Conservative attack ads

Bryan · May 16, 2009

And re-emphasized Harper's which is that he would rather attack than govern.

He's governing very well. We have the best government in the world right now.

waldo · May 16, 2009

A majority is not necessary, we can afford to go to the polls every month if need be.

clearly - what's another $300 Million here... or there. Hey now - what about that wascally fixed election date thingee?

face facts time buddy. That elusive Harper Conservative majority will never happen... Canadians have shown they do not trust Stephen Harper with a majority government. Your "slow and steady wins the race" jibberish just does not fit with the Harper mentality and demeanor - or the willingness of the Conservative party insiders to keep hanging in with a losing leader. The facade of a united right has been exposed... can a splintered CPC be far off?

facing the 2008 perfect storm opportunity where everything lined up for the Conservatives, Harper couldn't bring it home. The Harper Conservatives have been in a "slow and steady" downhill spiral ever since...

waldo · May 16, 2009

These ads will probably not play well in parts of Canada's sophisticated, expresso drinking three urban centres. But they weren't designed to work in these places.

whaaat! You mean those Harper Conservative attack ads are tailored for unsophisticated hickster types - oh my!

word on the street is that many of those expat arteeest types living in the USofA are a bit put off with these latest Harper Conservative attack ads that negatively label anyone living/working outside of Canada. Apparently, these proud Canadians are lining up to be included in alternate "definition ads". Harper should have learned by now... don't mess with the arteeests!

how will this "definition ad" play... where is it designed to work? :lol:

Stephen Harper: Just Leaving

Edited May 17, 2009 by waldo

waldo · May 16, 2009

smackdown! The small politics of Stephen Harper... "foundering and flaying.... flapping and failing"!

jdobbin · May 16, 2009

Big booms make for big busts. Slow increases make for a solid base you can count on. A majority is not necessary, we can afford to go to the polls every month if need be.
Brampton—Springdale, Vancouver South, Cumberland—Colchester, and Edmonton—Strathcona are certainly ripe for the taking.

I think you are overly optimistic about the making gains with this economy.

You might think Harper can go to the polls a few times but I expect he has one election left in him before his own party asks him to step aside.

jdobbin · May 16, 2009

He's governing very well. We have the best government in the world right now.

And it will be ever better when he is defeated.

Mr.Canada · May 16, 2009

And it will be ever better when he is defeated.

The accidental tourist will never be PM. He came back to Canada to become PM, he's an opportunist and cares nothing for Canada, only power and prestige that comes with being PM. As soon as he leaves politics he'll be on a plane back to the USA. Accidental tourist, nothing more.

jdobbin · May 16, 2009

The accidental tourist will never be PM. He came back to Canada to become PM, he's an opportunist and cares nothing for Canada, only power and prestige that comes with being PM. As soon as he leaves politics he'll be on a plane back to the USA. Accidental tourist, nothing more.

The accidental Albertan will never get a majority. He is a sociopath in that he would rather attack than govern. He is opportunists who cares nothing for Canada, only power and prestige that comes with being PM. As soon as he leaves politics, he'll be on a plane to work for FOX News. Accidental Albertan, nothing more.

Edited May 16, 2009 by jdobbin

noahbody · May 16, 2009

The accidental Albertan will never get a majority. He is a sociopath in that he would rather attack than govern. He is opportunists who cares nothing for Canada, only power and prestige that comes with being PM. As soon as he leaves politics, he be on a plane to work for FOX News. Accidental Albertan, nothing more.

... and if he was a Liberal, you'd want to make sweet love to him.

Mr.Canada · May 16, 2009

The well traveled but never at home Ignotieff will never beat out PM HArper. Where will the Liberals egt more seats from? They're going to lose seats in Toronto and Vancouver so unless they make more ridings in Regent Park or some other undesirable neighborhood, I don't see where they'll gain seats. I think the Liberal lobby is smoking the wacky tobaccy again. Light up another one.

Smallc · May 16, 2009

Where will the Liberals get more seats from?

Quebec, Ontario, BC, Manitoba, New Brunswick, etc.

Mr.Canada · May 16, 2009

Quebec, Ontario, BC, Manitoba, New Brunswick, etc.

Where in Ontario, Quebec and the Atlantic provinces? Which Tory or NDP riding's will fall?

Edited May 16, 2009 by Mr.Canada

Smallc · May 16, 2009

Where in Ontario?

Many places. There is no way that the Liberals are going to get the same dismal numbers in Ontario as they did in the 2008.

Shakeyhands · May 16, 2009

The well traveled but never at home Ignotieff will never beat out PM HArper. Where will the Liberals egt more seats from? They're going to lose seats in Toronto and Vancouver so unless they make more ridings in Regent Park or some other undesirable neighborhood, I don't see where they'll gain seats. I think the Liberal lobby is smoking the wacky tobaccy again. Light up another one.

Wow.

Mr.Canada · May 16, 2009

Wow.

They're going to lose seats in the 905. Ruby Dhallia's seat is gone as is Brampton west. Those seats we won by less then 1000 votes consider them Tory Blue.

