Army Guy

That would give Russia only a 12 day supply of arty rounds...since china is not saying anything about providing munitions to Russia the rest is just a guess....who is giving Russia the remaining 18 days worth...which would amount to 310,000 rounds a month...more than the west could dream of, and more than Russia...my best guess would be it is a split between china and NK , and i would also say, any way you split it both are out producing the west by a large number...

These protestors' are in no position to demand anything...changing stock portfolios', who you do business with, where you get your funding from...who you can share education ideas from.... This opens a huge can of worms...what next all Canadians need to cleanse their stock portfolios, no longer able to accept funding for other sources you don't like , do we start burning books becasue you don't like the authors , or maybe you don't like white privileged males, black guys with small penises the list is endless... Who are these people to dictate anything, to anyone...you have the right to protest but you don't have the right to make outrageous demands...like somehow we owe you something...F8ck that, they have not contributes spit to this nation or communities yet...sit down and STFU.... All this protesting does is give terrorist the ability to say "see everyone likes us" our cause of exterminating jews is a righteous one, it gives them the power... Endorsing this type of behavior is wrong on so many levels, they should be kicked out of all the camps arrested and charged with mischief, or better yet supporting terrorism try and start a life with that on your record...

it could be coming from my aunt fanny, the real question is where are they getting there info from i can only assume it has something to due with reports coming from the Ukrainian front...but like my boss used to say assuming anything only makes a ass out of u and me...even if we are to meet in the middle , then the numbers still stand Russia, NK, are out producing the west by large numbers... And if the opposite were to be true then Ukraine numbers would be way up...and they are not...point is Russia has the numbers on troops, ammo, equipment, Ukraine is losing ground it can not take back right now due to the lack of support from NATO...and i'm sorry to say that support will continue to dwindle...Ukraine knows that, the wests attention span is not that long...instead of losing men with no return they should start talks...every day they wait russia gains more ground...

I'm sure they are but today...we live in a different Canada one that religion does not play that big of a role if at all... I do believe in my religion, but that does not mean i'm easy to get along with...

Those numbers are not coming from Russia but from Ukraine and the troops of the front...And i agree i would not trust any info coming from Russia and not very confident on info coming from Ukraine...

I'm floating around in outer space trying to piece together your conversation, perhaps you can use some more context... You do know that catholic and protestant religions are a dying breed, the majority of Canadians are not that religious, i'd say most would fall into the atheist category... ......so what your saying now is a minority of Canadians get along...while the majority does what ? Canadians have been told by our government we have no culture, no identity, nothing more than a glob of people really.... that being diverse is our strength, which is complete bull*it, we have gone out of our way to water down what we are, who we are, and our history, all to accommodate new comers, and on top of all that we have apologized to every man, women, dog, cat, goffer, squirrel in the nation for something that happened in the past...So much so we have been divided into millions of little groups...groups that no one dare talk to anyone outside of your own group, for fear of being canceled or worse...and when conversation does happen it is yelling and screaming calling our names....that normally end with a good old fashion Canadian FU... You have done nothing to suggest otherwise... other than we get along...when our true selves are much more ugly than you think they are...

Thats not what i'm saying, no one is going to out spend the US, however there are certain areas that the US is lacking in, one of those is arty ammo, in regards to producing arty ammo they have let slide their production capacity, which is why they are now spending US tax dollars on manufacturing capacity in Canada and Poland... You seen the numbers, how else can you explain it, Russia is able to sustain 20,000 rounds a day...while Ukraine is only able to sustain 5000 rounds a day...with support from all NATO countries...to put this into perspective Ukraine is just one localized conflict, imagine if this was to expand to the entire european theater...production numbers would be astronomically high...thats how far manufacturing capacity has fallen...

i wish i had your crystal ball, i'd buy lotto tickets...

More cryptic replies... 1. Canada that you and i once knew is long gone my friend, today Canadians don't give a crap at the nation, what they care about is what the nation can do for them...very few Patriotic Canadians left...getting along is no longer enough.. 2. George samolinie born in 1900, he remembers the 1800 's and the collapse of slavery... 3..get along , disagree, many Canadians white, black, brown,every color and creed, purple with warts on their dicks will vote conservatives because they are tired of being divided by the left, tired of being torn apart as a nation.

They have been in a war state for the last 60 plus years...and a country run by a fruit loop anything is possible..never is such a long time... They have enough to do whatever dear leader tells them to do... we have already discussed the US capabilities, and globally they are not much, US has donated 4 million arty rounds since the inception of the war....NK has donated 5 million just recently, and still producing more ammo...again the math is right there... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-14/kim-sent-russia-millions-of-artillery-shells-south-korea-says#:~:text=North Korea has sent containers to Russia that,soon visits Pyongyang%2C South Korea’s defense minister said. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-supplied-ukraine-over-4-154802452.html#:~:text=Ukraine has received a colossal number of artillery,tens of thousands of precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds. NK is a player in this conflict, right now it is keeping Russia in arty rounds...filling it's need for 20,000 plus rounds each day...

