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he hails from the country that gives $3 billion a year and political support in order to let it get away with the human rights violations and breaking international law. perhaps it's time for the u.s. to stop being israel's sugar daddy and cut it off for not being a good listener, just like it did with egypt. maybe saudi and israel's friendship can grow even more as they seem to already have become bff's. those wahabists who were behind 9/11 and al queda have lots of oil money to help israel out.

don't be so negative gosthacked. you're not seeing the positive picture here. for example, all the employment that the meltdown has created and all the homeless people it's helping: Japan's homeless recruited for murky Fukushima clean-up (Reuters) - Seiji Sasa hits the train station in this northern Japanese city before dawn most mornings to prowl for homeless men. He isn't a social worker. He's a recruiter. The men in Sendai Station are potential laborers that Sasa can dispatch to contractors in Japan's nuclear disaster zone for a bounty of $100 a head. "This is how labor recruiters like me come in every day," Sasa says, as he strides past men sleeping on cardboard and clutching at their coats against the early winter cold. It's also how Japan finds people willing to accept minimum wage for one of the most undesirable jobs in the industrialized world: working on the $35 billion, taxpayer-funded effort to clean up radioactive fallout across an area of northern Japan larger than Hong Kong. ... In the October case, homeless men were rounded up at Sendai's train station by Sasa, then put to work clearing radioactive soil and debris in Fukushima City for less than minimum wage, according to police and accounts of those involved. The men reported up through a chain of three other companies to Obayashi, Japan's second-largest construction company. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/30/us-fukushima-workers-idUSBRE9BT00520131230

one of the largest american academic organizations, the asa has voted to join the bds movement and boycott israel. this will not effect individual israeli academics and is more of a symbolic gesture. here is what one of the asa members had to say: Why I voted for an academic boycott of Israel As a 39-year member of the American Studies Assn. (ASA) and a Jewish American... ... The resolution is far from an attack on academic freedom. In fact, it is a proper response to the routine denial of such scholarly freedom to Palestinian students. Having recently returned home from a trip to Israel and Palestine with Interfaith Peace-Builders, during which I was more profoundly shaken than I could ever have imagined by the brutality I saw toward Palestinians, I feel more strongly than ever the urgency of taking a stand in solidarity with Palestinians and their beleaguered Israeli allies. read more: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/blowback/la-ol-israel-academic-boycott-blowback-20131227,0,4082285.story#ixzz2pJiD8M1P

typical shady. you obviously have not read the article you posted and have not studied the deal. iran can develop centrifuges as allowed under the deal. also, what else do you expect from menendez, schumer and kirk? 3 of the top recipients of right-wing israeli donations.

menachem begin was the leader of the zionist terrorist group, irgun. he later became the prime minister of israel. yitzack shamir, a member of the zionist terrorist group, the stern gang (Lehi) also became the prime minister of israel. i may not agree with the many things these two did, but they were democratically elected and i respect the process. the person and group you're trying to accuse of terrorism is not even designated as a terrorist group by israel. canada has not designated muslim brotherhood a terrorist organization. only egypt and russia have. even israel has not declared it as such. not even the harper government who is all israel, all the time has not declared the muslim brotherhood a terrorist organization and even accepted the egyptian elections as legitimate when morsi came to power. canada also called the ousting of the elected president a military coup.

rats? you seem very angry at cjpme. you should ask them what they're going to do, since i don't represent them and i have no idea what their plans are. i didn't even know they were supporters of the muslim brotherhood. i thought they were supporters of the democratic process. are you a supporter of democracy? or are you a supporter of overthrowing democratically elected governments? what say you? hey guess what! the north korean government has declared every other party in north korea to be a terrorist party! start a thread on it! bring shame to those who support anything else! oh and how about them blacks who had it so good under apartheid? why did mandela have to come and ruin it for them? damn you mandela!!!!!

not sure if it's funny or sad that doggydog gets all giddy and tries to bring some credibility to the declaration of the egyptian military's criminalization of a democratically elected party who happens to be their opposition and who they violently removed through a coup. what's next? declaring that the south african blacks had it better under the apartheid regime?... oh wait.

they've funded the al quaeda in syria and iraq. they've killed thousands of civilians through terrorism in those countries. in syria, the saudi funded al quaeda is killing the moderate rebels and any non-sunnis in syria, including syrian christians. they were also behind the iranian embassy bombing in lebanon which is an act of terrorism.

