GostHacked

Anyone care to explain what this means exactly? Top cultural icon?

Hey Greg and Co. I was hoping you would consider a new main topic thread for the main page. Literature. Stuff we read, books that are about out political landscape. Authors who tell us their views of the landscape. Support/dismiss and the discussion about stuff we read. I am wanting to know what kind of support for this new topic/thread idea I could muster. Thanks !!

I most definitely do not support Canada playing a role in Afghanistan if that role is to prrepare the ground for further U.S. aggression in the region (not that I think the United States the ability or stomach to carry out and Iraq-style intervention against Iran). They cannot go after Iran just yet, but for the US's plan of total economic and military superiority/domination over the Middle East, Iran must fall. I beg all of you to open your history books, get online , go to the library, learn and understand the Middle East and how long wars have been going on there. Also pay real close attention to the Iran-Iraq war during the 80s. Start there my friends. And did anyone look up and find out what Eisenhower said on his final speech as President of the United States?

Argus, I do not care where you got that from or if you wrote it yourself. A chill went down my spine in every paragraph. Reminding me of my childhood. That. Was. Good. To. Read. PERIOD. To the rest of you haters who just want to bash on the 'plagurism' and not read and understand the message. How bad was your childhood to miss the message and hate the messenger? I remember going to the Pop Shoppe with my parents and my sister every week, and I would get really territorial on the root beer. NO ONE touches my root beer. I remeber those winter nights in the small hills in behind our houses where we took the sleds/taboggans/gt snow racers at night during cloud over to reflect the light back down from the city. I remember cramming as many as we could on ONE SINGLE TABOGGAN and seeing if we could all make it down together. I remember summer road hockey, hide and seek, and impomptu baseball matches. I remember me and my sister running down the camp road together screaming and yelling and just having fun, and exploring nature. Being in awe of so many things. I remeber thinking, who the hell would want to live without snow. I remember an RV with a ski rack on the back with Florida plates pulling over and asking me why there is no snow and asking where the nearest ski hill is. It was July. I remember the water fights we used to have that got the whole neighbourhood involved. I remember the old grumpy guy down the street calling the cops on us. I remember the cops wanting to rip the uniforms off and join us in a lazy hazy summer afternoon care free fun. I remeber Cape Breton Island and the awe of the pure beauty of the national park. I remember PEI, Anne of Green Gables and potatoes and jelly fish. I remember out west riding a farm tractor with my uncle in Saskatchewan, and remeber being really thirsty. I remember Prism, Rush, Brian Adams, Toronto, Honeymoon Suite. I can go on and on and on.... I remember discovering as a young kid for the first time that Canada is home and is very special to me. And that the Maple Leaf on that flag just looks and feels like home. Je me souvien. And thanks to Argus, I remember well.

This is my line of thinking. I will support the troops, but I will not tolerate them dying for no reason. This is the same rhetoric we find common south of the 49th. Debate is healthy. If we cannot debate and discuss this, then democracy has failed us all. Dictators tell us what, and what not to do. (to harsh?) Martin should have given us a clear strategy as well. I cannot blame Harper for this totaly, but now that he is PM, it is on his shoulders now. What you said here is close to the same thing me and my boss were talking about today. We need to have a plan, a clear strategy. If there are no goals set, then we are wondering aimlessy around trying to do patch work here and there. This also leaves the troops wondering why they are still there. I care enough about our troops to say this. Being a military soldier takes, guts, courage, stamina, just a different type of human. If I were to put them in harms way, I better have a damn good reason for them being there. No goals? No plan? No strategy? NO TROOPS. Example, you cannot go to the bank and say you need money for a business venture. They ask if you have a business plan. You say no. They don't give you money. No plan/goals/strategy in Afghanistan? I cannot support wasting human lives. This by no way means that I do not support our troops. Also wtf is the RCMP doing in Afghanistan? They are NOT military. They really have no jurisdiciton there in any way shape or form. That is why we have an ARMY. Why are they there? This is typical Canadian fare. wake up. what the west needs is more troops in the middle east. period. option b? USA, CANADA, BRITAIN et al pulls out and militant islam continues to fester. we a go back to sleep, IRAN develops nukes while we pretent that peace is inevitable.... HOW MANY MORE? Next you are going to say I hate freedom. I am either with YOU or the terrorists. Tell me what the plan is, give me some outlines, give me a reason to support you. Give me solid evidence as to why I should support the wars in the Middle East. I supported the war in Afghanistan at the start. But after finding out the truth about it all, and looking back in my life and realizing what has transpired there, I can no longer support sacraficing our own men and women for a cause that is no longer just, no longer valid, and no longer has a meaning. I really get F'N tired of all the rhetoric. Tired. Tired. Tired. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Educate me on it. Give me the plan, the right plan. Somehow people are really not listening to something Dwight Eisenhower said in his farewall speech as he left the office of the President of the United States. Oh you do not know what he said? I will leave this in your hands to find out. Get back to me on that one ok?