But that has not happened has it, in fact Ukraine is losing ground daily...along with troops and equipment...Ukraine has already changed it's draft requirements twice now...enlisting people has been a issue for some time now...what your proposing is go to the last drop, for no real gains...and while i don't question the bravery of it's troops...there is a point when one must consider those that are still alive...and the cost of the war effort... NATO is not supplying a lot of usable equipment these days, and what they did donate has been old shit...with except of a few tanks, and Himars...And without another big equipment donation there is not going to be any major Ukraine offensive... Ukraine is going to need hundreds of billions to rebuild it's country, and rearm it's military...NATO is almost tapped out now...wait any longer and there won't be any rebuilding...it will be decades for them to build from the ashes

NATO is not producing that much at the moment...NK will produce whatever they are told to produce by the dear leader...the math alone says it all...Russia can not keep up with it's current usage...and is being supplemented by NK, which has donated more arty rounds to russia than the entire NATO has to Ukraine for the entire duration of the war... NK total war strategy is to shell the crap out of SK...and with 20,000 arty guns alone, they must have a huge manufacturing capacity to feed them...currently NK is manufacturing for russia while it's other manufacture plants are at low capacity producing shells to replace those given to Russia already...and here in the west NATO struggles to meet Ukraines 5000 shells a day...Russia is firing close to 20,000 rounds a day...does that math add up to you...it would suggest they are producing 400 % more than the west....

How does any of this relate to why Canada matters..."It does not", maybe micheal can explain it as he seems to approve of your post...You have failed at expressing why Canada matters...when the world has been warning Canada and it's leaders that we are on the verge of becoming irrelevant towards global issues, and soon to be isolated both economically and politically to our allieds...it is almost like you yourself are isolated and are stuck in the 1912 era...and yet today this nation has never been more divided on almost every issue that effects our nation, you just glossed over that point. By saying we get along...you mention slavic and english and french like they are the only ones worth mentioning ....when Canada or better yet justins canada is to become so diverse we don't have a culture or anything worth mentioning that is canadian culture... i will end with this we are as divided as we are going to get...becasue we all don't get along.

Russia has been quoted as using up to 20,000 rounds per day which equals 600,000 rounds per month...must be getting these numbers for someone, even at 1/2 these numbers Russia and NK are producing way more ammo than NATO. if you like i could translate into spanish if it made more sense to you... https://www.newsweek.com/why-ukraine-burning-through-ammo-war-russia-1812294 To sustain these type of numbers Russia and NK must be out manufacturing the US and NATO...As NATO and the US can not maintain Ukraine is a 5000 per day usage....we know that as fact as Ukraine is having a massive shortage of arty rounds and has to cut back on arty support... Russia and NK have no issues with maintaining 20,000 a day, how could they not be out producing NATO...your math does not add up.. https://www.newsweek.com/why-ukraine-burning-through-ammo-war-russia-1812294 Please note that according to Army undersecretary US will reach 85,000 rounds per month by 2028....by the end of this year it will produce 24,000 rounds per month....no where near the numbers required by Ukraine, which uses at minimum 5000 per day or more than 150,000 a month...And no way does Europe produce more than the US...

No English is my primary language, I'm also pretty good at reading it and writing it, and if you can imagine i'm also pretty good at math and numbers...I suggested you check your source again as you added too many zeros to your statement...Below is what you posted...you went from tens of thousands to millions, i know in english math there is a huge difference in those numbers you quoted compared to what the source document stated...Maybe spanish might be your stronger language at least for math...LOL

The causality ratio could be 20 to 1, the fact remains Ukraine can not sustain high casualties numbers for this long most units that have started this war have already had 150 % casualties rates...meaning there is no original members left. Russia does not even pay attention to this metric, men and women are all expendable...just numbers... The only ones taking ground right now is the Russians, and Ukrainian forces are making Russia pay for that ground in blood but Russia is also making Ukraine pay a high price in people and equipment that they can not as easily replace as the russians can... More fighting is not going to solve anything right now, NATO countries are not providing equipment in the right numbers, and what little numbers that was supply is being saved for a rainy day, in most cases pulled to the rear as they don';t want to loss any more of it... Without out NATO stepping up in a large way, Ukraine is better off with holding on to what they have now, and preventing Russia for gaining any more ground...The bottom line is Russia will save face regardless of the cost... Sure but then again who is going to hold them responsible...NATO, ICC, UN Russia is above the law and know it, in a few years western nations will have already moved on to the next war, and this conflict will be a few paras in some history book...

