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Your government has more checks and balances than just one guy...there are thousands of people providing advice and counseling before any decision is made.... NO ONE was at war with Afghanistan....there was a conflict there , US military forces were engaged with terrorist forces but no war or declaration of war....Just like no war declaration of war for the Korean conflict... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States
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He has a metric ton of Sh*t on his plate, so much that he may be paralyzed on where to start, he is a going to have to start something even if it is a small chunk, right now he is putting out small fires, and it seems to be distracting him, fro the big picture....i do like his announcement on bail reform and delaying the EV program....but we need more.
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IS the US at war with houtis in Yemen ? The US declared them to be terrorist organization, long ago... and US military forces have been bombing the crap out of them....with bombs and missiles.....I am having difficulties finding the difference between killing any terrorist group by any means...You say drug dealers are not terrorist, and yet, some how your president and my Prime Minister declared 7 drug cartels terrorist groups...despite all the legal advice they would have needed to take before such a declaration... I've given you many examples of US military forces being used to kill foreign terrorist on foreign soil, and yet your finding it hard to imagine your country has been doing this for decades...the fact that my country has being doing it since the war on terror started....along with most western nations....plenty of examples on goggle...all of them have been toughly vetted, by legal departments, inter national law, vetted through defense department, intel etc... all of this and much more happens before the military get the green lite to target someone or something.... this just does happen with a phone call from trump wanting to blow something up....
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You said the US was at war with Afghanistan which they were not....no one in that coalition declared war.....So why would the US have to declare war on Venezuela before taking action on terrorist....your statement not mine... Thing about talking is it is cheap, everyone does it, if they had any proof they would have charged him by now... I think all politics is insane, and the left has more than it's share of crazies as well, your saying that everyone is afraid of what Mega might do if they bring up charges.... I don't believe that at all, and if it is true then Trump, is free to do what ever he wants, why hasn't he....
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And we could ask about the other 12 Terrorist groups that US forces attacked trying to get at Osama, what was their crimes, other than being terrorist groups... YA, because both had been authorized by the president of the US...you make the assumption that the president has not checked though his staff to see if this could be done, you also assume the US military did not double check to make sure this was legal.... Are you saying his staff is incompetent and if they were, why has nobody spoke up and demanded some kind of action, or laid charges....i know a lot of crickets here... we will see in a couple of weeks when the next boat gets blown up....or he is arrested...
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And yet it can be done....not many of our Countries leaders have had any of those career highlights to be honest... As did a lot of Canadians, Carney problem is he is slow to act, i'm not sure if that's because he is having problems navigating politics or in reality getting anything done in this country is impossibly slow....And i truly hope he can get something going before Canadians lose patients right now Canada needs something to correct Justin's mistakes.
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You asked for examples of US military forces being used to kill terrorist i gave you several.... What difference does it make how they died, be it bullets from SF guys or a bomb dropped or missle fired the result is the same They US has killed terrorist with out any court documents or permissions those permission come for the President...including those from the democratic party... Remember Capt Phillps, Naval seals killed all his terrorist in inter national waters , and nobody blinked an eye..
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Not one country involved in the Afghanistan conflict had declared war...Go figure... Neither was the US or any of the allied involved in Afghanistan, how do you explain that...not even sure how that relates to Venezuela anyways it happened in inter national waters...so it was not directed at any nation, but rather known terrorists... Inter national law has nothing to do with it...This is all about national policy, and national security...and if it was illegal as you say it is , why is nobody doing anything about it...instead there is radio silence in America...and globally... They do have credibility, has Canada has followed suit in declared 7 Cartels organizations as terrorist.... They do met most criteria...read the definition again... Last year alone 108,000 US citizens died of drug over doses...to put that into context just over 3000 US Citizens dies in the twin towers and the US mobilized its military and pounded Afghanistan like a cheap hooker....with 108,000 citizens dead US should be gearing up for war.... Again your evidence does not reflect reality, Is trump being charged for declaring them terrorist....has anyone talked about charging him, Has anyone questioned why Canada followed suit and declared 7 cartels Terrorist...which points to one direction Trumps declaration must have legal standing...despite your so call evidence....that has not source document...
