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What a nice plan. Bye bye Gun Registry, weapon industry will earn more. Tougher sentences, legal system will earn more.

rofl, they are not so stupid to remove such an unimportant small guy. :-)

I found someone whose opinion can support my understandings: [ Quote ] The following is by Bob Chapman in his article Current Volatility Hints At Next Crash posted October 25, 2008. I couldn't have said it better myself! "Never underestimate the diabolical ingenuity of the Illuminati. They have been perfecting their techniques for a millennium. They plan decades in advance, and conduct test runs to see how people and markets will react to different types of stresses and manipulations. They see to it that any legislation necessary to achieve their evil objectives is adopted far in advance of the implementation of their criminal schemes to inflict constant and continual fraud on the sucker-dupe sheople." "They handpick politicians who can be bribed or who are compromised and then see to their election, thus ensuring that any such legislation is passed by their puppets in government. They act as our "shadow government," pulling the strings of our official marionettes so as to legalize and legitimize their foul acts before carrying out what would otherwise be deemed maleficent acts of criminality, thus ensuring the successful completion of their various shell games and Ponzi schemes. And if they are unable to pass legislation which would legitimize any part of their intended criminal actions, they needn't worry in any case, because they have the regulators and courts in their back pockets." "All their efforts are funded by the profits and plunder which they have raped, pillaged and extorted from the people of the world over many centuries of criminal activity, which nefarious dealings include such things as wars for profit, incitement of civil wars and race wars, genocide, murders for profit, gun-running, illicit drug trade, extortion, protection rackets, slavery, prostitution, illegal monopolies and every imaginable fraud and deceitful scheme ever conceived by men, with European, debt-based, fractional reserve banking being the lynchpin of the heinous system they have devised to achieve the total financial impoverishment and abject enslavement of the sheople." "The Illuminati own our President and his Cabinet, both Houses of Congress, the judiciary and the media, large portions of state and local governments, as well as the CEO's and directors of most transnational conglomerates and Wall Street banks and financial institutions. The same is true for all major nations that are a part of Western Civilization, and many nations outside the West are being bent to their will in a variety of ways by utilizing such things as the United Nations, the IMF, the BIS, the WTO and the World Bank to extort what they want from these nations and to plunder their resources." Read the full article here. http://stopthenorthamericanunion.com/Volatility.html Hold on to your socks! [ /Quote ] The understanding of this in my posts are here:

http://www.billc6.com/www/stopc6/legal.htm

Here are some people have opinions on this topic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd_LE-MZ-vA

I don't know if they intentionally put lysteria in their meat or not although I guess you are right they did not do that intentionally. That can not change the fact that someone die because of the meat produced in their factory. That problem is not so easy to be solved by grant some inspectors more power of unlimited access private properties.

The similarity of them is they both cause people death. And the police state legislation can not eliminate them, it cause other problems more harmful.

Quite a lot. I can not know it before I need it. I have gone to emergency department of a hospital twice when take someone else, and waiting there for more than 9 hours for 5 minutes checking by a doctor hearing kids crying there all night long. For myself, I have gone to see a family doctor once have come back and telephone him to make appointment and went there again waiting for an hour for his 5 minutes and he don't give me strong medicines that easily obtain in china when I had same problem (flu). After that, I never go to hospital for myself, several times when I have flu again, I go to shop to find some green onion, ginger, and brown sugar, cook them together and drink it. When I have cough, I buy some pear to eat. I can also goto website located in China and find more information how to prevent such ills though health food and other activities. If most food that has natural health effect disappeared from the shops, the family doctor waiting time will be even longer.

Canadian law makers and police is really genius in creative thinking. When thief steal from shop, they charge the shopkeeper. When one company cause problem, they punish all people.

Can your so called “fascist Canada” prevent these things from happen by inspectors? Then why Maple Leaf Meat issue still happen and causes even more death than melamine milk in china? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/world/as...3.19601372.html http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/119305.phpWhat happened after that? Anyone in the company take the charge? So, because Maple Leaf Meat cause the problem, now the freedom of other companies that have never cause problem should be taken away, to make sure the large companies who dominate the markets still have chance to cause problems again. Your baby foolish people don’t know what will harm to yourselves, need police state laws to assault you further, so that inspectors can search you private properties any time they want with no reason, need take more tax money to build jails and hire cops, need out-law most natural products from the market so that large companies can make even more money. Is that the logic you want to tell me?

Falun Gong is not an organization of ordinary people, They are fighters/army connected with US government. http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers2/paper198.htmBy the way:

People should have right to do anything, that is all about freedom and human right mean. government should have no right at all unless people grant some to it unless it is a dictator or kingdom. That is none of the business of government. They seeking for better life, better health, they take risk themselves with their braveness. That is all the reason the new discovery and invention comes. It makes society progress and have many different culture. Government is not the father of people, and people are not babies. Police state theory.

Politicians believes no education, no peace, no kindness to people who are not perfect, no convert them to gentle men. They believes to "crack down" others with power, with violence, with bully. What's the difference with the methods criminals uses, they don't want to find the deep reason that cause all the problems and find solutions, because many problems are caused by themselves, they want help interest groups to robber people through legislation and they have their own need in their own political career.

No solution, maybe real democracy, it seems impossible in the world.