This is my line of thinking. I will support the troops, but I will not tolerate them dying for no reason. This is the same rhetoric we find common south of the 49th. Debate is healthy. If we cannot debate and discuss this, then democracy has failed us all. Dictators tell us what, and what not to do. (to harsh?) Martin should have given us a clear strategy as well. I cannot blame Harper for this totaly, but now that he is PM, it is on his shoulders now. What you said here is close to the same thing me and my boss were talking about today. We need to have a plan, a clear strategy. If there are no goals set, then we are wondering aimlessy around trying to do patch work here and there. This also leaves the troops wondering why they are still there. I care enough about our troops to say this. Being a military soldier takes, guts, courage, stamina, just a different type of human. If I were to put them in harms way, I better have a damn good reason for them being there. No goals? No plan? No strategy? NO TROOPS. Example, you cannot go to the bank and say you need money for a business venture. They ask if you have a business plan. You say no. They don't give you money. No plan/goals/strategy in Afghanistan? I cannot support wasting human lives. This by no way means that I do not support our troops. Also wtf is the RCMP doing in Afghanistan? They are NOT military. They really have no jurisdiciton there in any way shape or form. That is why we have an ARMY. Why are they there?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/stor...5674663,00.html Looks like if the civil war happens, Rummy may not be able to do anything about it Burnsy, burnsy, burnsy. But so you won't jump down my throat ect. He is a positive note

Alot of the same rhetoric that preceeded the Iraq invasion. I told you last year that this was gonna happen. I bet I can find a quote I made regarding that. Trying to find my quote, or I might have said it on another forum. Ugh don't want to search through 200 posts to find it ... This is predicted. Iran is next. And something will happen within the next 10 days

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...cs/14059779.htm See this is how cold the government is. But it seems a hypocritical statement considering the rest of the article. Whoa what? DHS will now get in the bed with the religious right? How will this come into play? Change for sure. But for the better? http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1706834 And no I am not picking and choosing these lines, the whole article clearly shows how Bush is trying to bring the religion back to politics. This cannot be supported. I also think we should start taxing the church and religious based organizations. They are competeing with each other, that to me indicates they are in business. The business of your faith and soul. They are out to make a profit of some kind, it might not me monetary, but they are making a profit. Time to revoke their non-profit organizational status. Either that or burn down some more churches for the fun of it.

uhm oook(confused here), so what was untrue with GostHacked post then? You just agreed with him and yet you said "Most of what you said is untrue." 2 posts earlier ! I was just trying to prove that what he said was true. Get off the horse buddy. That is the way he rolls up in this bitch. And that CBS link you gave is fantastic! Even the old evil watching all seeing eye of the CBS is saying what we already know. The funny thing is, I remember when this was all happening in the 80s. I listened to the news regularly. Eventhough I was just a kid during the 80s, I recall so much of the US getting involved in Iraq. Burnsy might not be old enough to remeber even recent history. lost&outofcontrol, I think I am gonna make a trip to the library, pull out some old newspapers nd check that out. I am glad I am in Canada, so I am not privy to the new Patriot Act and NSA spying. I should scan those articles then post them somewhere, I would be violating copyright laws, but man would it be worth it to prove to Monty and Co that they are blind as bats without ears. Oh please do. I'm always up for a larf. Nothing more entertaining than another conspiracy tale from the frothing moonbats. Challenge accepted.

This is unprecidented here folks. I am actually going to agree with Monty on this one. I posted a video in a starter thread about this. Check it out.

You got me there, just about had milk out the damn nose. el oh f'n el

Oh my God, head for the hills!!! Ah, there is the reason the left doesn't like it, efficiency. Gravy!!! If you wish to be like this in the future, please refrain from replying to my thread. That is all.

http://temagami.carleton.ca/jmc/cnews/13022004/n1.shtml http://www.canadiandemocraticmovement.ca/d...article352.html How many of you knew this? I just found about this today. I feel really damn stupid for not paying attention to this kind of thing. How did this affect us? Is Lockheed Martin still in charge of doing the census? I have been trying to find more up to date information on this but I am having a hard time.

