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Capital punishment should be re-instated (I mean come bloody on, someone self-admits to intend to rape and kill again and you are supporting his release into the public? Someone with over 60 crimes on his tab and you still think he should be allowed in society? Your demonic dude, demonic and heartless), auto plant closures are not a government issue (at least it shouldn't be but heck Liberal enjoy centralizing), and the poorly thought our health system NEEDS a restructuring project because it doesn't work as it is. Your right he does have experience, experience at misleading the public, hiding scandals, and milking the system for all its worth for the gain of the Liberal party. Yeah, he is most certainly the best candidate for a strong, unified, future Canada =p He was Finance Minister during an era of unprecedented government waste and corruption (not surprisingly in his department primarily) and if you can't seem to grasp that Martin is the worst of the 3 evils then you are beyond hope

You think most agree with you? I don't think even most people on the fringe left agree with you on much. Your best chance of finding political soul mates came on CPACs question session with junior high students. ROFL good one man xD Yes Fiberals have an illusion that most Canadians agree with them... well wake up call most Canadians don't like being lied to, led on, stolen from, and generally ignored or abused. Exactly, in my opinion they shouldn't have even done that but what I can't stand is how everyone is freaking out about it.. making it sound like the conservatives are going to go and hang homosexuals by their toe-nails or something.... tolerance and understanding, HA. I would like to know that last time people were tolerant and understanding of my white english-speaking American roots =p

Rofl who DOESNT prefer the American dollar these days? Another thing you can thank the Liberals for Ummm ever thought that maybe the trade problems are a result of the anti-American sentiment people like you and the current administration harbor? Hate is a nasty thing, be careful with it Because: #1. They are punishing us #2. Liberals dont care about the west so it isn't a big priority until election time #3. Because they are trying to damage our beef industry, you guys left us wide open to it too Perhaps because in some of those cases they have a point? We share borders, that means we have a responsibility (I dont know if you know the meaning of the word or not if you are a Liberal) and that means if we harbor terrorists (which is common knowledge) and they abuse the easy access to the USA they have every right to be concerned and blame us. Mad Cow was also Canadian, but it was blown WAY out of proportion and if we hadn't screwed them over this War on Terror they wouldn't have screwed us over so bad on the mad cow... its their way of getting back at us. Butler himself said Iraq was NOT cooperating (and he was Chief U.N. weapons inspector) =p Where are you getting your sources from?

lol I dont have to worry about that, Ken Nicole (Liberal Candidate for our area) has signs up EVERYWHERE and broadcasting etc all this stuff like 'they did it to you 20 years ago, dont let them do it to you again, vote Liberal' I am like 'wtf? You guys been DOING it for the past 4 terms I sure as heck aren't gonna vote Liberal' Tomorrow is election day! xD I am a Scrutineer (sp?) for the Conservatives in my polling area so I maybe I will get to talk to the other scrutineers about policies etc and start up some good debates =D

Too true, we all hope that too xD but also you must remember that since then what we consider 'right-wing' is far over to the left from what it was then... so I doubt that will be a problem, in fact I doubt a conservative government will change much of anything at this point (without a majority government at least) but I know they will keep more ridiculous laws and taxes from being pushed through the house Oh I dont have anything against the maritimers (other than the islands that keep electing Liberal candidates =p lol) in my opinion if there is a true divider in Canada it is between French and English Canadians.. that is mainly due to this 'equality' where French-Canadians get special status and special rights, no better way to alienate a minority than by trying to give them more rights than the majority xD But yeah, you guys out there are in similar straights, always overlooked and under-appreciated... same with the agriculture and logging industry out here. We are all in the same boat =*( Personally I am proud of every Canadian province except Quebec, each has its own proud past and history, but Quebec has nothing to be proud of. The fishermen and farmers of Canada went to war with fascism to defend the Frenchmen who in the end took over our country, that is a common bond that alot English-Canadians share (I hate writing English/French-Canadian, but there IS a major difference) Yeah x.x As I said earlier this Liberal government has done more to destroy the unity and prosperity of this country in the last 4 terms than was done in most of Canada's history, and the saddest thing is the left-wing still thinks Canada is better off because of Trudea, Chretien, and now Martin =p Hope your fishery survives, I know out here alot of cattle ranchers have gone belly up and moved to the states because of this anti-American government we keep re-electing and destroying the good relations we have had with the USA for so long (and which we needed since most of our produce is exported, especially live cattle)