Police seems more like to help CAS to catch innocent vulnerable parents especially single mothers to take their kids away and make up materials to accuse them. this can also give the opportunity to try pepper spray as well. They also enjoy in tell resident that his dog bark 10 minutes earlier then 9 o'clock which can easily spent half an hour or one hour or more than that. They enjoy ask kids show their IDs. They enjoy use taser guns at those who can not speak English such as Robert Dziekański. And make up materials to accuse shopkeepers. And they need new legislation to keep them busy so that they always have no time to deal with lower priority issues.

Ok, it is here: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....showtopic=15238

Thanks for Hardner's suggestion: http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/12.05.2008The following is from CBC: http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/05/29/...l-products.html http://commonground.ca/iss/202/cg202_bill_C-51.shtml http://danieltowsey.wordpress.com/2008/05/...-a-health-bill/The following content is from Bill C-51 http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/P...&File=84#20The interest groups never stop their effort to push the legislation to robber money from people after C-51, here comes C-52, C6 http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/canadians-...watch-back-door http://www.billc6.com/www/stopc6/ http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2009..._as_bill_c6.htmHow similar this with CAS case, if a CAS social worker’s “belief” you are not qualified as a parent, they can take children away. So that they can do whatever they want to do. This is so called “human right” in Canada. http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/topics/alter...e/191?task=viewSome other links: http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2008/05/10/...-food-products/ http://www.geraldkeddy.ca/EN/mp%27scomment...ealth_products/ http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/20...th_products.htm http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11529874237

Do you know if there is any Canadian dead from natural product, Do you mind show me the the case. If no one, why you don't worry you can be dead on street due to traffic accident, so it is better to make a law to ban anyone walking or driving in the street because that is much more dangerous than natural products. While in the cases CAS involved, there are more than 90 kids dead each year only in Ontario include lots of suicides. This number does not include the number of suicide of their parents who suffered huge physiological sadness after they lost their kids. It is obviously, those parents lost their basic human right in Canada. Just like those thousands of Canadian parents whose kids dead in residential schools, far much more be abused there. And no one is able to use normal abduction law to sue the CAS and police involved in that. It is obvious the only goal of C51 is to take away from people the freedom and the right to obtain cheap alternative health solution so that big medical firm can dominate market to control medicine price to take huge money from ordinary people. There are so many issues make Canada a dangerous and poor human right situation place, the law makers don't care, even don't allow anyone include an Ombudsman to investigate the poor situation for so many years, does the government care about human right in Canada, NO, nowhere in any place of the world they care, They care about only money. Human right is not for people, when politicians try to use the terminology, it has to be some interest behind that. That's it.

OK let me talk in this way. Why we need C51, it is said to restrict natural health products. Then, 1. How many people die of natural health products in Canada each year? 2. How many people commit suicide after CAS involved into their private family things? (include how many are after use antidepressants recommended by them that makes medical firms earns a lot.) I believe who want to push the legislation should give these two numbers first and compare them first to see which should have priority.

So after they restricting sale, where can ordinary people buy it when they need? They need to plan it in their own garden? Or fly to another country to buy it? If those are cost too much, they have to ask for medical companies who push the laws. That is what they want. The inspector is will just as CAS social worker has “RIGHT” to do whatever they think it is easy to earn money. Ordinary people has no “RIGHT” even talk. What a civilized robber. Set a game rule first, then take whatever they like, if you don't agree, they have jail. You want me to read it, ok show you a few lines: http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/P...&File=84#20So that inspectors is more than a cop (and has more power than CAS social worker as well), he can enter your home and office to light a candle, although you can not do that in his office. lol

That is because you keep assert one place is better than another and I don't agree with you. I don't care much does not necessary mean I have no opinion. Changes happen in everywhere, new technologies significantly improved people's everyday life in many places. I believe this even helps some very poor countries as well. That is not what I am talking about. What I mean is the laws such as government grant CAS the power to kidnap kids from people's home; The mechanism that enable interest group push legislation to take away people's right like use of natural health products. The mechanism that make interest group pass new laws in a hidden way and many others. No matter what police do no not do when in need, no one can sue them and charge them. This kind of things keep taking away your rights and freedoms and make Canada a worse place. Will this mechanism change in your life time? I don't think it is likely.

I don't care much about if this place is better than another place. I care more about current place where I am living. When so many ugly things happened and you found it is not likely that some bad situation can be changed in your life time, will you still happy about the democracy that suppose to be a system that can improve your life? So you still think it is useful?

Definitely, that is exactly what I believe. I don't care much about abstract concept. I care more about my daily life and people around me. I feel uncomfortable on so many real everyday life things happened here that make it no better than another place. Even something are worse, that is natural. About the current western democracy, I have posted a lot on how big businesses manipulate it. for example, this one I just posted yesterday: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....mp;#entry475270 All have references and original place where it come from. I don't know, if you willing to argue, it is totally your business.

No matter where comes the opinion, no matter if it is his real opinion or it was given, are you able to convince his opinion is wrong and yours is right with some real persuasive argument?

What kind of argument skill this belong to? I am not a shill. I am not sure if you are. Even for a real shill, is he a human being? Can he has his own human right? Can he has his own idea? Do you have the capability to win in the argument? Several months ago, I thought you were respectable although you have a different opinion with me. Now, you make me so disappoint.