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Sorry, I don't read all posts because there are too many. It is not just one story, there are too many, I have post a lot in this forum. For example: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....st&p=475214 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....c=14350&hl= http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....c=14159&hl= http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....c=14026&hl= http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....c=13436&hl= And there are many from other posters. And countless in Internet. If you would like to talk about the past, easy to find them everywhere, like residential schools. I just said the democracy in Canada seems to be just a lie, and human right situation here is not good. This can not make me anti-Canadian, actually, if something can change to get rid of some of the bad laws that I mentioned, Canadians will be able to live in a better environment.

which point you are not clear about that I have said? I am not intend to talk anything about China. But it is still ok to answer if you show great interest in caring about the people half sphere away several decade ago than those who near you nowadays.

It is you keep mention China, Most topic I told in this board is about Canada. Most time I talk about China only when others talk about it first. Are you honest when you said "He principally does this in comparing China with Canada."? What is your basic logic? Is that when you can not find the support reason to support your argument, you turn to use dishonest to find excuse?

Why you repeated say I am dishonest without supported reason? Is it simply because I tell the truth?

If you often talk about something, that means the situation of that around you is not good . I did not often hear you talk about people need to eat, and food is important. Is that mean food is not important? No, actually there are many people in the world short of food. The reason you don't think about it frequently or notice it, is that you don't have that problem around you. All people around you have plenty to eat and many are consider how to eat less for health reason. Then why you want to emphasis freedom, human rights, democracy so much, and believe those are important? That is because you actually lack of those things around you. Let's take a look of the following incident: http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTV...=TorontoNewHome http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/article...thern-secondarySo, that is the reason, if a 16 year old kids unable to show an ID card, he would be arrested. That makes me remember a Hollywood movie (I can not remember the name) talk about Nazi arrest people in street who have no ID card.

Just give you 2 examples: http://hubpages.com/hub/Kennedy_Executive_Order_11110 http://www.populistamerica.com/how_the_fed...e_us___part_iii Do you think if you need to learn more of the nature of the system you support?

Not necessary, their work is just for the interest of the groups that push the law, those who can make more money from the law. Just like CAS case workers, their work is for the interest group that can take more from tax we pay. Those groups are who push the related legislation. Western governments are actually are weak ones, they are controlled by the large interest groups. In extreme cases government member who want to make some law that make the interest group earn less will be killed like several American presidents, who want to change some bank rules.

http://danieltowsey.wordpress.com/2008/05/...-a-health-bill/

You are so free that CAS can take your children away if your idea is not same with them. You are so free that your right to natural health products will be take away. You are so free that when a thief come to your shop, what you can do is only let him to take what he want and waiting hopelessly for police coming. You are so free that police will shoot you to death with a taser just because you can not speak English to find a way to home.

It is same no matter in Canada or in the world. The powerful industry groups have their representatives to make international game rules to decide how to cut the cake of the wealth in the world. Just like what they do in Canada such as take money from tax payers and give to CAS. In the world they do this by banking rules, treading rules, price rules, and they have something like police, court system in Canada, those are human right organizations, army, so that if any country don't agree with them they can "make peace" by killing people there. Something more than CAS did in Canada. Just like when European came to North america, most native people were killed: http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570...th_America.html In Canada, they use law and taser and pepper spray to its own people, in the world, they use rules and army to other nations. That is why China produce one third of world's production 200 years ago and 100 ago wars are everywhere and people were poverty. It is not easy for china to do with its own power to improve as current situation, although the living standard of many people in China are not as good as Canada, some people in China (the number is more than Canada's total population) now is living same as or better than Canadians.

Why I believe protest in Canada can not solve problem, because there is money behind the system, that law are designed to decide how to cut the cake of social wealth in this country, that isn't any of ordinary people can change. The powerful people of industry won't let this happen, so some people has to be the victims, so that the money making system can running well, that is the real human right situation in Canada.

To be able to choose one's own living style without being assaulted by government granted company such as CAS are much more basic than protest. If I can live well what need I protest for?

That is the very basic human right. Even for animal, to bring a kid like themself is their basic right. Take children away from parents are real kidnap, that Canadian police and CAS good at, instead of the case shopkeeper catch a thief.

Do you think light a candle in public can solve any kind of problems? The Rally 4 Accountability rally each year, Ontario's ombudsman is still not be granted the power to investigate child-protection agencies. http://woodstocksentinelreview.com/Article....aspx?e=1975389 If Canada's CAS or any of CAS like things can be defined as crime if they take any children from their parent without the willingness of any parent or child, I can permanently disappear from any forum on politics in Canada.