You can call them whatever you want, the present conflict is a meat grinder for both sides, in Ukraine they can not afford to continue much longer with the amount of losses in both lives and equipment...do you see the west in a hurry to rush in new equipment, or all their shitty obsolete equipment, that has got to be telling, Ukraine was literally begging for more arty shells did you see the west rush in more, and it is only going to get worse, the west will grow tired of this conflict and will start cutting back support like they have been doing.........Russia on the other hand will bleed the mother country dry, before admitting the conflict was a failure... Currently the west when talking about direct support to Ukraine is limited to NATO countries only...other western nations are not providing anything...and if they are it is very limited...

Sorry DUI, i think you should go back and check your numbers again, your adding way to many zero's, both mine sources as well as your same the same thing...US is expected to produce 100,000 rounds a month by end 2025, note those numbers include production from Canada, Poland as well. Yes the US is paying Canada to produce shells for them, seeing how we don't like to equip our own forces...

Ukraines biggest problem right now is they are at the whim of their allieds, for example US republican delays to aid meant Russia made huge gains on the battle field, which means Ukrainian soldiers suffered huge causalities' in defending. Not just the US but the rest of NATO failed to step up in any meaningful way either... That's the problem with the entire west they get bored very early, and loss interest... God knows what is going to happen when trump gets in, but i'm sure aid is not going to flow like it has been, and Canada and europe are never going to step in and fill those shoes... If NATO was smart they would be dumping in huge amounts of aid right now...But since that is not going to happen, it would be in Ukraines best interest to start peace talks... Ukraine is not in charge of it's destiny...it is heavily relying on NATO to come through and we have failed to make a major difference...

almost 5 million rounds including 152 mm and 122mm, Have been shipped since the treaty was signed...I can only assume that these were from NK war stocks....but if they were recently manufactured then i would say his statement is true. NK is out producing the western military total production of shells...Keep in mind NK has well over 20,000 arty pieces alone, not counting rocket or self propelled...there whole defense strategy is based on arty.... https://www.state.gov/imposing-measures-in-response-to-navalnys-death-and-two-years-of-russias-full-scale-war-against-ukraine/#:~:text=Since September 2023%2C the DPRK,conflict since early October 2023 Meaning it's total manufacturing capacity has not being reached...and judging by the numbers they are delivering...that is a lot of capacity... Note i did not say they were the best quality, no way your going to have the same accuracy as western arty, but in these cases it is qty not quality. https://www.defensenews.com/land/2023/10/06/us-army-awards-15b-to-boost-global-production-of-artillery-rounds/ Not sure what the rest of NATO is producing but no where near the amount Ukraine needs or wants , considering they are consuming between 1000 to 5000 a day, and that is restrained ammo usage.

in the last 50 years how many criminals has the ICC brought to justice....and why do you think this is an effective means ?

I think that in this case being read in , only pertains to these two reports, by no means does it mean the entire file....just these two documents...So there is no way your getting the entire picture just a snapshot. Of what the liberal government wants to show...it has already been mentioned that there are thousands of documents still left out of the picture... I know someone mention that if read in he could not fire a MP or identify an MP that was accused in these reports or take other actions...Liberal government has said the matter is under investigation by RCMP, and i'm sure if they find the evidence to charge someone they would do that..." yes hell would freeze over if a politician got charged with anything", once charged and convicted of a crime , can they still hold their seat ? or can party leaders fire them? Can the hold their seat while in prison ? not sure on any of those questions....That being said the part of the excuse where the party leader could not take take some sort of action would be a moot point, RCMP would look after the criminal part... As for not being able to talk about it, i think mr sing has done that dance all around the edges of the grey zone...i don't think he really knows what he can say of not say...It won't be long before something or someone says or leaks something like the names, and this story gets bigger...Politicians are not very good at keeping secrets...

And now with all this Canadians do not know if they are screwed or punched...with Justin telling one story, may another and sing who knows i think this could have been planed all along...i mean really do Canadians really care ? i don't really think so...our government right now is so corrupt, MP's are only thinking how to line their own pockets...not the country...even if Canadians had the list of names which i think will come out somehow......what are Canadians going to demand they be fired or charges brought against them.. Canadian politics have become a joke ...how many canadians take it seriously...

Sounds like a democracy here in Canada, we vote and 4 years later we vote again, we let whom ever make all the decisions , then we get on a forum like this and b!tch and moan...not many Canadians take responsibility for anything and in the case of the last 8 plus years quality of life as been lowered...a lot...

Considering that 85 % of the votes were for the 2 known terrorist groups has got to say something about the Palestinian population, Fatah is just as bad as Hamas, both are global known terrorist groups...trying to paint the palestinian people as good becasue only 44 % of them voted for Hamas, is meaniless, when both parties have called for the destruction of Israel and death to all jews...let me repeat that 85 %, a vast majority of those palestinians that could vote, voted for a known terrorist group, that would continue the fight with israel....