CATO isn't even CLOSE to as goofy as CNN or CBC or such Liberal media networks =p lol Also I am a Canadian, every Canadian I know (except a select few) thinks we should have at least helped the States economically at the START of this all rather than make a show of being against the whole thing. You might not agree with your friends, but does that mean you wring them out to dry when they make a mistake? Heck no, and regardless of your opinion on the war we should have at least been there for them since they would have, and have been, there for us =p Also for future references simply saying go look it up doesn't cut it in the real world, because I could say something is so and tell you to look it up.. but how am I supposed to address you and your view if I dont know what source you got your information from that you are using as a defence? Doesn't make logical sense sorry =)

LoL! Yeah, its a disturbing trend... all these gay MPs, makes me fear someday a video turning up on the net 'Canadian MP orgy caught on tape!' That would sure make us Canadians look better internationally =p

Then its damnably good that in BC about 80%+ of the people are for the right-wing =p Your no Liberal, your a radical right-wing dude. You dont like change, that is a conservative thing, Liberals are the ones radically changing even Canadian society. The problem with your logic is that you keep voting in the guys who you KNOW are destroying your country, never giving yourself the chance at something better simply because according to you it can't exist... is that not narrow-minded? Joe Clark? I dont trust the guy one single bit, anyone who has the nerve to have lead a party that he would like to be the official opposition at least if not the governing party and then throws his support to a Liberal (which would be the other governing party) does not deserve your vote. He is no different than the Liberals, and if they are the Liberals then why are you voting for them and encouraging furthur corruption and destruction? Source: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/CalgarySun/N.../16/462039.html He doesn't hide, he simply isn't involved in massive scandals and openly corrupt. Is that a foreign concept to you? He is also anything but indecisive and what is there for him to hide that would matter? He isn't leading the counrty, and he has done an EXCELLENT job at being the official opposition to a majority government =p Also in regards to your misconceptions on bills and class differences. Thank the Liberals, you should research what idealism favors high taxes with equality payments and welfare. Right-wing ideology promotes individuality and personal accomplishment with as little government intervention and interference as possible (meaning less welfare and less taxes). I think ceasar you may be on the wrong side here

Notice that Alberta is Conservative homeland, fear left-wingers... fear the west, your pathetic and incompetent Liberal government is about to take a serious blow... I almost hope the Liberals win a minority government, so the Conservatives can destroy their reputation even more and next election dooming the Liberals entirely and could you provide sources for all this vast wisdom in knowing what all the Canadians thought? You do realize only a little over 30% of voting Canadians are for the Liberals (according to these polls: http://www.nodice.ca/election2004/polls.html) Notice I used a reference and supported it with evidence, please follow suit PS The Kyoto accord is a TERRIBLE waste of tax dollars and completely pointless, its just another excuse for Liberals to make tax money dissapear Source: http://www.cato.org/dailys/03-30-01.html

