aren't worth sharing. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Well of course -- we're talking about a nation in which people believe winning the lottery will provide for their retirement...the whole "rags to riches" thing is a nice idea but it involves work -- and most Americans just don't want to work that hard. Better to happen upon a vein of gold or oil sands or something -- or release a mediocre album that sells ten million copies. It's a sad, sad world. I disagree...the American Dream is alive and well, that dream being the potential reward for hard work and risk taking. I have never read a description of the Canadian Dream is such a thing exists...beyond extended EI payments. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Melanie_ Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Oleg, for a few wild moments I actually thought you were coherent, and was starting to agree with you: The idea that some others else where are eating better food and that it is a problem is coldly bizarre...when you have debates on talk radio whether the average fat ass American should pay for two seat when they fly...to some place to eat more food and get drunk. and then this happened... Rice is one of those over achieving black females that will say anything to please her cruel anglo masters that elevated this girl to such a high position Blueblood, you need to add a "nana nana booboo" to this: If the third world doesn't want to pay for our surplus grain, then we light it on fire! Try extending a helping hand to those in need. Someday you might need a bit of help yourself. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
jbg Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 -- and most Americans just don't want to work that hard.I work pretty hard, personally. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I work pretty hard, personally. You don't get to nearly 8000 posts on an obscure Internet forum without working hard. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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