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what are you talking about? are you going to correct yourself or will i have to report you for misrepresenting me and trying to defame me?

what? i have never once said that i want israel to be dismantled. either show where i've said this or correct yourself.

and dogonporch merely pointed that i support CJPME (canadians for justice and peacein the middle east). i'm glad we're having these comparisons.

of course it's adjusted. why wouldn't it be? what israel could purchase with $1 million of u.s.' taxpayer money in the 1950's differs from what they could purchase now. why are you having a hard time with this?

yes. the arabs started the mess by forcing the jewish terrorist groups, led by the future prime minister of israel to expel the arabs out of more than 500 villages in what is now israel. then demolish these 500 villages. those arabs are responsible for a lot of things. didn't the nazis blame the jews as well?

once again, pay attention to what was written: "Throughout all of its wars, Israel has continued to receive an average of $3 billion a year from the U.S. which have mostly gone towards its military." the $233 billion that israel has received, divided by 65 years (since 1948) = $3.6 billion.

even though history and information given show otherwise? so once again, you can't counter with any information and citation to backup your empty claim. show some integrity man. your response look like another rue-esque announcement that tries to push aside the facts and numbers in order to side-step the truth. you cannot dispute the numbers, because they're indisputable. how is one to have a debate with you when you can't even admit the simple truth?

i didn't say anyone did. why are you not paying attention to what is being discussed? i am simply correcting bushcheney after he tried correcting information put out by HJ. i'm also correcting you and american woman and reiterating what HJ said about how israel would not be able to continue what it's doing without the military and political support from the u.s. israel receives the incredible amount of money and political support because congress is heavily influenced by AIPAC. it's quite simple. follow the money trail and see how much many of these congressmen receive from AIPAC. i quoted haaretz. one of the best known, oldest and biggest media outlets in israel. are you trying to discount what haaretz is saying by not mentioning the name and calling it "your online newspaper"? how desperately sad. "adjusted inflation" is a normal method of measuring and comparing spending between different times in our recent history. not sure why you're not familiar with this widely used method. i thought you were an informed person. no they don't. that is false information. even combined together, all the puppet arab regimes who were paid and bought out to accept israel, do not come anywhere close to how much israel, a supposed economic power, receives in social assistance courtesy of u.s. taxpayers. i guess some u.s. congressmen, who are so against social programs, are okay with u.s. taxpayers paying for social assistance to this one rogue state, who refuses to define its borders.

it's good that his morals overcame his immoral behaviour, just in time when the scandal came out in the open. the PMO PR office called. they want to hire you.

i suppose your fluffy response is your way of saying: "i stand corrected." to what you said earlier:

you guys are hilarious with your commentary. U.S. aid to Israel totals $233.7b over six decades The United States has provided Israel with $233.7 billion in aid ‏(after adjusting for inflation‏) since the state was formed in 1948 through the end of last year, research by TheMarker has found. In nominal terms, total American aid was $112 billion over the years, according to data that appears on the website of the U.S. Congress. link however, those figures don't include loan guarantees and transfer of military equipment: The figures do not include loan guarantees amounting to about $19 billion that Washington has granted Israel in recent years to make it easier for it to borrow overseas. It also doesn’t include the transfer of surplus military equipment to Israel. this also confirms what HJ said earlier: The first U.S. aid to Israel arrived in 1949 and was used for such basic purposes as buying food and absorbing Jewish refugees. It began to expand a decade later with the first military aid. It grew gradually from a base of $100 million ‏(in nominal terms‏) in 1949, before taking off after the Yom Kippur War and the signing of the Camp David agreements. Since then, U.S. aid has been about $3 billion annually, of which $1.8 billion is military assistance with the rest for civilian purposes. In 1998 Benjamin Netanyahu, in his first term as prime minister, led a drive to convert the civilian portion to military aid, totaling $2.5 billion to $3 billion a year. link

your subjective impression is wrong. i'm not repeating the same comments. i am shedding light into a dark and ugly ideology and a sick culture that you refuse to acknowledge. that bonam tries to portray differently. israel has a powerful PR and it has a tireless group of people who will repeat the perception about who it is and what it does. the perception that it wants to create is the usual thing we hear: - israel has "the most moral military in the world" - israel is the only democracy in the middle east - israel is under threat of violence and it needs to defend itself - israel needs to be defended by the western world because of the above the balance of information is changing rapidly. the truth, as according to what i and others try to bring up is different than the image israel tries to paint. the zionist movement, which is nothing more than colonialism and expansionism is losing support, because people are, more than ever, able to see what israel is really about. people are tired of the lies they see. we have evidence and information on our fingertips. we have international law and court rulings and we have a growing number of israelis and jews who are speaking out against israel's unnatural and immoral behaviour. most young jews outside of israel can no longer relate to israel and do not buy the israeli PR. this is a momentum that cannot be stopped. i'm simply part of this momentum that wants to see real justice and peace, instead of the status quo, which is the preservation of the harsh treatment of a group of our fellow human beings. unless you come clean and accept the above, instead of deluding yourself, you will end up being on the wrong side of history much like the apartheid regime and its supporters were in south africa.

