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After taking a few days to listen to boths sides, alot of vets have never been to a centre before, no nbeed ,just pick up the phone and they got the help they needed. And the sacred cow thingy, give me a break before harper came along nobody gave a crap about vets or even the military. What is really pathetic is the left using these soldiers as props when they never cared before.

The thing is some vets want all soldiers to vote against harper and that means a liberal or NDP government, then what happens to the military. Becarefull what you wish for time.

All is fair in love and war. And when harper calls it quits everyone will say nice things about him. So don't get sick over something as trivial as this.

Hudson I hope you realize by your hatred for Israel , that has you backing some of the worst countries this planet has ever had. If you base everything on human rights ,you would be backing Israel, not all the dictatorships in the world.

Jumping ship.

And some how the CBC was waiting there even before the mounties showed up. This is a great day for canadians ,maybe now we will have a elections canada that is fair and not in the left's pocket.

So trudeau says he is going to be a very open and transparent leader, well his little gamble with throwing out the senators was not6 to open or transparent was it?? He seemed to do this by himself with a couple of advisors and that was it. Another lie by justin.

Always the tories fault. I know some aging seniors that lived larged for yrs and are now barly getting by. Yes there is problems for some ,alway will be no matter who is in power, but alot of it is the persons fault for not living within thier means. I know of a former NHL player who lived large during his carreer and now does not have a pot to piss in. Right now inONT it is the dlaton gang that has caused so much grief for our seniors and I see the energy minister came out today and told everyone to save the planet put on a sweater and turn down the heat. Lets put majority of the blame where it belongs.

Clearly I hate rowing, I have owned johnson/rude, martin, chrysler and mercs, and the merc is the only one I have not rowed home.

I forgot about that one.

I am sure hudson is right now building a story that says they are harvesting organs, and selling them to the chinese.

This is not over yet for trudeau IMO, some of these senators have been around long before trudeau and if they have done everything by tghe book and then some youngster comes along and throws you under the bus. IMO opinion they should not put up with that. But then a day after the libs are voting themselves raises because of it.

It is not JT that is coming up with this stuff. This is right out of chretiens play book.

This is a set up by the media and unions to embarress the government and they are using the vets as pawns. Understand now. As I said alot of vets have come out and said the opposite, of course there will be problems but the thing is they never gave the new system a chance to see if it works. And if the vets want to put in the liberals or NDP then fine, kiss the forces good bye.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/23214-ptsd-and-the-military/page-5 #72. And harper went out and got then the proper equiptment, they showed up in itilis(sp) jeeps and ended it in amoured vehicles and tanks brought home in our own globemasters and not on some rented piece of russian junk.

Now the truth is coming out, and I feel some vets are going to be embarressed when they realized they were used as pawns by PSAC and the media especially the CBC. Yes fantino is a idiot and should step down, but when you start hearing the union paid for the vets to come as long as they trashed the government. On CFRA yesterday the host nick who is a vet was wild about what was going on and today after he realized what was really going on was wild about that. Alot of vets were phoning in telling of there great experiances with the VA and most never ever went to a office , you just call the 800 number and the service is great. It is time for people in this country and this board to pull their heads out of your arses and look a little deeper into these things before you scream for the governments head. Can the gov do a better job of course, but it is not as bad as certain groups want you to believe. Time for people to demand that these unions and the media to start telling the truth instead of all the BS so they can get rid of the government and put some one in that will give into the demands again.

Well they are fighting back, we are liberal senators and that is not going to change no matter what trudeau says.This is going to back fire on him.

Think about it for a while. You can't be that daft.

And now the media is making trudeau a hewro for stealing mulcairs idea. Look at the ottawa citizen front section, 3/4 of it is prasing trudeau for being sucvh a visonary, it is so pathetic how the media will do anything to maqke sure he gets elected. And anyone that falls for tghis seante trick is a fool, because all this is nothing but thinking the voters aqre stupid and will fall for this. But then again the ONT liberals would win the next election, so what does that say about the voter or I should say the toronto voter. And by defeating the federal liberals harper has clean up ottawa by a 1000%

No longer liberal senators but senators from the liberal party.

Was it illegal???

When looking for something you posted it tells you just the thread you were in, it would be easier to show part of what you said ,which every other board I have been on does. It is easier to find what you are looking for. And I am all for the +/-.

Everybody is a victim now and no matter what a government does ,is not enough. Women are doing well in this country and this is another thing blown out of porportion. SAo you wnat women hired no matter whta even if they are not the best pick?? Like the language thing, where we have people hired because of language and nothing to do with the job. No wonder the government has had so many problems getting things done. So it makes me wonder with all these ''problems'' the same one when chretien was in power, I have to ask what the hell did chretien do for 13 yrs.

LOL He can't do anything untill he finds out what he can do legally and JT could be in a heap of trouble for what he just did.

By stacking the senate harper kept the 3 amigoes from filling it with separtists.