jbg Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 Query, will this "offend" certain identifiable people? Link here, excerpts below: Christian 'infidels' to eat 'Muhammad' Political TV hosts fed up with PC Islam will devour cookie with face of prophet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 24, 2008 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Joe Kovacs © 2008 WorldNetDaily.com A new, cutting-edge, political TV show will challenge Islam with biting humor tomorrow night, placing the face of the prophet Muhammad onto a cookie and then having it eaten on camera. "We're going to take a stand and say Muhammad's face is delicious," said Molotov Mitchell, the 28-year-old incendiary creator and host of "Flamethrower," a program described as a low-budget, gritty cross between the "The Daily Show," "The Colbert Report," and "The View" if Ann Coulter were the producer. "This is religious and culinary history in the making." The theme of this week's episode is "All Things Islam," as panelists take on the faith of Muslims in a no-holds-barred fashion. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
AngusThermopyle Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 I guess they better put the bomb and riot squads on alert. Maybe let the fire departments know too. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
kimmy Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 yummy! Delicious and confrontational! -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Shakeyhands Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 Stupid & unneccesary. Why do those on the right feel the need to be so inflammatory? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
jbg Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) Stupid & unneccesary. Why do those on the right feel the need to be so inflammatory?I am not on the right. But in Britain, they are changing "Three Little Piggies" to "Three Little Puppies" to avoid "offending" the Muslims. Bear in mind that Jews and Muslims have identical dietary rules relating to pigs. The only reason I can think of that Jews were not spared "offense" was that the Jews have better things to do during their days than create death on a mass scale. A group should not be able to get ahead merely by virtue of being dangerous. And yes, that distinction "inflames" some people, right wingers and left-wingers like myself. Edited January 31, 2008 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
August1991 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) This is like Geert Wilders' planned short documentary: Last week, Syria’s Grand Mufti Ahmad Badr al-Din Hassoun said that if the Freedom Party leader tears up or burns a Koran in his film, “this will simply mean he is inciting wars and bloodshed. And he will be responsible. It is the responsibility of the Dutch people to stop Wilders.”Writing Wednesday in De Volkskrant, Wilders complains that the “panic” over the film, which reached new heights over the weekend, would not have happened if he had criticized the Bible. He concludes that this demonstrates the Dutch government’s obsession with Islamic sensibilities. “In this way the Koran film has already proved its usefulness.” He also claims that the government’s anti-terrorism chief warned him last week that he might have to leave the country if the film is shown. Wilders told De Volkskrant that he needs another two weeks to finish editing the film. Variety Islamic states' envoys to the Netherlands are planning to meet the country's officials to warn them against producing an anti-Islam film. The ambassadors from Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) member states have held a meeting to discuss ways to prevent the production of a controversial film by a far-right Dutch lawmaker that would be insulting to Islam, informed sources told Press TV. Dutch MP Geert Wilders had earlier said that he planned to make the film to attack the Holy Qur'an. The sources said the diplomats proposed that they hold a meeting with the Dutch Foreign Minister and other senior officials to warn them against the move and set up mechanisms to prevent insulting religious beliefs. The controversial film is expected to spark worldwide protests similar to those staged after the publishing of a series of blasphemous cartoons by a Danish daily. Iranian TV---- Stupid & unneccesary. Why do those on the right feel the need to be so inflammatory?It used to be people on the Left who were iconoclasts. Edited January 31, 2008 by August1991 Quote
kuzadd Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) Stupid & unneccesary. Why do those on the right feel the need to be so inflammatory? Why do those on the "right" feel the need to be so inflammatory? Because it stirs up the unthinking masses so well, who can then just react in a foolish manner! It manipulates the emotions oh so very well. why else.? certainly not to promote, dialogue, or educate what's it going to prove? That people who engage in this are morons, who have nothing really of interest to do or say, so they resort to inflammatory tactics. In other words, they make themselves look the fool, the backward cavemen .They make themselves look the unelightened , inferior persons they really are anyway. Edited January 31, 2008 by kuzadd Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