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Im not going to have this conversation with you....do some research what do you think our JTF guys do all day...they kill bad guys in many different countries, countries we are not at war with, countries that have governments of their own...who do you think authorizes those killings , i can tell you it is much higher than DND.... The facts are they were terrorist, as the US president declared them to be any member working for the cartels are Terrorists... Canada has labeled some of the Cartel networks as terrorist, yes your Mark Carney did that early in his negotiations with trump in regards to the border... My lack of respect for the law....first they are not my laws, i had nothing to do with creating them....second, do some research before flapping your gums and accusing me of something obviously you don't know nothing about...Most western nations use their SF units to kill terrorist, for the last couple of decades, don't tell me you cant find one example...Who kill Osama bin ladin, was he declared a terrorist....yes he was, did he have his day in court, who authorized that killing...the US president did....Do you really think trump is going to jail for this....do you think he is the first President to order a military strike on terrorist...how many times did the US media release footage of the US presidents and staff watching in real time operations like killing of terrorist... check out 5.44 and tell me there is no war on terror, "WE will come after you and find you" https://www.npr.org/2022/08/05/1115413454/biden-trump-obama-speeches-terrorist-leaders https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/achievement/chap1-nrn.html Here is one about our own JTF, do some research on the guy that made that shot, tell me killing terrorist is not legal, because this guy killed a lot of them...Just because you don't see much of this in the media does not mean it does not happen...PS that guy has recorded over 200 kills welcome to the war on terror....Yes this guy served in OUR military, and he is not alone there are hundreds of soldiers just like him that have put an end to terrorist with out a court document, but rather a mission authorized by the highest level of government... https://sofrep.com/news/sofrep-exclusive-inside-story-canadas-jtf2-record-breaking-sniper-kill/
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Osama bin ladin...how did he end up dead....who killed him and who authorized that mission, he was Americas most wanted terrorist for a long time, wanted dead or alive...the list is endless... No they don't, but your president declared them terrorist which open up a whole new bag of options to target these guys... your an American FFS do some of your own research...American SF forces have been killing terrorist for decades now...are you suggesting they were wrong...
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Are you saying that NO US president has ordered the deaths of terrorist, what happens to Osama bin laden...did he have a court date.... Yes they are , however it has already been discussed that cartels were now classified as terrorist groups , making them legitimate targets...Do you really think your military would not have researched the targets before engaging...i mean come on... Your right i don't know trump, buy don't think for one second he is the first President to have ordered the killing of terrorist... The US is involved in the war on terror, these guys are terrorist....you don't have to be at war to kill terrorist...why is that so hard to acknowledge...the US is not the only country that does this...
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Just a question , how much business and practical experience did Justin have, he must have had something on the go he did get 3 terms in office...So really how much experience do you need...one can also say that Carney lacks the political experience while in office, and it shows when he tries to get anything done at speed....but i thought this is why we have public service employees heading up each department, to hold that experience and knowledge that all politicians need...
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The above happen in 2022, not 1992 so i guess it is prevalent in Iran and Afghanistan, but my source also list many other countries that still have these laws on their books. And you did say Muslim countries which Iran , Afghanistan and the rest of the countries in my source are...perhaps you should have out in a exclusion clause.
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I really hope so....before it is to late...
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Apparently neither are you an expert in US law, illegal or not your president order this operation, and the military carried it out.... Some one must have evidence of some sort, US military just does not blow a boat up without any reason....your jumping to conclusions with out any facts to back up your claim... Your government has been taking out Terrorist all around the globe, in fact most western nations have been helping in the war on terror which still goes on today...these operation all have been authorized by your presidents...going back decades....WTF do you think your SPEC OPs groups do all day hand out teddy bears and blankets....If it is not written into your laws, then where does the authority come from..... directly from your president...
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Terrorist are not criminals to be clear, And have you heard of the war on terror... Who do you think authorized the military to do these operations...Military does nothing unless it is ordered to do so.... Part of the oath for the military is to defend against enemies of the state foreign or domestic, here in Canada our government can authorized our military to be used against Canadians, and our history has many examples. No in this case it was used to hunt down and kill known members of a terrorist group....this is not something new the government has been doing this for decades now....you just don't hear about it in the media very often...
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11 terrorist are now dead, and your screaming about inter national treaties and laws...The war on terror is going on 15 years now, militaries from around the globe kill terrorist every day, what do you think JTF does....just because you don't hear about these operations does not mean they don't happen....do some research or something before chirping about treaties and the law...
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This is a military operation on a declared terrorist organization it has nothing to do with justice but rather national security....Your president authorized it he does not need any permissions from any courts or judges, I would have thought being a American you would have known that...This happens around the world every day, just does not receive the attention this incident did.
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They the drug cartels have been designated as a terrorist organization by the US government, you don't need a judge for authority to kill terrorist, The US president authorized this mission...He has the power to authorize any and all military operations...As does Carney Yes , all governments do, we did it in Afghanistan all the time,
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plenty of Muslim countries practice stoning as punishment for many different crimes... https://theweek.com/news/crime/957354/the-countries-where-men-women-can-be-stoned-to-death
