lictor616

I see, white people were hopelessly inferior to you... and so foul play MUST have been the factor right? Its not like Europeans were ever a particularly affluent people, or a people of discoverers, conquerors and inventors. Just melanin deficient cave beasts who got lucky century after century in dominating the world outright... More of the same anti-western bias and hatred dumped in our laps...

Maybe we should give a couple of billions in rice rations to the Chinese for having been oppressed by the mongols then... How about some plows and tractors for the Ukraine? you do realize how baseless your argument is right?

pure snake oil...

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especially when you consider that 7 to 9 months out of the year with freezing temperatures further complicating the distribution of tampered cloaks and covers and killing the virus ... I don't think that our ancestors would have had that demeanor either. It all seems so counter-productive ... but leftists love to quote "learned" oral tradition "speakers" ... i.e. glue sniffing natives with chips on their shoulders to defame Europeans... I agree entirely.

lol i'd love to see a citation for this...

I think that in the case of Sri Lanka and the tamils in Ceylon ... the best approach would be that of "SEPARATION AND NON-INTERVENTION MAKE THE BEST NEIGHBORS" we're not the worlds gopher.. we have no legitimate claim to interfere in their part of the world... just as they have no right to disturb the order of our country.

I was posting that to whoever inquired about the 95% number being impossible... perhaps this isn't addressed to the right poster.. ..

you know while reading your simpering nonsense, I was reminded of the following immortal and incontrovertibly true words of Thucydides: "The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." And then it got me thinking about Caledonia and Nunavut and a native welfare protest that occurred in Montreal a few months back "It is a general rule of human nature that people despise those who treat them well, and look up to those who make no concessions." maybe that explains why modern Westerners are so hated today... next you'll be saying smallpox "un-invented" the natives' technology... leftist blame shifting as usual.

corporate greed? we're talking about pre-industrial Europeans... not the crypto communist liberals of today (whom you seem in perfect ideological lockstep with) ours is a leftist economy now... right wingers don't run the show at all... liberal internationalism is the great spoiler of the world.

Canada's economy would be an asian colony if the Europeans hadn't taken it first. The natives would now own NOTHING - and their economy would still be largely composed of fur trading today without outside intervention. The indians never did or indeed: could have made any impact on the land and its resources because they possessed a stone age culture without the know how or technology to maintain more than a scarce and rudimentary (to not say primitive) culture and economy. With Japan or Russia's or China's relative proximity to north America, what on earth makes you think that the indians wouldn't have suffered the same fate (if not FAR FAR FAR WORSE) then the one they did at the hands of europeans? Remember what the chinese did to Tibetans? Imagine what the INUITS would have suffered! Of course the reason is that you see Europeans as the only malevolent people extant in the world. You're incapable of seeing the real issues.

Fenner, Frank (1988). Smallpox and Its Eradication (History of International Public Health, No. 6). Geneva: World Health Organization. http://whqlibdoc.who.int/smallpox/9241561106.pdf Smallpox killed Europeans, africans (61 000 years ago it CAME from africa) and it destroyed huge swaths of Asians, and every race known to man. In all cases smallpox never was able to completely eradicate even one village. a 95% infection AND DEATH rate is untenable... except perhaps if the Aztecs had a very different genetic makeup.... which you would probably deny because of your belief in Marxist or rather "marxian" egalitarianism (a religious marxism). and immunologists will tell you that a death rate higher then 30% for smallpox has NEVER BEEN RECORDED. Your 95% number is only meant to defame Europe's outright conquest of the land using a tiny number of themselves and a few thousand Caribbean Indians. as is evidenced by your use of quotation marks for the word "conquest" you want to make it appear as if Europeans did nothing to take the land... smallpox civilized, conquered, innovated and built and traveled Spaniards ...

the egalitarian, ONE WORLD, claptrap you simultaneously promote? the problem that you MAKE UP history and then proclaim that Westerners and their unique civilization are cancers on the commonwealth of humanity. If your version of history (that whites the only malevolent and harm causing people in the races of the world in recorded history) and the prime "doers of evil" then how can one believe in Europeans, by the irrevocable law of nature fought for limited resources (as every other living organism must) in a competing globe. However you may think this bad and wicked- it is no different the what the Mongols at one time did, or the Carthaginians, the Ancient Egyptians, the babylonians, the Chinese, the Japanese, etc etc ad infinitam...