So I should not eat any ice cream from burger king? Not that the ice cream is the greatest in any way shape or form... this is total retardedness.

uhm oook(confused here), so what was untrue with GostHacked post then? You just agreed with him and yet you said "Most of what you said is untrue." 2 posts earlier ! I was just trying to prove that what he said was true. Get off the horse buddy. That is the way he rolls up in this bitch. And that CBS link you gave is fantastic! Even the old evil watching all seeing eye of the CBS is saying what we already know. The funny thing is, I remember when this was all happening in the 80s. I listened to the news regularly. Eventhough I was just a kid during the 80s, I recall so much of the US getting involved in Iraq. Burnsy might not be old enough to remeber even recent history. lost&outofcontrol, I think I am gonna make a trip to the library, pull out some old newspapers nd check that out. I am glad I am in Canada, so I am not privy to the new Patriot Act and NSA spying. I should scan those articles then post them somewhere, I would be violating copyright laws, but man would it be worth it to prove to Monty and Co that they are blind as bats without ears.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/20...hats060307.html Just more retardedness really. No hard hat? No entry. Allowing them to wear the turbans might be fine if they waive all rights to sue on the job site for not wearing the regulated saftey equipment meant to keed your head in one piece. Now if they can prove the turban does just that.. then we might be ok. This is not discrimination, this is about job saftey #1. You all can read the sign 'HARD HATS AND SAFTEY GEAR REQUIRED FOR ENRTY TO THE FACILITY' This is not hard to understand.

You clearly don't understand the oil argument. It's not about buying oil. It's about controlling the access to it. If you said you suspected that was one of many factors in the Bush administration's decision, I might agree with you. It is not in the USA's interest--especially after 9-11--to have an oil-rich psychopath that has the potential to hurt the US economy--and commit terror, get WMD, and get nukes. Indeed, we see from the translation of those tapes that Saddam was actively trying to get a nuke program going as recently as 2000. A guy that used chemical weapons during war, and even on his own citizens; a man who attacked 4 countries (Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Israel); a man that was costing the US hundreds of billions of dollars by having US troops in the ME to "contain" Saddam for 12 years; a man who ignored the ceasefire he signed in 1991; for the UN lovers, he ignored 16 Chapter VII (binding) UN Resolutions; a man who repeatedly shot at US (and UK) aircraft over the two No Fly Zones; a man who paid people to commit acts of terror; a man that harbored numerous sorts of terrorists in Iraq, and a man who tried to assassinate a US president. Yeah, a sworn enemy--a madman who controls such a valuable resource to the US could potentially cripple or severely hurt the US economy. Geopolitics. All countries engage in it. Come on. Don't do this to yourself Burnsy. Saddam and even Osama were held in high regards with the US administration during the 80s. The US even gave Saddam the chemicals to gas his own citizens. The US funded and armed the Taleban feat. OBL, to help get the Soviets out of Afghanistan. Hypocracy abound here. Deal with the despots when it is convenient. Don't do this to yourself.

http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_...1050wmv&ak=null This lady is bang on with every point she makes. And even makes more of a point when the host of the show asks her if she is a heritic. Heretic? Woah that is some old language. But check this out Leafers.

You clearly don't understand the oil argument. It's not about buying oil. It's about controlling the access to it. CORRECT GOOD SIR !!! One line I love is to 'reduce dependancy on foreign oil'. This is true at this point since the US controls Iraq and what goes in and out. Essentially the US now owns the Iraqi oil. Once Iraq is divided up into the 3 sections, for each group, the US will just limit themselves to the area where the oil fields are. Also, March 20th will be very very interesting.

They know the money won't help them, but the money WILL help their families.

We should really revisit Fallujah. I would really like to see what that place is like. I hear reports that it is basicly deserted after the US assault .. Other places that need revisiting. Basra Tikrit Sadr City (hahah) We need reporters roaming those streets, giving us a non biased view. Just show us the aftermath of the invasion, this has not been done. I want to see stuff from ALL parts if Iraq This is what I want to see. Untill reporters have full free unbiased unfiltered access to the real Iraq, we won't know the truth either way.

I think this poll is quite retarded imho.

What would you know about things Canadian? You're not Canadian. Ever check my profile? That would have proved you wrong in one single second. He's implying that native canadians were here first and they didn't treat you with the same, "follow our culture or get the f*** out," theory you claim the Sikh's should follow. I was born and raised here in this country we call Canada. I think that makes me a native of this place. Regardless of my ethnic background, but I really have no idea what he is implying. And that is the thing, follow or get the f**k out. If you do not like our rules/ways of life, then Canada is NOT for you then. Simple as that. I am asking them to respect a Canadian tradition/icon/establishment. Wear the hat. Continue if you must, but this if my final stance on it.

What would you know about things Canadian? You're not Canadian. Ever check my profile? That would have proved you wrong in one single second.