Wow, good prediction.... now to just see what happens xD Can't wait lol

LoL I can't believe I agree with everyone thus far that has posted (except August1991) xD That is a first, I like it lol Well said all, and I would like to add my own two cents: I was talking to a girl from Montreal on another chat, and it started off with me introducing myself as someone from Alberta, and then I challenged her with some questions about Quebec... at first she defended herself, saying they were very tolerant of English, everyone talked English, it was everywhere, French was used as much as English, etc etc.. then as soon as it moved to politics and who we would vote for she said she was going to vote for the bloc, when I asked her WHY she was voting for a seperatist party she suddenly exploded and said 'BECAUSE YOU ENGLISH CANADIANS ARE TRYING TO CRUSH OUR CULTURE AND WE WONT LET YOU STUPID PIGS' o.o I was like... '....' lol, after that things went downhill and I ended up not talking to her... additionally I know a couple English-speaking Canadians from Quebec who are very cool, and nice to hang out with (I work with one) and he can't stand French-Canadians (although he says the women are hot lol) Personally, I say let them seperate, but no support. They want sovereignty, give it to them, but dont baby them like they have been demanding us to do for over a century. Its time Quebec grew up and took care of itself. If they want to call for equality, get rid of special status, get rid of the anti-English mentality and convince us that you aren't going to turn on us as soon as you get the chance... if I do recall in WW2 French-Canadians let us English-speaking Canadians do the fighting and refused to join the army because 'it was an English war'.. RIGHT, France being invaded anyone? Sounds rather French to me, not to mention even back then Quebec didn't see themselves as part of Canada whereas the rest of us were more than ready to join in our nations defence. English-speaking Canadians are the lifeblood of this nation, English is our heritage, our culture, our tradition. Your attempt to destroy it borders on treason not to mention that you have become that which you denounce us of being =p

Problem #1: The Liberals have been in power so long it has become a security issue for most voters, if they dont know who to vote for or dont care they vote Liberal cuz 'they have ruled this long already so they must be doing a good job' which is completely and totally ignorant Problem #2: Liberals are very VERY talented at lying and deceit, they could steal your lawn ornaments and convince you that you gave them to them =p Just look at all the corruption, waste, and coverups that have already been shown, and there seems to be a new scandal revealed every week or so =p Problem #3: Anti-conservative mentality, blind and mis-guided, end up winning the Liberals votes because people want 'anyone but Harper and his Harperites in power, they will destroy the country'. Ask half the people who say that HOW he will destroy the country and they wont be able to answer, simply because its a Liberal rant that has propogated through Liberal circles and is repeated to the people from Problem #1 and it affects their decision unjustly. Problem #4: Conservatives suffer split votes which has allowed the Liberals to win election after election because right-wing Canada (the majority) can't unite under a single banner, the merging of two major right-wing parties has greatly increased the chances of a right-wing party finally booting the Liberals out of power... and the left-wingers are terrified, they thought that Canadians loved their corruption =p

AMEN! I am an Albertan, and I am so tired of how the East treats the West, ESPECIALLY the pompous and arrogant French-Canadians (not all of them are this way, but most of them are) who seem to think it only just that they take a massive amount of our provincial payout, demand equality, and then sustain special status in a country that is majority English =p I am voting conservative because they have the best chance of kicking the Liberals out, they are more in line with my thinking and my beliefs, and they will represent the West far better in Ottawa than the Liberals have ever done. NDP are simply another kind of Liberal that is even more socialist, so I would rather have liberals in power than them... heck Joe Clark is now shown his true colors for goodness sakes =p

Then we could open up a debate on how harmful homosexuality is to the man, or if you really wanted controversy argue about the effects on the mental health of both the individuals and any children they may be affecting. Then tell me why those people who speak out against homosexuality due to the harmful side effects of it are charged and/or called bigots and discriminatory? If there is one thing I have noticed, it is that the homosexual group is not afraid of publicity they want it. Therefore I can easily see them dragging someone to the Attorney-General for a frivolous or spiteful lawsuit that would end in their cause being more well-known and the person they attacked being utterly destroyed by the left-leaning public. Link The section in question deals with "hate propaganda" which is clearly defined as statements that advocate or promote genocide, which is, in turn defined under s. 318(2) as: "Any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely, (a) killing members of the group; or ( deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction" So for example rapists, poligamists, or pediphiles are also 'identifiable groups'? Not to mention it fails to limit the extent to which you could reason 'inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction'... Who gets to do the calculations? It does say physical destruction but it isn't tied to the aggressor directly moreso it ties that charge to the conditions being the death of their way of life. Hence any way of life that doesn't promote or support the homosexual way could in turn be thought of as the beginning of the end of the homosexual way both physically and mentally. So the old 'the truth hurts' defence will work 100% of the time? Your telling me I could go out and declare homosexuals bastions of disease, contamination, and the grunge of society and they couldn't prosecute me for it? I can't wait to see your responce So what happens if the Attorney General happens to be a sympathetic homosexual or simply sympathetic to the homosexual cause? So you agree this is a problem? I believe the true issue here is that our legal system DOESNT work =p I can expand on this if you want. Everything on paper should work out fine, however if you learn anything from history and trial and error it is that plans never work out as planned... there are ALWAYS loopholes, problems, and special instances where things that shouldn't happen do happen. The reason I dont support this legislation is that it allows the possiblity of some very serious problems to happen