canada should be pressing israel to give up its nuclear weapons program, instead of worrying about a non-existent iranian nuclear weapons program.

this is what zionism is and this is why zionism should be rejected by israelis and jews around the world, as well as the governments of the western nations: Former Israeli soldiers reveal some very inconvenient truths about institutionalized practices of intimidation and brutality towards Palestinians in the occupied territories, including night raids and arbitrary arrests unrelated to security, the use of human shields and other criminal behavior. http://www.cbc.ca/thesundayedition/features/2013/10/20/feature-7/

oh and the canadian police would never go that low and use agent provocateur to create the violence narrative. it would never happen. that's just more leftist, hippie talk. it never happened in montreal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZm-AL9uIPc and it never happened in toronto: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbLU9tdDwxo

can you post these pics?

you guys are an embarrassment. one lie and misinformation after another. seriously, i'm still trying to get over the crap that bonam spewed out: for those who are struggling with the numbers and facts: approximately 711,000 to 725,000 palestinians fled or were expelled from their homes. that's 80% of the palestinians living in what is now israel, who left due to being expelled or running away from the israeli military and zionist militias. The number of Palestinian refugees has been a matter of dispute. Since 1949, Arab spokespeople have claimed that the number is between 900,000 and 1 million, while spokespeople for the Israeli government have usually set the number at about 520,000. The economic Delegation of the United Nations and United Nations Relief and Works agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) set the number at 726,000 people. Other estimates, for example, in February 1949, the British set the number of refugees at 810,000. link one of the reasons some of the palestinians fled their homes (and never allowed to go back) was due to several massacres done by the zionist militias. the massacres have been documented. the number of people killed differ, but there is no dispute that massacres happened. According to Morris, the Israelis were responsible for 24 massacres during the war. Aryeh Yizthaki attests 10 major massacres with more than 50 victims each. Palestinian researcher Salman Abu-Sitta records 33, half of them occurring during the civil war period and Saleh Abdel Jawad has listed 68 villages where acts of indiscriminate killing of prisoners, and civilians, where no threat was posed to Israeli soldiers, took place. source

what fantasy world do you live in? suddenly, just like that, bonam re-writes history by deleting the fact that over 700,000 palestinians were killed or forcibly displaced and some escaped to flee the violent jewish militias that were going from village to town, burning homes down. over 500 palestinian villages were depopulated and destroyed in what is now the state of israel. this happened just over 60 years ago. oh and not long before that, you had zionist terrorist groups whose leaders eventually became the leaders of the state of israel.

that's a funny comment, because you said it.

any ideology and practice that takes away the rights of others, like zionism does, should be outlawed. zionism has turned into an ugly and destructive colonialist cult, where, its main goal, "greater israel" or "promised land" has resulted in the violation of the rights of another group of people.

according to the documents provided by edward snowden, canada's spy agency, csec, has been spying on the brazil's mining and energy ministries and then providing their information to canada's largest energy companies who are operating and looking to operate in brazil. why is this even happening? is canada's $880 million dollar spy agency employed by the canadian energy industries? harper is claiming to be surprised that this is happening and he has said he is 'very concerned'. is he telling the truth or is he avoiding taking responsibility for yet another shady behaviour by the government. this is not the first time that the harper government and its relationship with the energy industry has been shown to be corrupt. the dirty relationship between the canadian government and our energy industry may become an even more disastrous issue as the truth continues to unfold. "There seems to be no limit to what the Harper government will do to help their friends in the oil and mining industries. They've muzzled scientists, gutted environmental laws, reneged on our international climate commitments, labelled environmental critics as criminals and traitors, and have now been caught engaging in economic espionage in a friendly country. Canadians, and our allies, have a right to ask who exactly is receiving the gathered intelligence and whose interests are being served." keith stewart, an energy policy analyst with greenpeace canada

bonam: these videos are from breakingthesilence.org. there are hundreds of these videos. not just from female israeli soldiers, but also male soldiers. are you willing to watch the whole video, accept them and talk about the information they are giving?

what a douche. you cried about 'fake numbers' and dre provided you with the numbers. in the face of these 'real numbers', you go into another one of your keyboard pounding episodes. grow up, child.

some county democrat volunteer's tweet from september 20th has the mapleleafweb forum's model of class and politeness in shock. i'd start posting the never-ending racist, sexist and other vile quotes, videos and tweets by republicans but that's giving effort. here is one of many places where you can find some of them: http://republicansareracists.com/

we (U.S.) were supporting al queda and their war crimes in syria and we (U.S.) were supporting saddam when they were gassing the kurds and the iranians. you're a lawyer? why are you having a difficult time dealing with facts and instead, engaging in dishonest representation of the facts?