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What's so special about 1967 border? You mean you don't know? It's the internationally recognized border.

WHAT are you talking about, radical leftist lawyer? How many times have I said that I support international law and 1967 border? My point still stands. You have tried over and over again to excuse Israel's violations by bringing up examples of sick actions in other parts. Most of your comparisons do not make sense. What happened in Pakistan is internal. Israel's actions towards the Palestinians happens on Palestinian land.

My answer is no. I don't think they should go back to Europe. It doesn't make sense anymore. Even though I think Israel was created unnaturally. What has happened since the creation, with the actions from both sides, especially Israel, has made the situation even worse. Israel should go back to the 1967 border. Something the Palestinians, the Arabs and the rest of the world have accepted. Tell me, do you agree that it's okay for Israel to violate international law and continue to annex Palestinian land?

Pakistan. My mistake. My point still stands. You have tried over and over again to excuse Israel's violations by bringing up examples of sick actions in other parts. Most of your comparisons do not make sense. What happened in Pakistan is internal. Israel's actions towards the Palestinians happens on Palestinian land.

Way to set your standards. What's next to defend Israel's violations of international law and war crimes? Tell us that at least Israel is not Nazi Germancy? Why don't you just admit that you are a Jew? There is no shame in that. Except maybe when people believe Zionism and Judaism are the same.

So you're criticizing France for "throwing away freedom of speech" when you, yourself don't fully believe in freedom of speech.

Terrorists blowing things up in Afghanistan is not legitimacy for Israel to violate international human rights laws.

So you're almost for freedom of speech, but not quite.

They were never part of Israel to begin with. Not sure what you mean by Israel's borders are shrinking.

Hey. We agree.

Mr. Canada is the Stephen Colbert of this forum. He must be showing the ridiculousness of the Israeli apologists' comments. Comments from people like Dancer, Bonam and jbg.

France The Law stating that denying the Holocaust is an offense was passed in 1990. This is an amendment to a law from 1881 that related to freedom of the press. This law prohibits both anti-Semitism (Law 90-615) and denying the Holocaust (Article 24b, la loi Gayssot). Another law adopted in 2003 sets stiffer punishments for offenses against an anti-Semitic or racist background. (Law no. 2003-88 of February 2003). In addition, in 2003, the French Government established a permanent inter-ministerial commission to coordinate the activities of the Government in combating anti-Semitism and racism which discusses, inter-alia, possible legislative measures on the subject. [14] I suppose you are against that as well, Argus?

You don't think murder investigators cannot determine who has killed the victim without having been there to witness the murder? What a silly argument you're making. Besides all the eyewitnesses and the physical evidence of Israel using WP on civilians, there are also videos and photo evidence. Here is a series of photos I found from one quick search. Link You are one of the most dishonest people on this forum. You have so little integrity. Even when someone calls you on your bullshit, you continue to try to cover up your lie. Shame on you.

Hey Kimmy, what is your position on Galloway being banned from entering Canada to give his speech? What about Jewish Defense League (JDL) who was behind the pressure to stop Galloway from entering into Canada? What about the fact that JDL has been branded a terrorist organization? Tell me you're not one of those who champions freedom of speech selectively.

There you go again with your misinformation. The way WP is used can be illegal under international law. It has been well-documented by human rights organizations who have investigated the incident and also the Goldstone report that Israel used WP illegally.

Is that so? Which borders exactly? What about the population? Let us look at the population change: West Bank Settler population: 1972: 1,182 1983: 22,800 1993: 111,600 2004: 234,487 2007: 276,462 2009: 304,569 Gaza Settler population: 1972: 700 2004: 7,826 2009: 0 Golan Heights settler population: 1983: 6,800 2009: 20,000 East Jerusalem settler population: 1972: 8,649 1993: 152,800 2009: 192,000 Overall Israeli settlement population: 1972: 10,608 2004: 441,165 2009: 516,569 Despite removing 7000 settlers (and relocating them in the West Bank) by law, Israel continues to occupy Gaza, as recognized by the international community.

There seems to be a pattern with you. You say something, someone points out what you have said and then you plead that no one understands what you're saying. Lets recap: Machjo: So you think it's OK for Israel to violate international law because Hamas does so? I'd say it's not Ok for either to do so. But that's just me. -- American Woman: Yeah, and I'd say sometimes you have to fight fire with fire, "international law" be damned. -- Me: So then you are okay with Hamas' rocket attacks and suicide bombings in the past. -- American Woman: I didn't say I was "okay" with any of what's taken place, but thanks for drawing your usual moronic conclusions regarding what MY position is.

So then you are okay with Hamas' rocket attacks and suicide bombings in the past. Thank you for giving your position.

Why have your recent posts become complaints about posters trying to debate and discuss issues? Maybe it's time for you to leave this political debate forum since you keep discouraging debate about political issues.

Not it wasn't. You have failed every single time to come through in giving any legitimate list. All you've managed to do is repeat untrue allegations that don't really add up considering the methodology of the report and specific investigations. This, as it has been told to you before, only shows that you don't even know how the report was conducted and are here only to be a mouthpiece for the Hasbara (IDF propaganda machine) I repeat the truth. You repeat weightless propaganda that is continuously crushed by the truth.

Not sure. Maybe somewhere in your head where your bizarre comparisons make sense to you and your smug reaction to your own comments make you feel like a real winner.

I feel the same way. He's a disgusting person, but we shouldn't compromise freedom of speech. I do however have to disagree with your comparison between him and Coulter. Coulter was never banned. Her speech had to be canceled due to the protesters.

This is not a "Jew" issue. There are many successful Jews out there who own, control and work in the industry, but who are not purposely pushing their agenda by trying to manipulate consent through the media. This thread was created for people to see and acknowledge the pro Israeli lobby in Canada and the influence they have over the public and in the government. When Canada's security, safety and principles are compromised in order to protect another country, then I have a problem. I hope you do as well.

It's not to anyone. It's a good thing no one here has tried to excuse Hamas' violations of human rights. It's too bad yourself, Dancer and many others have tried justifying and excusing human rights violations committed by Israel. Many of these violations have been reported by HRW.

To sum up this thread; Izzy Asper, a Canadian media tycoon who at one point owned close to half of the newspaper media in Canada, was also part of the Israeli lobby in Canada. Something he didn't shy away from mentioning. Dancer failed miserably in trying to prove otherwise, so now he is back to screaming "conspiracy" and "Jew hater".