Keepitsimple · May 16, 2009

The accidental Albertan will never get a majority. He is a sociopath in that he would rather attack than govern. He is opportunists who cares nothing for Canada, only power and prestige that comes with being PM. As soon as he leaves politics, he'll be on a plane to work for FOX News. Accidental Albertan, nothing more.

Dobbin. You're really losing it and I don't understand why....the Liberals have been doing quite well in the polls. You KNOW that Harper is not in it for the power. It's not in his genes.....if you read anything about the man, he is a reluctant leader....someone who stepped into the breach when there was a vacuum. A sociopath doesn't unite the Right. A sociopath doesn't command such loyalty from the troops over a period of 4 or 5 years. The man was born and raised in Toronto and lived in the West. He's a real Canadian. I'll admit that he's not everyone's cup of tea but when his leadership runs its course....as it does with every leader.....yopu'll find him back with his family. You used to have what I would call biased objectivity.....but now your posts are disappointingly like many other angry Liberals......get it together Dobbin.....you usually make a lot more sense.

Edited May 17, 2009 by Keepitsimple

Bryan · May 17, 2009

I think you are overly optimistic about the making gains with this economy.

ESPECIALLY with the amazing job they've done with the economy. We are doing better than anyone else in the world, and things are already improving.

Smallc · May 17, 2009

ESPECIALLY with the amazing job they've done with the economy. We are doing better than anyone else in the world, and things are already improving.

Pfft, and of course, that had nothing to do with the 13 years of Liberal management that we had before the Conservatives.

jdobbin · May 17, 2009

ESPECIALLY with the amazing job they've done with the economy. We are doing better than anyone else in the world, and things are already improving.

Amazing. I guess that is why the Tories are in majority strength right now and about to hammer the Liberals in submission.

jdobbin · May 17, 2009

Where will the Liberals egt more seats from?

According to the polls the gains are likely in Ontario, Quebec and B.C. But then I guess the pollsters are all Liberals, right?

jdobbin · May 17, 2009

It's not in his genes.....if you read anything about the man, he is a reluctant leader....someone who stepped into the breach when there was a vacuum.

I don't believe that for a moment. Harper created the breach and stepped back in when he was able to control the party in a complete grip.

A sociopath doesn't unite the Right. A sociopath doesn't command such loyalty from the troops over a period of 4 or 5 years.

Does he have loyalty or does he command by fear? Seems to me that a certain Nova Scotia MP found out the hard way.

The man was born and raised in Toronto and lived in the West. He's a real Canadian. I'll admit that he's not everyone's cup of tea but when his leadership runs its course....as it does with every leader.....yopu'll find him back with his family. You used to have what I would call biased objectivity.....but now your posts are disappointingly like many other angry Liberals......get it together Dobbin.....you usually make a lot more sense.

I don't disagree he'll be with his family. I don't know if he will be in Canada.

Some on the right have questioned whether he is a real Albertan. As the deficit grows, I expect that grumbling will grow louder.

Bryan · May 17, 2009

According to the polls the gains are likely in Ontario, Quebec and B.C. But then I guess the pollsters are all Liberals, right?

Polls predicted those gains last election too, how did that pan out?

jdobbin · May 17, 2009

Polls predicted those gains last election too, how did that pan out?

You think there were polls that predicted a Liberal victory? Which ones were those?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polli..._election,_2008

I can't think of any that even predicted gains.

Edited May 17, 2009 by jdobbin

waldo · May 17, 2009

oh my! Time to regroup...
Conservative attack ads fundamentally flawed

These ads will probably not play well in parts of Canada's sophisticated, expresso drinking three urban centres. But they weren't designed to work in these places.

So, am I surprised that an opinion writer for the Toronto G&M criticizes these attack ads, or even argues that that the ads are misdirected? No.

This article merely reminds me how some opinion writers are out of touch with the rest of the country.

if a G&M op-ed doesn't do it for you... how about a full-on G&M editorial!

Conservative Attack Ads: "Missing the Mark"

But it is disheartening that, after extensive research into public attitudes toward Mr. Ignatieff, their strategists have concluded that it is his intellectualism and his worldliness that make him vulnerable. If Canadians reject the Liberal Leader, it should be for other reasons.

waldo · May 17, 2009

oh August1991... here - please dismiss another G&M op-ed... are we seeing a pattern yet? :lol:

Tories attack: bad manners, bad politics

The Harperites are back at what they do best, or - let me try to be more precise - back at what it seems they really like most to be doing. Attacking the other guys' leader. There are a lot of cards in the political deck, but the attack card seems to be the one that most fits with the Conservatives under Mr. Harper.

They are not good at reaching out. They are not good at broadening the tent. They are not good at getting beyond the bristling, mean way they view everyone who is an opponent.

There is an unacknowledged element in all attack ads. They say as much about those who design those ads, as about their ostensible target. These ads may well remind Canadians of something they already know - that Mr. Ignatieff was a long while before he chose, or deigned, to become a full Canadian. But they will also remind Canadians of something they know just as well, and do not like in the main: that the Harper Conservatives are a brittle, humourless and by-default-mean congregation.

The ads, I predict, will hurt the Conservatives, far more than they will trim the rising Ignatieff Liberals.