Army Guy

We are biding our time, and it will come and lefty's heads will start popping across the country when that happens...and conservative will have their day in the sun... DId i already say Einstein was a great man, but his opinion back then has no bearing on todays issue...today Israel is under siege by the globe and the Palestinian propaganda machine, and most Canadians like you do not have the intelligence to know your being played by terrorists....And as long as Israel has the backing of the US, the rest of the global opinion is moot....including your....and our PM opinion , all moot...means nothing....and once Conservatives take back the reins of power that will include Canada as a Israelis allied. I did not deny anything you said , what i said is his opinion and your opinion do not matter in the grands scheme of things... Stop being a ****....

Why would we need a sub with land attack options, our frigates already have that capability. The air defense ability comes in handy when being hunted by either fix wing or rotary wing anti sub aircraft...Not a navy guy but i'm sure if your being hunted it would be a nice option... Most Subs can have torpedoes loaded at sea via a sub tender...I not sure if Canada even has one of those ....and while 12 torps does not sound like a lot....most ships only need one to sink it, exception is a carrier...Stealth would be a much better investment can't sink it if you cant find it....in my opinion maybe some navy guy on here can correct me...

DO you think the military made that list....All the military did was give a spec sheet or what they were looking for...Some civilian sent those specs out globally and gathered up those competitors...Politicians will get to pick who wins whether or not that company product meets all the specs or not...I could give you dozens of examples of purchases that have been made that did not meet all the specs and yet was chosen over more qualified bids...LSVW comes to mind right off the top... Hopefully they are built in Korea, on time , and built right.......Canada has NO experience building subs, building in Canada always cost 10 times as much as their bid is, just look at Irving's bid for frigates, Sh1t Canada can't even repair subs the right way....... 22 Bil for 3 boats, UK built Aircraft carriers for those prices...here in Canada built in Canada means the pigs will feed god...

Like i said you jumped on the bang wagon, knowing nothing about the topic, you might have done a quick google seach on your favorite left leaning sites and poof came up with your opinion...which is based on anything on the right can't be good, and you refuse to understand another point or opinion....sounds like your on track for being a leftist....That's alright once again you do you, you've made up your mind already. Any thing you introduced in your original post on this topic was garbage...and the site you introduced had nothing to do with our conversation, so the right is more prone to violence....WTF does that mean in this context, that some how the left owes the right a few more deaths...what is you point here ? Yes , the left is good at pointing fingers, in fact i think it is a liberal pastime it is never their fault regardless...Just a reminder the liberal party has been in charge of this great nation for the last 10 years or more....They are the ones you can lay all this divisiveness on, they made policy, and all the decisions to divide us . PP was a voice in Parliament who's power were extremely limited.. After this conversation and those in the past with the left side of the spectrum, I've learned that regardless of any conversation any side may have it will end with the same results....nothing will ever get done, Carney has had some brilliant ideas about uniting the country by making us an energy power house...already the cracks in this plan are showing all traced down to we can not get along or compromise on any issue... It starts with excepting the truth, the left policies over the last 10 plus years have done nothing in advancing anything...your free to bring up anything or one piece of liberal policy or platform that had pushed our nation forward...You can't even admit it was liberal policies that have broken almost every federal department, that would require honesty, and that's not in the liberal code.. best of luck in the future...

The guy that shot Charlie was not a republican, he was a Democrat with a trans boy friend that was also democrat, who was on democrat web sites talking to other leftist and instead of seeking mental health he took to arming himself and taking another mans life...But as usual you came up short on your research...

I think he is calling you a ****...but on the verge of being both a **** and a$$hole

Yes your actions, your opinions about a man you know nothing about except what a few lines that have been printed by media companies trying to make a buck that reach liberal minded people...How you even watched any of his stuff ? That's not what i was trying to say....your using your data you presented to some how try and justify this killing by saying "well the right has killed more than the left" why would you even introduce such garbage, information when it has nothing to do with the topic we are discussing...unless you think the left is free to kill until the numbers are equal...Let me be clear here ANY killing by any side is wrong....be it on the left or right side... Yes his parent were republican, and yes he was a democrat, and a well known leftist, maybe you need to do some more reading...all of that is already been released in the media...His boy friend was a democrat, he posted on leftist media sites regularly...so he know of plenty of leftist... Canadian politics is as divisive as ever, go on any political forum and try and have a normal discussion on any topic...and see how long it takes for people to resort to name calling, or yelling and screaming, here on this forum I've seen pages upon pages filled with nothing more than trash talking as if we were in kindergarten, all of that disguised as discourse...then look at our own parliament and how they act and what is consider working for the benefit of the country... it's like here on this forum pages upon pages of nothing but insults and one huge waste of time... This nation is so divided it is imposable to get anything done without a massive pot of money to line everyone pockets...Nobody gives a rats a$$ about the nation, just themselves and maybe their group... Canada is broken and will be broken until we can learn to sit down and have a normal discussion that will unite us... Everyone that wants to attend can attend, there is no restrictions on anyone or any topic that you want to discuss...How could a man that is racist have a black following, or hold events like the black leadership submit...why do racist do that...the answer is they don't... Below are just a small sample of interviews he has had, point out where he is racist, transphobic, or against immigrants there are literal thousands of these videos on the net , find something that supports your accusations. Here is a black women with lots of women in the crowd behind her... Interviews with trans genders.....and immigrates....