I didn't say anything about the intentionality or lack thereof of the Spaniards to knowingly or unwittingly spread smallpox. Although the 95% death rate figure is completely untenable... the question is nugatory.

who are you to make such a pronouncement? Is your brain equipped with superior equipment to the millions of people (including eminent scholars on the subject) who have doubts and contentions on nearly ALL the issues of the holocaust?

wow you can just feel the love can't you! World peace is JUST around the corner (as soon as all Europeans are genocided of course!) doesn't that make you excited about the "happiness" being planned for westerners by our dear "fellow humans" as liberals would describe them as they fill our cities with peace loving Muslims, magnanimous mestizos, worshipful Haitians and noble Somalians! Thank you Dogonporch for showing us, as dispassionately as possible, what kind of thoughts very advanced "multicultural" minds are thinking about these days!

you really are having a laugh aren't you... I mean this very thread already has numerous slanderous posts about the evils of white people, and their institutions, technology and biology and "da wyte manne's religion" and other assorted specimens of vitriol that are simply aimed to defame and generate hostility and antipathy for "white people" and their civilization. and I love your typical dismissive, avoiding sneering responses ... "not here" I'm starting to get used to you not being able to do anything but flatly reject without qualifications or explanations.

of course, no country has "Spheroid Earth Denial Crimes" ... if one wants to be a member of the flat earth society even to debate with people... there are precisely ZERO laws in vigor to prevent such a hilarious (I admit) concept. No one will lose a job and the media will not make a big deal out of anyone claiming to believe the earth is flat- because a flat earth is easily refutable... and it WOULD be the same for the Holocaust if it was as obviously supported by irrefutable data. so the comparison with holocaust "denial" (that's an absurd weasel word- people are not denying that there was no single jew murdered or no such thing as a "holocaust") is preposterous. If I discuss the earth being flat with you CANADIEN, you probably won't get all hateful and filled with rage and throw a temper tantrum... either you will laugh or completely ignore me (by ignore i mean say not comment AT ALL).. Debating the theories openly is the only way to make them disappear (if indeed one is sure to be able to debunk them.... a "steal the thunder" type thing... but of course you will never even try, and doubtless know nothing but some of the more well known facts of the "official story"... is such an environment desirable for a secular civilized society? or does it remind you more of christian persecution of GAlileo et al.?

really wasn't expecting such rigorous debate tactics here guys, wow I guess I'm stumped...

wow excellent refutation, can I get a source on that? seriously I think you've arrested all my questions now... solid solid academia really... kudos...

under Hoover, and his Revenue Act of 1932- taxes were INCREASED- and business taxes soared to 13.75%, also the national debt in the US back then was still at ZERO despite the Depression created by banks and Internationalists. also Bush was certainly no real republican... and his spendthrift gang of criminals was far more Clintonian then anything else... and what about the no child left behind act ... the tax to repair the roofs of churches, amnesty and welfare to 13 million illegal workers.. nothing of what bush did was "conservative" "small government" or even "republican"... he was a neo con liberal internationalists....

notice of course taht you didn't ignore anything: you denied without qualifications... you simply rejected out of hand and refused to to shore up evidence or arguments...

about what? why bother responding if you're going to be this vague?

yes tiihihihihi! People who hate Western Civilization and the ethnicity that created it: so-called "white" Europeans ... you don't think they exist?

Why is it only up to Europeans to "allocate resources"? What are we lords dispensing food for our brown serfs? and why make "allocating resources" the priority? why not let those who can GET THEM THEMSELVES? i'm tired of this "assist-me" mentality...