Hahahaaa! The PLO accepts Israel's sovereignty? Then tell me BD why does it still exist? Onto your other point about it being occupied, your right it was. But guess who owned it first, waaaaay back before Palestine existed the nation of Israel existed, but they lost their land. Now they got it back, so I guess we could really follow the course of history far into our past to determine who really deserves the land but then you would be forced to admit that none of us are entitled to our current homelands correct? Lets stay as far from such abstract thought as possible

Read this time please, I read yours. Also these might be interesting to those of you who think this legislature is not dangerous in any way =p Persecution is not ok even if the people persecuted are 'just religious', dont support it.

excellent thoughts on the matter noelandmero, I worry about the same things as you bring up =o

What is it with you Liberals and hate-mongering.... all you do is hate, and you dont just hate other people you hate yourselves for your humanity. How can you live like that? o.0 In regards to this situation, if you do recall in WW2 the Jews getting almost exterminated off of earth, being relocated to Palestine and being given a sovereign state. What you might not recall is that ever since then the Arab people have not stopped trying to finish the extermination. Look it up, or buy a book. I recommend 'Israel's Wars: A History since 1947' by Efraim Karsh Link to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...product-details Arabs are far from extinct, and the left-wingers have allied with them and since Liberals control the media you get a very leftist view of everything happening in the ME

You have GOT to be kidding me, the only news source in USA that is right-wing biased is Fox News and that gets so much flak its amazing HAHAHAAA!! The CBC? Talk about a biased media outlet, you say the US government manipulates the media and yet you support the most blatantly left-leaning Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Yet again, more Liberal naivety I bet you dont know the first thing about Harper, you simply are spouting off what you have heard your media sources say. If you knew anything about conservatives it is that we are right-wing, but we are Canadian. Therefore, while some policies might seem American, that is because the USA is currently furthur to the right than Canada. So when we get a right-wing government in that is Canadian OF COURSE there are going to be similarities, does that means we will become the 51st state? Heck no, over our dead bodies =p His films are a debauchery of truth, they intentionally decieve the public and fuel controversy.. If you are willing to believe such an outright liar such as Michael Moore then you have no business declaring judgement on the conservatives Bible thumping? Nah. Homophobic? Are you crazy? potenial Rights infringing? Bill c-250 anyone? Liberal majority? Paul Martin, the guy responsible for the waste of untold billions of taxpayer dollars, for a legacy of corruption and the destruction of the Canadian society that made this country the best on earth... As Alexis de Tocqueville once said: You are supporting the downfall of North America InTO