AngusThermopyle Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 what's it going to prove?That people who engage in this are morons, who have nothing really of interest to do or say, so they resort to inflammatory tactics. In other words, they make themselves look the fool, the backward cavemen .They make themselves look the unelightened , inferior persons they really are anyway. I have to agree. It appears to be shit disturbing for the sake of shit disturbing. I'm sure they know the extreme reaction this will provoke in certain segments of the Muslim population. As such it would appear that they want trouble. The reaction will be a foregone conclusion of course, outrage and quite possibly (even likely) violence. This is not to excuse the idiots who will react violently either. As far as I'm concerned they are both groups of idiots. It must be mentioned however that if these provocative idiots are to be viewed as inferior then the idiots who react violently should also be viewed in the same light. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
jbg Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Posted January 31, 2008 The reaction (of the Muslims) will be a foregone conclusion of course, outrage and quite possibly (even likely) violence. This is not to excuse the idiots who will react violently either. As far as I'm concerned they are both groups of idiots. It must be mentioned however that if these provocative idiots are to be viewed as inferior then the idiots who react violently should also be viewed in the same light. Why don't the Jews react in an extreme manner to "Three Little Piggies" or for that matter some of the virulently anti-Jewish characatures emanating from Arab newspapers? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
kuzadd Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 I have to agree. It appears to be shit disturbing for the sake of shit disturbing. I'm sure they know the extreme reaction this will provoke in certain segments of the Muslim population. As such it would appear that they want trouble.The reaction will be a foregone conclusion of course, outrage and quite possibly (even likely) violence. This is not to excuse the idiots who will react violently either. As far as I'm concerned they are both groups of idiots. It must be mentioned however that if these provocative idiots are to be viewed as inferior then the idiots who react violently should also be viewed in the same light. The reaction of outrage and quite possibly violence would be the same if Muslims did anything as provocative to christians. In fact, and point one could say that when certain movies and books come out (are produced) we have seen christians act with the same outrage and even resorting to violence. Think of the hulabaloo over Harry Potter, the Golden Compass , the DaVinci code, release of books which there was a news story in which Christians went into a book store in Britian and overturned the displays, I wanna say Richard Dawkins, but, I don't think that is correct. That is a western phenomena virtually christian against christian. Has there been any reaction yet to this? I don't know? It must be mentioned however that if these provocative idiots are to be viewed as inferior then the idiots who react violently should also be viewed in the same light. I would agree. But keep in mind who initiates this type of garbage, is the worse for doing it. That said... I would hope that common sense would rule and people will see this for what it is, trashy provacation , and not take the bait. Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
jefferiah Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) Think of the hulabaloo over Harry Potter, the Golden Compass , the DaVinci code, release of books which there And yet no one is overly afraid of the Christian reaction and the books get printed. Embassies are not burned, nuns don't get shot. Do you think Mr. Dawkins or JK Rowling are in the same pickle as Salman Rushdie? Maybe they could kill two PC birds with one stone and have the Cookie Monster eat the Mohammed Cookies. Edited January 31, 2008 by jefferiah Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
AngusThermopyle Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 Why don't the Jews react in an extreme manner to "Three Little Piggies" or for that matter some of the virulently anti-Jewish characatures emanating from Arab newspapers? Well I'd say thats probably because they tend not to be idiots the way some other specific groups do. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