Maybe if you took a moment and took stock of what you have right now, you'd find that the US of A is one of the greatest country on the planet...Millions are trying to get there and live the American dream, everyday and all you've done is b!tched about it.. I would gladly switch places with you...as would millions of other Canadians who are tired of what the left is doing to our nation...

You do you....I can't get around my bias...look at you go....I don't think his name is being dragged through the mud....I both you and i know that's exactly what you've done....at least step up an admit that ...Like i said the reason you justify your actions is YOU presented data showing the extreme right is more violent than the left...Ya so i guess it's game on, it is all justified.......i should have asked how many more does the left have to kill to catch up.... I does not correlate, My statement was there has been enough killing and without discussion ton a mass scale here here will be more killing... Leftist are not liberal or NDPer they are the radical left...Nothing any side says or does is going to change that...I thought we were all Canadians but i guess i was wrong, we are back to political separation....maybe we could get that printed on our passports...you know just for identification purposes...Here i spell it out for you...Canadians need to start talking to the rest of the thousands of groups we have been divided into...and some how "compromise" on who or what we should be and once again become Canadian and not some group you think your ideals fit into...

So there is a price to be paid for discussions.....what price do you pay for the trash you post.... Is it that bad in the USA that you have to take risks just to have simple discussions...? Kirk had the powers to stop a relationship in a state he was not even from...maybe he was just a very angry man that could not bear the voices in his head...maybe what he needed was a mental health expert sort out his life... Charlie did take precautions, i think it is sad that some one can't have conversations with people who disagree with you without fearing for your life...it's sad that he thought this was his only recourse, it's sad that he threw his life away, including his current relationship, its sad his family did not see this coming...a lot of sad things happening here...

SO what is the left really that soft that you can't even discuss those subjects without your heads popping off...What makes these topics off limits....and who decided that.....and what is the punishment for crossing the line...Death....punch in the face, kick to the balls. what is fair punishment for making a lefty pop their head off... He has produced hundreds of hours of content, and sparked discussions with all walks of life, No one was forced to come to his events....but the left could not help themselves, and they came in droves, all wanting to prove they were smarter than some high school educated man....some say Charlie ambushed them, with topics unknown to them, but that's not true they came and they brought with them the topic they wanted to discuss.. or they stepped into an already discussion on their own accord....In all of that content i 've not heard once be disrespectful, Racist, misogynistic....and while I'm not familiar with all his content ...what has been said by the entire left spectrum is he is all of the above...

That was not the question was it.... The US is just as fractured as Canada is at the moment,

I have not come across that, your sources are from media sources that are doing the same thing your trying to do, drag his name in the dirt...I have also said i do not agree with all his beliefs, but i have more in common with him than say the liberal side of the political spectrum...I have watched hundreds of Charlie videos and have never seen anything in regards to being misogynist or racist.... Yes i find it slightly offensive that every leftist has said the same thing, i don't think he should have been killed, but will continue to slander the man, or celebrate his death...to me that's disrespectful. The leftists are radical, period end of story...So what your implying is, that because there is violence from the right it is OK to have violence on the left , even ...steven ....Are you implying that i agree that there is an eye for an eye thing for political violence...... In the end, We are all Canadians or Americans or what ever, there is enough evil out there that we don't need to take it out on each other....This should be a red flag for everyone, this is how divided our nation has become....we wonder why we can not get anything done in this nation, how can we , we are so divided we Can't even have a simple conversation.... As mentioned in another post there is NO middle ground , there is NO compromise....there is your side , my side everyone side...there is no ONE nation of Canada, there are thousands of competing interests that are tearing this nation apart.. And no this Can not be about measuring which side is right or wrong which side has done the most violence. This is about condoning this violence we have seen here with Charlie.... regardless of what political or group you hang your hat....Shooting someone because you don't like his or her words is F##ked up...And this guy is going to pay in a big way for his sins... Look i was a soldier for 34 years, been to most of the worlds sh1t holes I've seen violence that no one should ever see, I've seen how evil man can be.... So no i do not condone this type of violence...regardless of political affiliation, nor have a dragged a dead mans name in the mud because of what words he has spoken...

Here is another example of the left and how their thinking works...This guy works for Microsoft....he heads their Diversity, equity and inclusion department...He sends out messages celebrating Charlies death, and has a hard time wondering why he was fired...I don't know if i worked in the diversity, equity, and inclusion department you would think he would have a solid back ground on those topics...and celebrating anyone death online platforms would be wrong thing to do... Anyways i hope one day he gets it, and wakes up to reality...he is just another face of the left...

Yes, because left wing organization that promote violence or support that are good right, if you don't fall into those organizations why worry.... So there is NO left wing organization that promote violence or fund it , is that what your message is...

