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90 kids die under the care of Ontario's CAS: http://www.thestar.com/article/591523 I believe most of the 90 kids won't die if there is no CAS. The function of CAS is cost TAX and victimize kids.

Immigration is another area only for Lawyers to earn money. That is the reason why Canada has so many immigrants. Canada failed in uses the power of immigrant, actually, they could be the engine to make Canada economic miracle that never happened. See how crude Canada treat immigrants, it is not only crude to immigrants, but also to the residents that need services, and because immigrant can not make money they should be able to, a large sum of money did not generated that could become purchase power that could make other worker's life easier, therefore the government lost Tax and need to use other's Tax to support immigrants, take a look at the following story: Yale grad can't find work http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2009/02...474281-sun.html

Please take a look at the following site to see how those 3rd world standard can compare with the city you are currently living. Or if possible, plan a visit to China to see more if you don't just pick up only something like the homeless people wandering around Toronto's city hall all year long as the most main steam media here enjoy in or indulge with. http://www.pbase.com/mgk54/random_pictures_of_shanghai http://www.pbase.com/fangorangutang/beijing&page=all http://www.pbase.com/mobby/shenzhen&page=all http://www.pbase.com/markuseichenberger/be...lympic_stadiums http://www.pbase.com/contikiwarren/shanghai&page=all http://www.pbase.com/tientai/shanghai&page=all http://www.savagexi.com/2007/07/19/what-to-do-in-shanghai/ http://china20.thechinabusinessnetwork.com...earl-tower.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongqing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi%27an http://www.discoveryangtze.com/Yangtzedisc.../zhengjiang.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%27anshan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guiyang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingdao http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuhai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenzhen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingyao http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xining http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiamen

CAS cost many family a lot of money on rent additional house, lawyer costs, and others. CAS cost everyone more than $100 a year from tax (Data for Ontario only) They do things not good. http://rally4accountability.webs.com/Ottaw...519207_7635.jpg http://rally4accountability.webs.com/Ottaw...3519218_969.jpg http://rally4accountability.webs.com/Ottaw...519203_6457.jpg

I don't think government can always spend tax dollars efficiently. I think tax can be waste in many places. I have heard a story: a police officer goes to a house and wait for half an hour just to tell the person in the house that his dog barked 10 minutes earlier and some neighbor has called. Another example is what I saw, some fire fighters drive with alarm light flashed in crowded King st west near University Street (Toronto) in rush hour just for pour some water to a tree. And there are other examples: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/200...ildrensaid.html http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/200...ntario-cas.html http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....mp;#entry392129

The reason is Harper has broken good Canada-China relationship. Canada started business with China earlier than most other industrial countries, now it has only a very small portion in China's import/export amount. Actually, there are still large business opportunities in China now, if Canada ignores it, other countries will profit on it.

Top 50 Banks of the World by market value Company Country MCap $b 1 Indl & Coml Bank of China China 173.9 2 China Construction Bank China 128.3 3 JP Morgan Chase US 117.7 4 HSBC UK 115.2 5 Bank of China China 98.2 6 Wells Fargo US 98.0 7 Banco Santander Spain 75.0 8 Bank of America US 70.6 9 Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Japan 70.1 10 BBVA Spain 45.1 11 Intesa Sanpaolo Italy 44.1 12 U. S. Bancorp US 43.6 13 UBS Switzerland 40.9 [b]14 Royal Bank Canada Canada 40.9[/b] 15 BNP Paribas France 38.3 16 Citigroup US 36.6 17 Bank of Communications China 34.6 18 Westpac Banking Australia 34.1 19 Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Japan 32.7 20 Unicredito Italiano Italy 32.4 21 Mizuho Financial Japan 31.8 22 Banco Itau Brazil 30.8 23 Credit Suisse Switzerland 30.4 [b]24 Toronto Dominion Bank Canada 29.8[/b] 25 Commonwealth Bank of Australia Australia 29.6 26 Societe Generale France 29.1 27 Bradesco Brazil 28.0 28 Royal Bank of Scotland UK 28.0 29 National Australia Bank Australia 27.2 [b]30 Bank of Nova Scotia Canada 27.2[/b] 31 China Merchants Bank China 26.4 32 Hang Seng Bank Hong Kong 25.1 33 Credit Agricole France 24.8 34 Standard Chartered UK 23.8 35 ANZ Banking Australia 23.0 36 Al Rahji Banking Saudi Arabia 22.4 37 Deutsche Bank Germany 22.1 38 China CITIC Bank China 19.3 39 Barclays UK 18.5 40 Nordea Bank Sweden 18.0 41 PNC Financial Services US 17.1 42 Resona Holdings Japan 16.9 43 State Bank Of India India 16.8 44 Banco Brasil Brazil 16.0 45 Sberbank of Russia Russia 16.0 46 UniBanco Brazil 15.8 [b]47 CIBC Canada 15.8[/b] 48 Lloyds TSB UK 15.5 49 BB&T US 15.2 50 Standard Bank Group South Africa 13.7 http://finmanac.blogspot.com/2009/01/top-5...rket-value.html

