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Then, just ask Harper don't release a news about Afghan prisoner torture to pretend he has find a reason for skipping his hypocritical human right lecture in China.

What is their behave in Korea in 1950s, if they have so able enough, why they can not win Mao in that small place instead of a large china?

He led Chinese people stopped the one-century-long robbery started by England since 1848, drive all robbers away no matter they from Japan, Europe, North America, or Australia. The robbery had convert china that produce one third of the world production into a hell.

If you ask for your personal interest or your career. I need not to answer again. I have no interest to change your career future. If you ask for your error knowledge obtained by what you learned in school and what you heard from media, you can find it by research in a seriously scientific manner.

Because you were tell lie, you make them angry, they did not mean to kill you, they just express their anger, even you go to China to tell them there, they may angry, they will not kill you. you will be safe. As you wish. That is your choice. You are always free to make decision based on lies. I don't trust any western politician. I can always find some Chinese politician that I can somewhat trust. Abu Ghraib torture or Afghan prisoner torture by Canada? Of course.

The first culture I have learned here is to blame others.

He is the one who saved China from western robbers and destroyers.

All those have CIA behind them. Most are lies except some crimes that occurs everywhere in the world. Need not repeat what I have already posted several times. Need not to repeat post what western countries did crime in the world, it is just more than too many.

What you talk about China is based on lies. And Russia is a country with western culture.

About nice: In China, near everyone can say, a person is nice when he was born. They are born nice, at least they believe so. However, your bible said you were born with sin. So you believe you are no longer nice since you were born. About Murderous: China had been the most powerful culture in the world for thousands of years, they did not kill most local people which western nations did in North America, in some places in south Africa, and many other places. Wherever they go, they do business with goods produced in China instead of guns, although China is the place that invent gun powder. About destroy of culture: China has many ethnic groups, they enjoy their own culture, speak different language, if you can only speak Mandarin, you will find you can not understand in Shanghai, If you can speak Shanghai language, you will find you will not be able to understand what people said in Shichuan. There are hundreds of opera in different languages. While in North America, Is any of English, French, Spanish can be regard as native culture? How many kind of opera do you have? In Soviet Union related countries, which one speak non-Russian now? It is very clear who destroy cultures. About Religions: Native religions in China are all about hide far away from others. They choose very quiet place in mountains to build their temples. In china's history, countless religions were peacefully stay together, they are still there now. They did not attacking Christian when they came to China more than 100 years ago. I have only heard western religion want to kill other religions. In summary, China's culture is about nice and tolerance, even in their war strategy books, it emphasis on conquer without war. Think about what your culture teaches you.

More interesting articles: U.S. Grows More Dependent on China By GABOR STEINGART and WIELAND WAGNER http://abcnews.go.com/International/america-depends-china-financial-crisis/story?id=9062103 Understanding China By Martin Jacques http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-jacques22-2009nov22,0,6682428.story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Muu0tNsw8&feature=player_embedded

I mean the $8000 per person US health cost is totally rely on their debt. They use their children's money to pay their cost, if not, they have only one other choice, rob more from the world through wars, and IMF, World Bank, WTO. Is Canada able to do these?

In US, Assets per citizen is $241,498, Liability per citizen is $344,885, http://www.usdebtclock.org/ They have China, Japan, UK to buy their treasury security. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

1. According to the original document you mentioned http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/cm-vee/csca-ecve/pdf/childabuse_final_e.pdf (2003): It is not the case as you said "If a child is beaten daily with whatever object their parent finds at hand," in post #100 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=13562&view=findpost&p=483639 And what is the definition of sex-abuse? A father help his infant daughter to take a bath? 2. The data is collected from CAS cases, a corporation with no accountability and does not allow Ombudsman to investigate, how much creditability it has? 3. After this document released, I guess CAS had make full use of it to take kids cruelly for money that lead to Ontario Bill 88 (2006) ( ask for allowing the Ontario Ombudsman to investigate the Children's Aid Societies (C.A.S.))

http://www.kelowna.com/2009/11/19/health-care-spending-in-canada-to-hit-183-1-billion/ Need some audit or study?

How many such cases happen in a year? If there are such cases, it will be on news. We have not heard too many of this kind of news each year. I think it is less than 10 cases a year in Canada. But only in Ontario, there are 30k kids "in care" that cost more than 1.5 billion each year only for CAS. that is 1 kid in each 100 children in the province. Are all those 30k kids beaten daily with whatever object their parents find in hand? Why they just don't allow Ombudsman to investigate? What they fear of? I guess it may take more than 10 billion each year waste by CAS in Canada. If we use this money to stimulus economy, lots of workers can have job again. The main purpose of CAS is money, they use extreme examples for raising more money from tax payers, the make money from children's tears, they are evils.

The task should be “how to minimize family violence with minimum cost”. Zero tolerance should not be the answer. Zero crime rate should be the goal. Zero tolerance means only the inability of politicians that they are not able to find a peaceful solution. Tolerance should be a good manor for everyone, parents tolerate their kids, kids tolerate their parents, society tolerate families and tolerate people with unfavorable behaviors. This is a kind of respect that would make our environment more peaceful. To do this, universities should study what is the deep social reason behind unfavorable behaviors and how to solve those problems and remove the problem behavior from those people with kindly and peaceful methods instead of simply and roughly using one crime to deal with another crime according to the happening of an unfavorable behavior just like what criminals do. Human right should not mean punishing people that have problems, it should be making those people model citizens.

If 1. CAS has steady funding and the number of the children in their care will not affect their income. and 2. Ontario Ombudsman is allowed to investigate CAS and the managers, supervisors, intake workers, the child protection workers and police involved. and 3. There are people in CAS be charged who has made false allegations that cause innocent parents been jailed or imprisoned or innocent children been adopted or placed in foster care. then I will not object them.

One meal starve every week will not cause any harm to anyone. It should be handled by an organization that the number of the children in their care will not affect their income. In that caee, they will have no motivation to attack innocent families.

I think it is OK if it has not cause child often catch illness. That can be one of the education method or philosophy. It is a choice of the family. Those are crimes, should be handled by police. It is better still put the kids home when another parent is available. If need to take away, it is better not handled by CAS, because CAS is corporation with no accountability and has caused many kids suicide and accidental death each year and with records of abuse and sex-abuse in their care.

1.1) If a parent abuse a child not hard, it cause one person has some harm. It is not good, if there is wound, it will cure very soon. 1.2) If CAS abuse a family, 3 family members (father, mother, and the kid) will be harmed for years. If kid be take away, the problem will go to other families and bring more people involved. And tax payer will start to pay $87 a day. At least 5 people's normal life will be harmed or affected strongly plus extra cost wasted that can contribute to the cost level of production in Canada. (Ontario CAS cost more than 1.4 billion a year, not include related court cost, police cost, jail cost, lawyer cost, and others) 2) No family can cause deaths of thousands kids as government involved: "Thousands of children died in this manner in the Indian Residential Schools, and not one person in Canada has ever been charged for the death of a child there, or brought to trial. The government is even forbidding names of perpetrators to be named. We will not allow these churches to get away with murder. We call upon others to come forward and name those responsible for the death and torture of innocent children in the residential schools." http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/RecentUpdatesampArticles/May272009MurderatResidentialSchoolDescribed/tabid/99/Default.aspx

I did not plan to post anything today before I saw Melanie_'s reply on my post.

I don't think it is good if parent actually abuse their kids. However, I do believe parent abuse kids bring less social problems than CAS abuse families.