lictor616

you're also the king of failing to rationally account for ideas and notions... and at debate in general...

you mean you can't point out to a single instance... hence you PRESUME or wild guessing... you're such a wretched little reprobate.. stop trolling and SHUT UP then... put up OR SHUT UP...

still Ad hominem tu quoque... and ad hominem circumstancials.. are you this incapable rational debate?

could you show me where... specifically please? and why do you insert a hyphen in "nonsense"?

no you said that when you talk about equality "of course" that doesn't mean that we're all the same physiologically or biologically but rather are born with similar value and equal "rights"... or something of the sort... I don't believe whites to be objectively superior to asians for instance... who are quite capable and adept at statecraft and scientifically literate (more so then "whites" perhaps today)... I generally accept the generalization that Asians (in particular northern Asiatics) have higher average IQ's then whites... so does that make me an asian supremacist? but then again... I said nothing of the superiority or inferiority of the races of man... you're the one saying that... not me.. and i,m sorry but already in our country we don't have legal equality, there are all manner of advantages that flow to blacks and other visible minority via affirmative action and other such racist policies... but of course ... you don't have anything to say about that now do you... I probably believe more in equality (legal equality) then you do in the sense that I wish that all institutions would treat everyone equally not give AA because of a certain race.

I don't pretend to be superior to anything... I merely said that a theory of complete biological equality between the various clines or "races" of man is IMPOSSIBLE... the discussion of my superiority of inferiority is another subject... and completely irrelevant here...

"the essential truth" you talk like a possessed Raelien or cult member... we're all human we all bleed red, we all have hearts... etc etc... I've all heard these lamentable excuses for equality... thats some pretty lame soft headed stuff but whatever..

ok then, so we're not genetically "the same" or "equal" then... we exhibit differences (genetically and otherwise) and hence a theory of complete biological equality between individuals or races or groups or clines... in unworkable and impossible... understood.. taht makes more sense..

equal "value"... could you get any more subjective ?! okay so you'll notice of course that that you're not denying racial differences or the Iron Law of Human Inequality... all you're saying is that (like the silly tales in the bible said) "we're all created equal" and with dignity etc (execpt perhaps for me... presumably I do not have equal value and dignity because i don't believe in human genetic equality)... expell non-whites? anti semitism? nice way to muddy the issue... try to stick to the simple task of explaining why humans (while being substantially unequal in genes and other characteristics) yet somehow ALL EQUAL...

okay "ad hominem abusive" man.... explain to my inferior brain why it is "equal" to yours... remember you're the egalitarian... you're the one insisting that no differences are extant... not me... how can people have low IQ's and still be equal...

but is a fat galss and a skinny glass THE SAME!?!!!?!161 ahahahahahaha oh my god am I seriously having this discussion... what an experience in surrealism! no no... not "of course" ... what you're saying is NOT AT ALL obvious ... equality means to be Identical or equivalent in measurable qualities and characteristics... that's the plain definition of equality. "Equity" is being just, impartial, and fair (and has nothing to do with status or describing diversity) If language is not to become mere babble to excite Egalitarian emotions... then by elementary definition IF HUMANS DISPLAY DIFFERENCES (which liberals are pleased to call DIVERSITY) then we are not THE SAME... its really astonishingly simple...

so then YOU DISAGREE WITH him then? damnit can you try to be CLEAR and CONCISE for once? and its "SAHARAN" btw...

so then equality is a fictive "value" or "idea" that we're all precisely the same... and this should be applied to the FACT of genetic diversity (and hence to the inherent and manifest INEQUALITY and DIFFERENCES that exist between groups of humans (races or clines) and individuals INSIDE these groups) in essence we should accept the theory of evolution but NOT its implications... how mature.. . The hypocrisy of the professed devotion to scientific knowledge here could scarcely be more dramatic.... the obviously innate differences between the different human races and between the individuals of any given cline is a fact... and no amount of verbiage or values will change that...

you believe there are only 2 types of humans (ie 2 RACES of humans) sub sharana afircans and non sub-saharan... and that there's alot of diversity (racial presumably) but we're all equal? is that what you believe in ?

oh I see... we're all equal... but we are diverse ... that's like a "triangular rectangle"... impossible.. you can't be equal and diverse (ie different) all at once..

oh i'm sorry that was toad brother who said in post 211: presumably he's right and i'm wrong then..

read: "i'm not here to talk about what is real... what is fact ... and what is delusion, nor am I here to justify my opinions or views or reasoning... I,m just here to lecture people on my Egalitarian belief system and how stupid others are for not believing in it"... in other words you can't argue or rationally debate.. why in the world are you here then?

I don't look at the consciousness... I look at the facts... If a poster tells me that race doesn't exist, but that there are only two types of races "sub aharan africans" which are the most diverse race in the world and non diverse - NON-sub-Saharan (as you did benny) ... and then tells me that genetic traits are inherited without any concept of heredity (so that two Northern Asians copulating together can produce a Wesley Snipes or a Nordic European type through progeny) I know that they are either a/insane b/ incredibly lacking in intelligence (so much in fact that it would be amazing for them to be capable of human speech) or c/ (and this is the most probable) lying ... and spouting nonsense they really don't believe themselves but deem it expedient to say to not pain their minds with fastidious thinking.

more ad hominem.. the trademark of the person without a valid argument... howabout answering previous posts of mine asking bioloigcal questions.. or the citations of the various studies denying your silly myth that races are figments of the imagination... you don't win the argument by attacking me personally...

try to follow... I was responding to another members post ( i quoted his post ) and told him every assertion made "therein" was fraudulant

I,d probably need 3 weeks in a gulag and the oak table leg or chinese water drop torture technique to accept these absolutely outrageous fabrications.. (which a few posts earlier are completely refuted by a few citations of eminent biologists and studies asking all biologists and anthropologists their opinion on race) its a safe bet that you will never accept reality (if it contradicts your religion of egalitarianism)... like the fundamentalist christian, you'll come up with your own "creation science" to explain away the gross errors of your beleif system...

every assertion made here is either a conscious fraud or a barefaced brazen lie... every single one.

or the recent academic fraudulence of "Black Athens" or "Black Rome" ... or Black mozart... their purpose is to defile, deride, defame and destroy... if a theory puts down Europeans, or mocks our civilization... then it is a good theory... that's how these creatures think ... We've all seen what diseased hatreds fester under the skull of these people..

cultural relativists to the extent that the culture is not WESTERN... no: they HATE the West and Europe in general... and see it as an inferior one to the others (being all equal)... I disagree with you though that our Civilization is compatible with all people... Different people and ethnicities or "clines" produce DIFFERENT civilizations and cultures... I don't think that left to themselves Australian aboriginals would have ever risen to Western standards of technology .. ever... as we know from the fact that they were in south east asia and Australia for 64 000 years ... and with this all they could produce is the "didgeridoo" and some spears... lets agree to disagree on some issues..

why even try dogonporch... benny is afflicted with a liberal hatred of our civilization... no point in reasoning with such a diseased mind...