China poised to be world’s largest auto market Slump in U.S. sales has make country catch up quicker than anticipated http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29022484

What is the meaning of Canadian product? "GM", "Ford", "Chrysler" assembled by Canadian Auto Workers are American product or Canadian product? Even for made in China product, How much percentage are earn by China, How much percentage are earned by Canadian business men and logistics firms?

Canada's Extradition Laws Help Make Vancouver a Grifter's Haven By Doug Struck Washington Post Foreign Service Thursday, March 22, 2007; Page A15 The Washington Post - The Chinese government has been trying to get Lai Changxing for seven years, repeatedly demanding that Canada hand over the man who tops China’s most-wanted list. Lai does not want to go. The once-rich businessman, alleged by China to have run a vast bribery and smuggling empire, is unsure what would happen if he returned. “I don’t know if I will be dragged around and shot, or beaten, or poisoned,” he mused in an interview. So while lawyers argue his case, Lai stays, biding time in a Vancouver apartment. He has company: The city is home to a wide cast of people who are either wanted by the law somewhere on white-collar charges or trying hard to avoid such attention. Vancouver prefers to revel in politically correct politics, a squeaky-clean environmental image, and a laid-back mood fostered by persistent melancholy rain. But it also is a haven for some of the most wanted fugitives in the world and for con men working scams in the shadow of the law. “Grifters tend to gravitate to the end of the line. Vancouver is kind of the end of the line,” said David Baines, a veteran reporter for the Vancouver Sun who writes about stock schemes and white-collar crooks in this westernmost province. Eight years ago, Forbes magazine described Vancouver as the “scam capital of the world.” Authorities have cleaned up some of that and closed the largely unregulated Vancouver Stock Exchange, which did a Wild West trade in problem stocks. But Baines said the legacy remains. “There was a cadre of facilitators — accountants, lawyers, brokers — that someone has called an ‘infrastructure of chicanery.’ It remains,” Baines said. Much of this centers on penny stocks, often worthless financial paper traded on the U.S. over-the-counter market. These stocks are sold by salesmen in high-pressure boiler-room telephone or Internet solicitations. When the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission announced “Operation Spamalot” this month, stopping trading of 35 companies at the center of spam e-mail promotions, one-third of them had connections to British Columbia, the province where Vancouver is located. Authorities here estimate that 500 of approximately 4,000 companies traded on the U.S. over-the-counter bulletin board and another penny stock listing service called the “Pink Sheets” can be traced back to Vancouver and British Columbia. The companies variously claim to have huge car inventories, hot mining prospects, technological breakthroughs, medical miracles, valuable real estate and other exciting assets, which often are inflated in value or nonexistent. Their promoters operate here in part to take advantage of the border, said Martin Eady, director of corporate finance for the British Columbia Securities Commission. Canadian regulators rarely get complaints from victims, because most of them are in the United States. And U.S. regulators are wary of trying to crack down on companies based in Canada. “It becomes inherently more difficult to investigate and to prosecute when it is cross-border,” Eady said. “It lengthens everything by a factor of at least 100 percent.” Though the scams are often small-scale, they can give Vancouver a bad reputation for all business dealings, he said. “These perpetrators should not feel they can reside in one place, victimize people in other places, and get away with it.” But they do. The gathering of suspect characters in Vancouver is encouraged by Canada’s lengthy legal procedures concerning deportation, which can forestall expulsion for years. Lawyer Gary Botting, author of two textbooks on extradition, said Canada’s lengthy process is intended to ensure that people are not sent to sham trials, execution or torture. He defends the system, but acknowledges that wealthy fugitives can delay their expulsion for long periods through exhaustive appeals. “There’s a lot of money involved in the high-profile cases,” he said. “There’s definitely a different system for the rich who can afford counsel to explore every loophole.” Lai, for example, chose to flee to Vancouver when he heard that Chinese prosecutors were about to swoop down on him and his family in 1999. Chinese authorities say he ran an expansive smuggling operation generating many millions of dollars and bribed local officials in Xiamen, in the southeastern province of Fujian. A special prosecuting unit in China has obtained 14 convictions and death sentences concerning the alleged scheme, eight of which have been carried out. Lai’s brother died in a Chinese prison after Chinese agents had brought him to Vancouver in an unsuccessful bid to lure Lai back to China. Lai’s continued presence has been uncomfortable for the Canadian government, which wants improved trading relations with China. The government there regularly demands his return, along with several other Chinese fugitives, bank officials who also fled to Vancouver. China has pledged not to impose the death penalty on Lai, but his attorney, David Matas, said Canada should not trust promises from a country where legal safeguards are absent. “The problem here is not the Canadian system. It’s the Chinese system. If they were not torturing people and executing people, he’d be back in a shot,” Matas said. Lai, 48, listened through an interpreter. He said he is living off the contributions of friends and has lost all of the riches he once enjoyed. But he acknowledged that the laws here have let him avoid a forced return to China. In coming to Vancouver, he said, “I think I made the right choice.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7032102326.html http://www.chineseinvancouver.ca/tag/fugitive/