there is no fog rocky road. this is not about religion. this is not about two sides to every story. there is no 'dispute' on the main issues in the region. what's happening is very simple: israel is violating international law and abusing the rights of the palestinians by occupying them and systematically stealing their land by continuously increasing the illegal jewish settlements. there is no need to fall for the artificial dispute that the colonialist PR has created.

it is, only if you are not capable of understanding the analogy. if the catholic church is going to announce that they're against pedophilia, while doing what they can in their power to protect the priests who engaged in child rape, then they're in the wrong and they're hypocrites. if thatcher is going to say she is against apartheid, but do what she can to protect and enable the apartheid regime to continue what it's doing, then her comments about apartheid have no meaning and she is a hypocrite.

the catholic church is against child rape and pedophilia but their actions or in-actions have enabled for it to continue.

everything happened in steps and one thing led to another. what mandela did before going to prison were the early struggles against the oppressive apartheid regime. it brought recognition to the problem and created emotion and passion. it also created a sense that something could be done against the oppressor. you think israel would have been formed without begin, (who later became the prime minister of israel), engaging in terrorist attacks against the british and the palestinians? wherever the ideas of bantustans came from, they were in south africa before and are now no longer. before, the blacks could not vote and now they can. your attempt at belittling what mandela achieved just doesn't measure up to facts.

i hope you are also in support of non-violent movements shady. such as the bds movement. this movement can achieve equality and fight against human rights violations without violence.

everyone seems to have a brand of terrorism. you seem to have a problem with responding to terrorism with terrorism. remind me: who is no longer living in bantustans? and who is able to vote?

are you trying to say that mandela wasn't able to achieve anything?

no. that's not what i mean. i mean, being rue and deny facts. he has such problems with facts that even dogonporch stepped in to correct him on one of the misinformation he was spreading. there are many connections between apartheid south africa, the human rights violations and israel and its treatment of palestinians. if we're talking about the legacy of mandela and the struggles of the blacks in south africa, it's natural to find a parallel. as mandela said: "There are many similarities between our struggle and that of the PLO. We live under a unique form of colonialism in South Africa, as well as in Israel…” your opinion is your opinion. the analogy works perfectly in my view. as soon as israel is criticized, assad is brought up. like somehow, what assad does cancels what israel has been doing for the past 6 decades. not only that, but western countries do not back assad or other criminals around the world, however, they back israel, while it continues to violates the rights of the palestinians. the treatment of israel is very similar to how apartheid south africa was treated by most western countries' governments. they continued to back it until the very end, when they knew the world view and world movement was too big to stop and they needed to come out looking like they supported the right side. the good news is that, as it looks now, something similar will happen to the current israeli regime and its western backers. the momentum and the support for palestinians is getting too big and too strong.

some may find this interesting, where mandela talks about begin and arafat: In Chapter 42 of his autobiography “Long Walk to Freedom,” Nelson Mandela describes how, in 1961, he began forming the African National Congress’ (ANC) military wing to launch guerrilla attacks on the apartheid regime. “I, who had never been a soldier, who had never fought in battle, who had never fired a gun at an enemy, had been given the task of starting an army. … I began in the only way I knew how, by reading and talking to experts.” Mandela recalls that he read about Castro and Che Guevara, about Mao Tse-Tung, about the uprisings in Ethiopia, Kenya, Algeria, even about the Boer revolt against their former British rulers. He mentions three books that were crucial to his education. One was Commando by Deneys Reitz about the Boer rebellion. The second was Edgar Snow’s Red Star Over China about Mao’s revolution. And this was the third: I read The Revolt by Menachem Begin and was encouraged by the fact that the Israeli leader had led a guerrilla force in a country with neither mountains nor forests, a situation similar to our own. Interesting. It gets even more interesting when you read what Mandela told Yasser Arafat in 1990, two weeks after he was released from 27 years in prison: There are many similarities between our struggle and that of the PLO. We live under a unique form of colonialism in South Africa, as well as in Israel…” Mandela against apartheid, Begin against the British Mandate, Arafat against the occupation. Their differences as rebel leaders are not as important as what they had in common: All three took up arms in the cause of freedom.