kuzadd Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) And yet no one is overly afraid of the Christian reaction and the books get printed. Embassies are not burned, nuns don't get shot. Do you think Mr. Dawkins or JK Rowling are in the same pickle as Salman Rushdie? Maybe they could kill two PC birds with one stone and have the Cookie Monster eat the Mohammed Cookies. and obviously no one is REALLY overly afraid of a potential Muslim reaction. Or why bother doing such a provocative stunt? I will also take note that the publishing of Harry Potter/Richard Dawkins or the movie release of DaVinci code/ Golden Compass were not INTENDED to offend christians, as this stunt is INTENTIONALLY provocative,likely in hopes of a ratings boost or advertising rates increase, whatever. That said I will reiterate it is clear, there is no fear from a potential reaction, or this type of stunt would simply not be undertaken As I already said, hoping the bait will be recognized for what it is, and not taken. Edited January 31, 2008 by kuzadd Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
scribblet Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 Well I'd say thats probably because they tend not to be idiots the way some other specific groups do. Exactly.... nothing like a little riot, a homicide bombing or a beheading to get the adrenalin flowing Did it take place - any reactions yet? Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Rue Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) And yet no one is overly afraid of the Christian reaction.... If all Christians were like you Jeffriah I would agree with you I would not be afraid. Truth is there are nut cases claiming to represent all religions and they all in one sense make me vigilant. I am with Atherm on this one. Its just dumb and dumber. Its deliberately provocative and intended to incite anger and so anyone reacting with anger as well as these people intiating it are dumb and dumber. If someone wants to make Moses cookies and eat them or King David cookies and eat them, or Adam Sandler cookies and eat them, please go for it. While I can not speak on behalf of the gay community if you want to make a cookie of Tom Cruise and eat him I am sure they won't mind. I am not sure about the Scientologists though. Since my God is Halle Berry I don't want to make a cookie and eat her. Um no wait. Oh never mind. Edited February 1, 2008 by Rue Quote
Moxie Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 Why do those on the "right" feel the need to be so inflammatory?Because it stirs up the unthinking masses so well, who can then just react in a foolish manner! It manipulates the emotions oh so very well. why else.? certainly not to promote, dialogue, or educate what's it going to prove? That people who engage in this are morons, who have nothing really of interest to do or say, so they resort to inflammatory tactics. In other words, they make themselves look the fool, the backward cavemen .They make themselves look the unelightened , inferior persons they really are anyway. Kuzadd are you smoking pot again? Inflammatory surely you jest. You have been the worst offender I've ever met on the net for insulting Christians yet you expect society to bend over and kiss Radical Islamic ass to appease and pander. Do you know what you are? A hypocrite, a very big one. You'd crawl into bed with Radical and Political Islam because your hatred towards Christians has grown so large you can't think (not like you ever did)clearly. You miss are a prime example of WHO should be before the HRC and get her assed whipped and bankrupted for their beliefs. I'll eat Mo and Allah as I chose to, sad sacks like you have been the dominant voice long enough. The next time you type the word hate, bigot and asshole remember that's how I see you. Jesus wept, and that thang slept her way throught life. Don't sanction me she admited it. Quote Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy
Oleg Bach Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 Kuzadd are you smoking pot again? Inflammatory surely you jest. You have been the worst offender I've ever met on the net for insulting Christians yet you expect society to bend over and kiss Radical Islamic ass to appease and pander. Do you know what you are? A hypocrite, a very big one. You'd crawl into bed with Radical and Political Islam because your hatred towards Christians has grown so large you can't think (not like you ever did)clearly. You miss are a prime example of WHO should be before the HRC and get her assed whipped and bankrupted for their beliefs. I'll eat Mo and Allah as I chose to, sad sacks like you have been the dominant voice long enough. The next time you type the word hate, bigot and asshole remember that's how I see you. Jesus wept, and that thang slept her way throught life. Don't sanction me she admited it. All of todays Muslims are infidels - all of todays Christians are infidels - as are the Jews and so forth - absolutely none practice the religions are meant to be practiced - Muslims insult God infering he is weak and needs help - that he is not the almighty - the Christians formally practice anti-Christism - because they do the opposite of what Christ commanded - and the pesky Jews are still trying to find an angle on how to trick and corner God into submission - yep! all are suffering from infidelity - hence all are infidels. Quote