Five fugitives hiding in Canada, China says GEOFFREY YORK BEIJING -- A bank manager who allegedly stole $150-million from his customers is just one name on a list of at least five fugitives China is demanding be extradited from Canada, published reports say. The existence of four other criminal suspects on the list is the latest development in a growing controversy over whether Canada is sheltering Chinese fugitives. Chinese and Canadian authorities are refusing to confirm the existence of the list. But the Chinese media are giving heavy coverage to the issue, creating an impression that Canada is providing a haven to suspects fleeing China. China's state-controlled news agency has already confirmed that Beijing is asking Canada for the extradition of Gao Shan, former manager of a Bank of China branch in northeastern China, who is accused of embezzling $150-million from the accounts of his customers. Mr. Gao, who fled to Canada in early 2005, is under RCMP surveillance somewhere in Western Canada, according to Chinese reports. One of his associates, Li Dongzhe, is also reportedly under police surveillance in Canada. But two years after allegedly transferring his stolen money to Canada and disappearing from Chinese territory, Mr. Gao is still not in police custody, sources say. Two Chinese newspapers have reported that Canada dispatched police investigators to China last month to gather evidence in the Gao case. The Canadian police interviewed a Chinese businessman, Zhang Xiaoguang, whose company had about $45-million stolen from its bank account. Spokesmen for the RCMP and the Canadian embassy in Beijing will not confirm any details of the extradition requests. The identities of the four other fugitives on the Chinese list are unknown. The Chinese reports gave new details of how Mr. Gao plotted his escape to Canada after embezzling the funds. His last appearance at the bank was on Dec. 29, 2004, when he told colleagues that he planned to visit a doctor in Beijing. He also claimed his wife was studying for a graduate degree in psychology at a Beijing university. In reality, his wife and son were already living in Canada, and Mr. Gao never intended to visit a doctor in Beijing. Instead, he flew secretly to Canada to join his family. Meanwhile, concern is mounting in China about both white-collar fugitives and alleged corrupt government officials who have found shelter in Canada in recent years. The most famous of the these is Lai Changxing, the alleged ringleader of a smuggling organization that evaded billions of dollars in taxes. He is regarded as China's most-wanted fugitive. He fled to Canada in 1999, sought refugee status, and has been fighting extradition ever since. The Lai case has damaged relations between Canada and China, with Chinese authorities increasingly angry and convinced that Canada should do more to deport him. Canada and China do not have an extradition treaty -- mainly because of China's poor human-rights record and its history of executing thousands of people every year. In individual cases, Canada can agree to deport a suspect to China, but negotiations can be difficult. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...rnational/Asia/ http://www.ottawacitizen.com/story_print.h...63&sponsor=

