G Huxley

Big business has its hand in both jars, which is why this isn't a left or a right issue, but rather an issue of doing the right thing in spite of big business.

What is extreme being discussed here? The only thing I can see is the further destruction of the biosphere and of Canada. ". Begin against spreading hate is actually being pro humanity. E" I just said that I'm anti humanity. Humanity is a scourge to the biosphere.

The context is right on. To be pro spread of humanity, you are anti the rest of the biosphere.

Are they any more ridiculous than bringing in everyone who has a religion, allowing anyone to practice their religion even if its insane and destructive e.g. Deut 7 or any more ridiculous than allowing religious people to discriminate against nature?

Now you're starting to get it.

"Do you want us to repeat that mistake against a different religion?" Why was it a mistake? Deuteronomy 7: "When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[b] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+7 I know if someone filled that out an immigration form I'd want them to enter my country.

No. Immigration policy should be the same as policies that allow corporations to move around the planet, human beings are people too after all." Why base human policy on corporate policy? Our global economy should be used for the benefit of our species as a whole and not for the benefit of a race." You make the same mistake. You are speciesist. You think the world is here for humans and treat the rest of it like it is of no significance. Specism is a crime against the biosphere.

"No, I wouldn't want them either. " Then you better ban Islamic people from entering the country. What about Chinese supremecists? Hindu Supremecists? etc. etc. What about liberal/left wing supremecists?

"So we kick out everyone who has a religion?" It would be a good start. "We figured this out a while back: It's called 'freedom of religion'." This was a mistake. It should be freedom from religion. "And freedom from religious discrimination." Then we must ban religious people from entering this country as all religion discriminates.

Because religion is a major problem in the world.

Well to be fair since it seems females are for open borders it would be only a logical result of what they themselves supported.

If it worked for 1000 years, it's probably a tried tested and true strategy. Why try to fix a system if it isn't broken? Why do you want more religious people in Canada? Why not more atheists?

It also spreads by massive family sizes. So mathematically Islam will win out.

"Not very realistic." It's not realistic to defend one's borders? How come it's very realistic for Japan and other countries? "And we do have to accommodate people pushed off their land/out of their country for resisting Canadian corporate operations overseas." No, we should deal with those Canadian corporations.

There is hope for immigrants after all: https://www.rt.com/uk/342926-russia-free-land-poll/

Depends on your concept of race. The idea of black v. white as race is silly. I'm opposed to all immigration except maybe spouses and a few very excellent specialists who can bring something exceptional to Canada or who are chosen by communities.

Why is it discrimination to want to choose who enters your country? Is it discrimination when Japan or China or most other nations do it?

As opposed to Islamic supremicists?

The right doesn't want white people either, because they would ask for higher wage. This isn't a left or right issue.

Jacee: Or just subcontract out to some dubious types. Ice: The problem is you are looking at it from a humanist perspective while ignoring that we are only one of numerous species on the earth. Have we helped ourselves? Yes at the expense of the rest of the biosphere. So we are a scourge.

Yep. + Now they have it really easy. It used to be you had to send ships out to get people to toil for you, now they come themselves in ships.

There is, its called Neoliberalism/globalization.

What a nice saccharine fantasy you inhabit.

What was wrong with my actual Canadian neighbour next door?

" High birth rates have very little to do with culture. High birth rates have to do with poverty. As cultures climb out of poverty, the birth rate declines. Canada used to have a much higher birthrate when it was poor, too. http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-630-x/11-630-x2014002-eng.htm " Poverty will not be eradicated, unless by robotics. The neoliberal capitalist system needs poverty to function. " But People, in general, are an asset. They work, they produce, they contribute. Unfortunately, Canada's declining birth rate opened the door... in fact, REQUIRED... the importation of such assets from the rest of the world. " No people are not an asset. They are a scourge to the environment. " Canada is a long, long from the point in the X-curve where the additional benefits of people are outrun by their costs." Because you are looking at this from a monetary anthropocentric attitude. Even at 30+ million the environment is grossly overtaxed here by our society and Canadians per capita use a much higher number of resources than other countries so the effect is multipled multiple times.