Borg Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 Query, will this "offend" certain identifiable people? Link here, excerpts below:Christian 'infidels' to eat 'Muhammad' Political TV hosts fed up with PC Islam will devour cookie with face of prophet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 24, 2008 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Joe Kovacs © 2008 WorldNetDaily.com A new, cutting-edge, political TV show will challenge Islam with biting humor tomorrow night, placing the face of the prophet Muhammad onto a cookie and then having it eaten on camera. "We're going to take a stand and say Muhammad's face is delicious," said Molotov Mitchell, the 28-year-old incendiary creator and host of "Flamethrower," a program described as a low-budget, gritty cross between the "The Daily Show," "The Colbert Report," and "The View" if Ann Coulter were the producer. "This is religious and culinary history in the making." The theme of this week's episode is "All Things Islam," as panelists take on the faith of Muslims in a no-holds-barred fashion. This provided the chuckle I needed today. Very funny Borg Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 If someone wants to make Moses cookies and eat them or King David cookies and eat them, or Adam Sandler cookies and eat them, please go for it. Hot Cross Buns? Mmmmmmmmm....already a happening thing for centuries. These days, you can buy toasters to place Jesus, the Pope, Virgin Mary et al on your morning toast. http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/holy-toast-...of-2/index.html --------------------------------------------------- Hot cross buns, Hot cross buns, one ha' penny, two ha' penny, hot cross buns. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kuzadd Posted February 3, 2008 Report Posted February 3, 2008 Kuzadd are you smoking pot again? Inflammatory surely you jest. You have been the worst offender I've ever met on the net for insulting Christians yet you expect society to bend over and kiss Radical Islamic ass to appease and pander. Do you know what you are? A hypocrite, a very big one. You'd crawl into bed with Radical and Political Islam because your hatred towards Christians has grown so large you can't think (not like you ever did)clearly. You miss are a prime example of WHO should be before the HRC and get her assed whipped and bankrupted for their beliefs. I'll eat Mo and Allah as I chose to, sad sacks like you have been the dominant voice long enough. The next time you type the word hate, bigot and asshole remember that's how I see you. Jesus wept, and that thang slept her way throught life. Don't sanction me she admited it. OMG. HILARIOUS!!!!!!! Hubby and I chuckled and chuckled!!!! Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
margrace Posted February 3, 2008 Report Posted February 3, 2008 Why don't the Jews react in an extreme manner to "Three Little Piggies" or for that matter some of the virulently anti-Jewish characatures emanating from Arab newspapers? For thousands of years jbg the Jews have had to keep a low profile, remember that they were accused of eating and sacrificing Christian babies and this was used to commit horror against them. Because the Christian religion uses the so called crucifiction to keep thier churches going there has always been a terrible anamonsity towards Jews. And I think you might find that even today it is not buried too deeply. Quote
jbg Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Posted February 3, 2008 Hot Cross Buns? Mmmmmmmmm....already a happening thing for centuries. These days, you can buy toasters to place Jesus, the Pope, Virgin Mary et al on your morning toast.http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/holy-toast-...of-2/index.html --------------------------------------------------- Hot cross buns, Hot cross buns, one ha' penny, two ha' penny, hot cross buns. Any "hot cross bun" riots? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Posted February 3, 2008 For thousands of years jbg the Jews have had to keep a low profile, remember that they were accused of eating and sacrificing Christian babies and this was used to commit horror against them. Because the Christian religion uses the so called crucifiction to keep thier churches going there has always been a terrible anamonsity towards Jews. And I think you might find that even today it is not buried too deeply.So true. But I repeat, why don't Jews riot over the very same things that Muslims riot over? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
charter.rights Posted February 3, 2008 Report Posted February 3, 2008 So true. But I repeat, why don't Jews riot over the very same things that Muslims riot over? Because Jews and Christians are part of the world power structure. Neither Jews or Christians need to defend against that power for freedom. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
jbg Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Posted February 3, 2008 Because Jews and Christians are part of the world power structure. Neither Jews or Christians need to defend against that power for freedom.How do cartoons create a need for Muslims to "defend" themselves by deadly riots, or detonating retarded people in markets? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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