Lai Changxing granted work permit in Canada Nearly a decade after fleeing China in the face of smuggling and corruption charges, Lai Changxing continues to surface in the media every time there's another twist to his marathon legal battle in Canada. Several of today's newspapers, including the New Culture View, reported that Lai was recently granted a temporary work permit by Canadian immigration authorities. The move may inflame the lingering anger of some in China who believe that Canada is sheltering the fugitive from receiving the punishment he deserves. Canada has hesitated to extradite Lai to China for fear that he would be executed; the newspaper's article, which is a republication of a Global Times summary of Canadian media reports, does not mention the death sentence issue. Lai is regard as one of the World's most wanted white-collar fugitives. There are many other fugitives stay in Canada such as Gao Shan. See also: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/08/29/f...hitecollar.html http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/.../18/bc-lai.html http://www.chineseinvancouver.ca/tag/gao-shan/

Take a look at the following case: ------------------------------------------------------- Beeble Beeble Posts: 1 From: Burns Lake B.C. Registered: 9/18/08 (309 of 315) Re: Children's Aid Society Corruption Sep 22, 2008 3:51 AM The nightmare never ends. I have a granddaughter that was Born in B.C.. Her mom (My daughter) took her to live with her grandfather (my X). He said there was a job waiting for my daughter and they could stay with him. Well the job was not there. When my daughter went to visit my granddaughters dad . My daughters dad showed up and dropped all their stuff off and said he could not afford to help her. After talking her into coming across Canada. So she went to the government agency to get help so she can get a place for her and her daughter. Instead the government called children`s aid with in 24 hours they took my granddaughter said the house was not safe for her. My daughter moved to a place that they approved, but that was not go enough for them . They wanted her and the babies dad to go to parent classes so they did that ,but that was not go enough either. Then we fined out that because they were only in Ontario for a month and a half they were not resident of Ontario. They have to be living in a provence for at least three month before they become a resident of that Provence. Then they told us it was to late to do anything about it. Not one of the lawyers said a world about this law. I believe they had her already picked for a family because now matter what hoops my daughter jump through it was not good enough for them . Remembrance day is the day the court took her from our family. Now we have to wait till she is eighteen before we can look for her. She is only five this year. ------------------------------------------------------- from http://boards.aetv.com/thread.jspa?threadI...892&start=0

1. I think most parent that said to be abusive loves their kids. Some just for education, others may just happen to not control themselves very well just like drive after drinking. Those are simply accidents. They are not intentionally abuse their kids. However, once kids are put into "in care" system, they become really under an environment that near the worst small part of the society that full of real abuse, ignorance, lies, criminal, violence, drugs. That will definitely change the whole life of the kids. We need to study. We already have the statistics said only 24% kids under such system can graduate from high school. Did anyone do some study on if a group of kids that are reported abused, after that, CAS and police and the court system do nothing, how many can graduated from high school even college, how many be killed, how many suicide? How many becomes criminals. Although these is no statistics now, I think we can compare this with a country that has no so strick CAS, such as Japan, Korea, or others to see if only 24% graduated. I believe they will have a much better result. There is a theory, some doctors say the best way to recovery from a disease is by one's own immunization system, so if we can live without medicine, we'd better do that and try to recover with better living habit, better food, and others. So I think maybe the best way is just let it be. It is better for a "mature" society make decision or legislation based on study with scientific methods such as statistics, instead of just by opinion after emotionally publish one or two cases on the media. 2. For crime, we have police, I think they can handle. 3. If you think something must be done, I think maybe police can send them a warning and keep a record that if they will be found the second time, they will be charged. 4. For the kids really need foster care, I believe this is better be handled by a government department that their salary has nothing to do with the number of the kids "in care", this would avoid any business organization making profit on children tears. With the large budge saved from CAS (In Ontario 1.2billion a year), children care system can use it to help poor kids. For the kids living in poverty, when CAS take "in care", they ask for $87 a day from tax payers, that money is far more than enough for help kids living with their parents and improve the living condition.