So tell me which of all these examples are not true, that anyone could not find a source that underlines that comment...Are true comments actually racist nowadays, ...or have your source media cherry picked some comments that have been questionable to sell a story....

And yet here you are, still chirping about a man you never even heard off or followed....but could not control yourself when it came down to commenting....because of what one man represents....and you think his words or message is violent....violent enough for someone to shot him anyways... I did not agree with everything he said , nobody deserves to be shot over just words, don't like them don't listen or leave, nobody forced anyone to go to any of his events....those on the left that did attend where nothing more than angry brain washed students who had as much life experience as my pet goffer...Very few of these students had even researched what topics they wanted you be heard on, and left when Charlie destroyed their argument and embarrassed them in front of their peers... Angry little people that's what the left is....always angry he has offices or clubs at over 800 university's and campuses and they are going to continue sending his message to left....it is only going to get bigger.. Nothing the left has ever said or done has wanted me to pick up a rifle and kill someone on the left, I've might have felt the urge to punch a few, but never shot any not worth the time or effort........ This young man is going to waste away in prison, I'm sure he will be popular with the other inmates because of his sexual orientation..., then will be put to death where he will have to explain his actions to god...

Funny nobody even brought it up until you did, and i really don't think the conservatives on this forum really care what Eisenstein said on this topic anyways, his opinion on this topic carries no more weight than yours does... Here is my adage for the day, since we are pulling stuff from our orifices again...the entire left side of the political spectrum do not share the same moral values as conservatives, they constantly lie, cheat, and are dishonest, they hate Canadian traditions and values, and have done very little of value for the country...did i say they support terrorism and it's values...I could go on and on....but you get the point...if anyone was going to do something to Christ it would be lead by a bunch of screaming lefties....

Einstein did not have a say in the creation of Israel did he, he was not part of the UN, nor was he part of the Israelis government , So his opinion is just that...his, the league of nations started this process, and finished with the UN declarations....take it up with them...

FU, don't play the victim here, you jumped at the opportunity to drag his name through the mud...it is what the left does claims they were forced to do it....you had many choices and you sir choose to stand on his neck and ruin his reputation...for talking, to students that was his crime, his sentence was his death....and the left is celebrating that fact... This is not about me or my believes, this is about your comments not mine...and the few you did have did not make me throw down what i was doing and pick up a rifle...and how judgmental you guys are on the left... you just could not help yourself...and not just you, but most of the left on this forum....and I'm sure there are people on the left that is some what normal....they seem to be few and far between...what you should said should have been nothing...

No, it's good you take pleasure in rubbing a dead guys reputation into the dirt, what is worse the left is actually celebrating it, like it was some trophy they hang on the wall...Be it the left in the US and the left here in Canada...same sh1T different pile...I 'm just wonder have you ever make any statements you regret, told any off color jokes, ....that if drug up at the time of your death someone could use to drag your name in the dirt, because that seems fun i guess........i bet there is a few...But that's not why you despise Charlie....it is because it goes against your narrative...he challenged the left through conversation...and was getting pretty popular at doing so....breaking the lefts secret code.... The left has always been screwed up here in Canada, it's the left here in Canada that are actually celebrating Charlies death, like somehow they were personal injured in his attacks....those are the cancerous left we all could do without...The man is dead, your side killed him, that should have been enough, no you guys got to keep pushing it...that what makes the left cancerous...

Bravo, to you sir, actually taking up the challenge of finding remarks that would blacken Charlies name, and great examples all of them are........proving to the others on the left that having conversations with most on the left are futile, and dangerous...as words now have become deadly where physical violence is required to make it stop... Not only violence , but lets also make sure his reputation is shattered as well....And to be honest, I'm not sure i care what the left thinks about anyone any more, the entire leftist movement is the cancer of this country, it's actions and policies have pretty much turn this nation into a laughing stock of the globe....and while you and others celebrate that it disgust me...

This is how the left debates....hear me now, and i'm interested in your point of view, and when comforted they walk away... All anger and no facts...

Why would you think it is not a turning point ? this man was killed because members on the left side of the spectrum decided his words were so veil that killing him was the only option....and not just him he discussed this with plenty of other leftist on public forums...and through their conversations this idea of murder was born.... NO ONE forced anyone to these rallies to discuss or defend their ideas...and yet he was joined by huge crowds , anyone was free to talk/ discuss a wide range of topics, all were free to leave when they wanted....It is the left that has turned words they don't like into descriptors like violence, threats, etc....and this Charlie Kirk thing is a example of that words that were so violent it call for his death.... And yes this is one mans actions...But lets not pretend that both sides have their violent elements within them...and both sides have had those conversations about violence....The right has the proud boys etc., and the left Antifa etc ... The message here is without conversation nothing will ever get solved between the left and the right.......this action is providing evidence that we can't even sit down and talk with out risk of life and limb...want more evidence just look on this forum, can't remember one time when 2 posters of opposite sides had conversation and solved an issue....