Who said I was talking only about the new movie? Moore has yet to publish a single novel or movie that isn't completely and intentionally deceptive. That makes him a liar and I can gaurantee you his new movie wont break the trend =p First off the abuse scandel was a terrible thing, does that mean Bush went over to Iraq and personally oked those prisoner's sexual harrassment? No, if you believe that then you are gullible. Sometimes people act out of turn, that was the case there. WMD is still an unsettled issue, thinking there was none is just ignorance, read up on some of the missile heads and so on they find over there.... what happened to the rest of them? You are right about the burden of proof, but the problem then arises when the defence uses that as a form of attack on the credibility of the prosecution. It is extremely near-sighted and unless you search every square inch of Iraq and still find no WMD you cannot claim you are right and Bush is wrong. Its word against word =p Its good you dont trust the press, but you seem to echo alot of the Liberal media that is why I assumed you did. So now you use the White House as your defence when just one minute ago you were trying to destroy their credibility? My my my You see the most common stereotyped terrorist as being the only form of terrorist to exist, that is incorrect. I showed you the literal definition of Terrorist and Saddam fits the bill thereby he IS a terrorist and I believe the USA is at war with them Ok how did he botch up efforst against bin Laden first of all? Also your basing your argument on your own personal assumption that invading Iraq was the wrong thing to do, therefore attempting to justify yourself with your own thinking and that doesn't work. Then I agree with you, they should have cleaned up the mess long ago. But are we going to cry about spilled milk for all of eternity or are we gonna get down and clean it up? You sound just like those Liberals who said 'its clear Germany does not have the power to defy Europe' oh my weren't they proven terribly wrong, the difference between you and me is that you would wait for some terrible tragedy to happen to you or your people before acting, whereas I would ensure there was no danger and therefore nothing would happen. The "damned if you, damned if you don't" stance DOES hold up and has been proven in various points in history. If you dont believe me study the major wars, always the pacifists were downplaying the danger of the aggressor and the failure to act decisivley and quickly has ALWAYS been a bad move. If you do recall this war is still a legal war, Iraq was in violation of UN resolution and defiant to the end. There was a lack of cooperation to UN inspectors even, and so the USA, tired of waiting months for the UN to do nothing about these violations and fearing for the international security of the world made the decisive move for us. Try and convince the Iraqis that Saddam and his murderous reign were 'faked' =p You must look at situations in perspective, the USA built up Bin Laden to hold off the Russians which were a FAR greater danger to both the Afghani's and the USA. They propped up Saddam because they needed to indirectly fight Iran and the radical Islamic movement. They fought the greater evil with a lesser evil, and now when they are finally destroying the lesser evil's completely you turn around and condemn them for doing it =p Your point is unfounded, mainly because you claim people hate North America for 'breeding' terrorism and hatred towards them. People hate North America because we 'have' and they 'have not', jealousy is the most comon cause of hatred and it has been cultivated by various world leaders since it is an excellent tool to get votes (just look at the Liberals, they have a 'proud' history using anti-Americanism to gain votes)

Just some food for though: http://www.catholic-legate.com/articles/billc250.html That is a page lists some dangers of Bill C-250 along with several cases where Homosexuals have abused this 'hate crime' mentality. Reverse discrimination is still discrimination you know. Check it out before posting a rebuttal please (or if you want I will copy and paste important parts of it for you =p)

* ... and the room sits in silence as the Liberals scramble for cover from the searing pain of truth * Hehe sorry couldn't resist... Whenever it comes to taxes the system in Canada discourages self-achievement, and I dont agree with that. Therefore giving rich people and middle class people alike a tax cut seems fine by me, but personally the middle class (which I am part of) is going to be grateful for any tax break we can get after the Liberals and their constant raising of taxes.. at least the conservatives are talking about LOWERING stuff =p

ceasar, you and I agree on something at last xD Our health-care is in trouble not only because of lack of funding (heaven knows we throw so much cash its amazing how quickly it dissapears) but because of the population abusing it and inefficiency in the system itself. That is why I support privatization, stop forcing the government to support ALL our healthcare and end up with a crippled and incompetent system... allow some healthy competition, end up with more jobs, and also better service

or perhaps (Just MAYBE) your polls are biased and wrong? Maybe the rest of Canada doesn't love your Liberals as much as you seem to think they do according to your Liberal media outlets I wouldn't trust the CBC's opinion on anything personally or any such news station. I am a proud citizen of Canada, and I reside in Alberta... voting for the Conservatives to stop the Liberals from continuing to make a mockery of this great land

ceasar you should stop posting.. honestly, your story either drastically flip-flops, contradicts, or is completely the same every time you post: 'George Bush is evil, he led the world to war and invaded Iraq against the UN and that makes him the worst President ever etc etc etc Iraq has no WMD, Saddam played with bunnies in his back yard, showered his people with love and protection, had no terrorist ties' Please do get your story straight (and yes I did exagerate a little) In regards to Michael Moore... hahahaa, the guy is a big fat white idiot but he is entertaining and I will most likely watch his newest debauchery of truth... I can't wait for 'Michael Moore hates America' to come out, that movie is gonna be awesome xD