No, my main opinion is CAS should be cut because it makes not only so many family suffered, but also so many kids victimized and become poor educated and criminalized. This has nothing to do with this topic although I am glad all my kids are very well and receiving better education than average Canadian kids. However, a lot of other kids are not so lucky, here is some examples: http://vimeo.com/766883?pg=embed&sec=766883 http://vimeo.com/1018929?pg=embed&sec=1018929

After it is put into law, what are you going to do? Are you going to make enough advertisement to let every Canadian know this and make every potential immigrant know this, or simply try to hide it so that CAS can catch more kids, cops can have more work to do, lawyers can have more cases so that all involved can earn more money and leave more kids in correction system so that again the court system can get more benefits?

The main job of CAS is collect evidence and convert kids into "In care" kids. In Ontario, about 30000 kids are in CAS's care, how many employees they have? it is impossible for them to have time to do anything but collect evidence. After that, they can send kids to foster care, and then repeat collect evidence. Or they talk to kids regularly, with the most ugly things human being can do like, do your parents beat you? have you sex abused? Did you tried to kill yourself... These kind of questions have been asked to lots of kids who knows nothing of that and have the first chance in their life to understand such ugly things that make them familiar and feel natural. They made the kids in their care become special in school that teachers and others look them differently to increase the psychological pressure on them. Teachers and other kids can often see them be picked away by principle by interrupt whatever they are doing. So that it is not surprised that result is only 24% children in their care can graduate from high school while 36% end up in correction system according to a report from BC. ( http://www.lawsociety.bc.ca/publications_f...blic-forum.html ) And this does not make CAS stop their access to children and parents, how can this not be consider as they are totally ignore the future of the kids? Add an audio story: http://www.archive.org/download/subwayride/subway.mp3

If as you said, then why not just write this into Constitution as "Only rich people can have children. Those who don't have enough money have no human right to have child"? Or simply add a new criminal code to arrest all parents that are not rich enough?

But CAS don't think so. They can send someone to your home and come with cops to take the kids you love away.

That is the reason that Canada need more immigrants. And with CAS exists, some who have kids have to flee abroad to seek safe environment and better education.

From the website of Ontario Coalition for Better Child Care ( http://www.childcareontario.org/?p=970 ), I saw 22,000 affordable child care spaces are at risk. I hope CAS ( Children's aid socity) will be cut. Only in Ontario, CAS obtain more than $1.2 billion each year from tax payer. For each child in care from CAS, they take $87 a day. More than one child from every 100 Ontario children is "in care" from CAS now. The children in CAS care have less chance graduate from high school and have more chance to end in correction system. And the suicide rate is significantly higher when a child in care by CAS than normal kids. Actually, I think CAS cares only collect evidence to take more and more kids in their care so that they can ask for more and more money from government. They have no time to care about children’s future and other things good to children. They take more than $100 from every Ontario person each year. They take 1.2 billion a year while real child care's budget has not come yet. (Ontario Coalition for Better Child Care) If 22000 Ontario children grow up in poverty, how many new problems include crime will be generated? Did CAS actually do something on this? No, this is certainly not as important compare with their own high salary and the systems that can keep their organization take more money. I think CAS is the most harmful thing to the health of Canadian children. Their budget should be cut to use in a better area that deserve.