Up here it was siberia. But come one topaz he screwed up and just got nailed for it. After everything harper has been put thru by the media and this board, get use to it ,it is our turn now. And you will find out harper is 100 x's the man and statesmen trudeau could ever dream of. I don't even think trudeau's heart is in it, he just wants to be like daddy. And that is what scares me that he will wnat to come out with something even bigger then the crap trudeau sr stuck us with.