Is Canada qualified to be a police state: watch the follwing video to draw a conclusion by yourself: http://vimeo.com/6048570

The Archbishop Dorian A. Baxter speaks at Queens Park about CAS http://vimeo.com/7059519 Ontario Member of Parliament, Randy Hillier, speaks on the secrecy of Children's Aid Societies http://vimeo.com/7006950 Minister speaks about abuse of families by Children's Aid Society http://vimeo.com/6961550

I believe, to raise a child on one's own philosophy and to seek ways to improve one's health and his family's health include seeking natural health products by himself or with others who know that are more BASIC right to everyone. People should have to basic right to take care of themselves and their family members and take the responsibility of his own risk. That makes people's knowledge grow faster although make a certain number of interest groups earn less. Why many healthy people can die in hospital every year even when they just to deliver new babes, so that the hospitals have the right to make mistake that cause people death, while people themselves has no right to seeking alternative ways? This only possible answer is money. I don't want to use "honest" to attack you if you want to deny it.

I think people all over the world are the same. They behave differently because of different law where they live. As I always said, there are some kind of things you can do in Canada but can not do in China, and some kind of things you can do in China but can not do in Canada. That is why I said it the same. I mean overall. Go to forums in China to find how they accuse their government if you like and if you can understand Chinese. IMO, it is you that don't want to accept the truth about China although I don't care, I was not to start this at very beginning. That is you choice. No one force you to love Canada secondly. I did not start to talk about this, I just pointed out the Reporter Without Border is not worth trust. Is it the only way to label an opinion you are not able to prove it wrong dis-honest? Is that your final argument skill?

People have needs with different level. The very basic need is everyday life. All other thing are more than that. To raise a child, to seeking a better way to improve one's health, to find someone can understand his own language so that he can go home is everyday life. China has many services and warm-heard people and culture to solve this kind of problem that most ordinary people really care about and improve their everyday life. They did it good. While in Canada, many help behaviors are restricted by laws. And become the privilege of some interest groups. Government granted companies and government agencies continuously assault people on those very basic everyday life thing for earn money though tax. that is the real dark side that human right situation worse than China. I don't care whether i can light a candle in a specific place. I have too many places if I want to light one.

Can you go to Haper's office and light a candle there now?

Not, it is the same. Go to live in China for a year to find it if you like.

First, I did not make it compare with China, that means, even if China is a hell, it can not prove Canada is a haven. Second, I never feel China as a police state when I was in China for more than 30 years. For example, when something happened in China that a person's behavior is not agree with government's opinion, they will send some people to persuade and ask for change first, not like in Canada that CAS kidnap children away with the help of police and with pepper spray on 10 year old child when he don't willing to be taken away by CAS. Or with taser guns to shot an un-armed new immigrant to death.

Nothing can be trusted from "Reporters Without Borders" whose money is come from NED (National Endowment for Democracy), the 2nd CIA, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endo...t_for_Democracy http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_56400.shtml http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_56162.shtml

This case is actually happen 5 months before. I had a post at that time: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....c=14171&hl= It seems that democracy in Canada is a basically a lie. The law makers are basically representatives of interest groups. They want laws like C-51 to take away your right to natural health products in Canada. So that medicine industry and hospital system can earn more from tax payers. They don't care much about ordinary people's heath condition. They want to define a person as a criminal if his education idea is different from some of organizations such as CAS. So you don't have to right to have your own education philosophy. So that 1% of Ontario children can be in care of CAS, this make CAS earn 1.5 billions every year in Ontario from tax payers. And the numerical related cases can make court system and lawyers earn a lot. They want to label lots of normal behavior as crime, so that the jail can be full, and they can maintain a large police system that take large sum of money from tax payers. They make laws to protect car insurance companies to guarantee them earn large money. And many more. Everything is through laws. By making more and more such kind of laws, you will find yourself have less and less freedoms. The huge interest groups control media to fool people so that they can ensure the representative of large interest group can stay in the hall. They want freedom too, they want the freedom to make laws in the whole world to ensure them earn money. In western country, they have already own this ability, if any other country don't let them do this, let their representatives stay in their congress, then the country will not be called as a democracy, and the people there should be defined as no human right. And they country will be assaulted by employed "human right fighters" and reporters "without borders" And perhaps war will be launched there to "make peace". This is the nature of western style of modern "democracy". The understanding that come from real experience of living in Canada.

To build a road need not government too, once company can raise money from stock market.