get the violin out. it's like feeling for nazi sympathizers who allowed the nazi regime to continue doing what they did. people seem to only accept absolutes. why are some people expecting south africa to be something impossible in only 30 years? it takes generations to see real changes. life for africans is better and more just now than it was before. now it's up to them to take advantage of what mandela was able to bring, which was equality, to some degree, and take it to a better place.

many israeli apologists have tried to push aside the bds (boycott divestment and sanctions) movement, which started in 2005, by non-governmental palestinian organizations, as a failing movement which will not have an impact on israel's ongoing occupation, settlement increase and annexation of palestinian land. it has been anything but that. the bds movement has continued to grow and there are signs of public panic by the israeli government in regards to this. this movement has a chance to accelerate due to the analogies with apartheid south africa in the wake of mandela's death, if the latest peace process collapses. This has happened in recent days: The Dutch water company Vitens severed its ties with Israeli counterpart Mekorot; Canada’s largest Protestant church decided to boycott three Israeli companies; the Romanian government refused to send any more construction workers; and American Studies Association academics are voting on a measure to sever links with Israeli universities. haaretz

there is no point in responding to someone who tries to rationalize racist acts like forcibly transferring a group of people from their land against their will. the other perspective doesn't warrant a respond or debate.

apartheid south africa came down because of a world movement that was triggered by mandela. u.s.' civil rights movement was from within. so it's not wise to compare the two. some regimes are not capable of change of within, unless pressured from outside. apartheid south africa was one and israel looks to be another.

it's interesting that whenever there is criticism of israel, there are 3 different types of responses from the zionist apologists: a) deny the facts and spread misinformation or lies try to change the course of discussion by going off on tangents c) ask why there is no criticism of other rapists, like having other rapists around excuses the rapist being criticized the fact remains that israel is engaging in another questionable plan to forcibly remove a group of people who are not jewish. over 40,000 bedouins are going to be removed from their land, without having discussed it with them and the zionist apologists, with their racist outlook on how things work will do everything but to admit that this is wrong.

snubbing mandela's funeral? bibi and peres are trying to fly under the radar, by not drawing attention to israel's past and present. this is why they're not attending the funeral, while pretty much every other leader in the world is going. they thought it's going to blow over, but the similarities of the struggles of the palestinians under the racist zionist regime and that of the victims under apartheid south africa are just too big. not to mention that israel was so very close to the racist apartheid regime, until the very end. larry derfner nails it: Why aren't Netanyahu and Peres going to Johannesburg for Mandela's memorial? Bibi says it’s the expense, Peres says it’s a flu he can’t kick. More likely it’s two other reasons: Israel’s past and present. Nelson Mandela’s death brought up some inconvenient memories for Israel and the Diaspora Jewish establishment: Israel’s extremely fruitful alliance with apartheid South Africa until the very, very end; the anti-Mandela stance of right-wing Zionists because of his support for Arafat and the PLO (as well as for Gadhafi); and mainstream South African Jewry’s comfort with the apartheid regime (notwithstanding the brave opposition by a greatly disproportionate number of the country’s Jews). Then there’s the present-day, ongoing inconvenience of the similarity between apartheid and the occupation, and the awkwardness of having to praise a man who chose violence over submission while vilifying Palestinians who make the same choice.

this ugly man and what he represents, gets uglier: Nixing Mandela funeral as too costly, Bibi shows world what he's truly made of In his eleventh-hour decision against attending the funeral of Nelson Mandela, Benjamin Netanyahu proved that he is not the smug, petty, vindictive, waffling, in-your-face insulting man he seems. He's something worse. What we are stuck with, in the end, is the message that Netanyahu is sending to the world. The world that Netanyahu's Israel is determined not to be a part of. "The whole world is coming to South Africa," foreign ministry spokesman Clayson Monyela said at the weekend. The world, yes. Israel, maybe not.

any criticism of israel and their racist behaviour is 'bashing israel' and 'anti-semitism'. that's how you apologists roll, i realize that. i am simply pointing out to netanyahu's slimy attempt at scoring political points by using mandela's name to continue the fictitious image that the zionists have created for themselves as moral and ethical. when in reality, most people know that zionist israel is no different than apartheid south africa. especially since they worked so closely together during the height of apartheid south africa. you just cannot deny this: South African President Nelson Mandela, in his address for International Solidarity Day with the Palestinian People on December 4, 1997, said: “We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.”