AngusThermopyle

Hi Charter, its me again. Where should we start with this list of absurdities and false information you present? I know, lets look at how patently false this statement is, thats a good place to start. Obviously you know nothing about how tools and bows were made, for instance, the bow string. This was generally fashioned from strands of sinew twisted and glued to each other until the desired thikness was achieved, this produced a strong waterproof string, the glue was made from a variety of natural substances, West Coast Natives were known for making this glue from the Sturgeon. A good bow string could take days or even weeks to fashion, not mere minutes or even an hour or two as you claim. The bow itself was made from very carefully selected wood, just initially finding a suitable peice of wood could take days. Then came the shaping and treatment of the wood to provide durability and power for the bow, first the wood had to be cured, a lengthy and time consuming process. After curing came the shaping, being limited to the most primitive tools this could also be very time consuming. The most common treatment for North American bows was to glue thick sinew to the inside face of the bow thus providing strength and elasticity, even so the effective range of these bows was in the 50 to 60 yard range, not very impressive at all. Lets move on to the arrows shall we. Ironically the tips were the easiest part of the arrow to make, these were most commonly formed from either flint or bone. Flint arrow heads could be crudely fashioned in minutes, true, but a good arrow head, depending on the technique used could take hours to fashion. Selecting the wood for the arrows was another tedious process, after the wood was selected came the curing, they didn't just fire green twigs from bows made out of a bit of a branch with a string tied to it. So after all that came the fletching, another time consuming process without which the arrow would be useless. Given this quick run down of the process it becomes obvious once more that you are just making up more crap and trying to pass it off as truth. If you want I can point you towards some good resources dealing with this very subject, at least that way you could actually discuss the subject without having to resort to falsities and guessing. Right now I'm in a bit of a rush so I don't have time to address the rest of your false claims but when I do have time I'll try to remember to do so. For someone who spends so much time insulting and patronizing others you appear to be woefully ignorant of many of the subjects you accuse others of being ignorant about. Or will you now claim that NA Natives had some wonderfull magical skill that allowed them to disregard the laws of Physics and do the impossible with objects that were common on a world wide scale? That would be amusing, especially since the brief process I've described is actually based around NA bows fashioned by NA Natives.

Interesting you mention that, so am I, except I'm in the construction field, COR certified CSO. It was a great field to get into and my military training and service has served me well in it. I've been following this thread with mild interest and the statement that really struck me was when craiger said he'd just finished writing a D&A policy. Within the last month I just finished doing that for the company I work for. He's amazing, the only welder I've met who has the time or background to write such a piece of policy. What I found was that I had to delve both into the law and the Charter in order to ensure due dilligence with no infringement of basic personal rights, and also adherence to both Provincial and federal laws in relation the OHSA and also WCB guidelines. All in all it took me five or six weeks of steady work and research to do it, its not just some simple off the cuff thing as craiger appears to imply. Now I'm not saying he didn't do what he claims, I just wonder how sound this policy is and would it stand both legal and due dilligance tests. Anyway, interesting to meet someone else in the safety field. Thats too easy, its all availlable online (maybe not the "facts" he stated, but the real facts are) you should have asked him something harder. Actually the ACSA website has a really good section on guidlines for a D&A policy for small to medium sized buisnesses.

Back in the TF days I used to play with a clan quite a bit, never joined it, just played with them on their server. They asked me to join but I just didn't have the flexibility of time to mke it worth while. Now I just jump onto a good server, I can't stand playing the same map over and over. I used to play Homeworld just not online. Actually I was just telling my friend about it the other day. He just bought Spore and was raving about it having the best "space sim" aspect of any game. i've tried it and like most Maxis products found it to be boring in short order, thats why I showed him Homeworld on youtube, so he could see what a real space game looks like. I'll have to pick up another copy I guess. I love RTS, right now I'm playing CoH again, you're right, it is an incredibly good game. Another thats hooked me lately is World In Conflict. It's a beautifull game, very slick and well done, you'd just better make sure you have the horsepower if you want to run high res with all the eye candy turned on. C&C, got em all, that was one of the first games I ever played on PC, before that (roughly) it was all Amiga for me. About the only RPG I ever got into was Diablo, it set the standard for RPG's but as you mentioned it was all about leveling and grinding, albiet not to the degree it is now but it was in effect the start of it all. An all time favourite of mine and one that I still play to this day is Civilisation, a brilliant turn based strategy game that covers all the bases and does it well. Morris, you might like this if you don't already know it, very deep strategy with a plethora of factors to be considered when taking your turn, not fast paced but very deep. One of the very few turn based games left around now. I also heard that Fallout III is coming out for the Christmas season, thats another you might like, set in a post apocalyptic world it has its charm. It can be very addictive, especially when you start to get good, no easy feat in itself. In the past I was fortunate enough to be with a woman who also gamed, it was actually another level of interaction we could share, we used to play Starcraft together a lot of the time, so it was never a problem for me, though I could see how it would be if your wife was not a gamer. As for a seasonal thing, well for me its year round. If I'm at home alone I'll play a game, sometimes when friends come over they even want to watch me play, thats not a problem because I run DVI out into my TV. Since I don't watch TV (just movies) I have that time to spend playing games instead. In my opinion its a much better way to relax and enjoy yourself than watching TV, its interactive where TV is passive. I really cant give an opinion on consoles because I don't use them. I've tried them but they just don't do it for me, I find the games to be simplistic (even PC ports tend to get dumbed down) and I detest game pads, keyboard and mouse all the way for me. Plus I also like building my own machines and knowing that they can blow any console out of the water when it comes to performance. I almost forgot to mention Supreme Commander, it can be a lot of fun as well, the Dawn of War series aren't bad either.

I'm a huge fan of Steam myself, its such a smooth and well thought out system. TF2 is a lot of fun and I do spend some time playing it but I'm still largely a Counter Strike player, the short rounds are nice since you can have a game in five or ten minutes. the other one I mentioned, Combat Arms (free) is a pretty standard shooter borrowing from TF, CS, UT and a few others so it has all the good elements. The IM friends matching feature is nice as well since it makes it very easy to hook up with friends and have a game. WoW doesn't do anything for me either but it does for many people. Actually to the point of addiction for quite a few. Off hand I can't recall any specifics but I do recall that their have been a few (or more) dubious practices and actions credited to WoW players. For many it becomes more than just a game and more of an extension of their personal world, in fact so much so that it can affect their real physical world. If you follow gaming I'm sure you'll have seen numerous examples of fraud or just demented behaviour based around a virtual game world. It's just my opinion but I believe MMO's are ripe ground for breeding such obsession, they create a persistant virtual environment that enables some people to regard it as more home than their actual home. The other form of gaming, individual server based games, such as TF or CS do not maintain this persistant virtual environment, games are short (generally), the maps change frequently (generally) and most people just server hop instead of using only one (generally). these are some of the reasons why even though you can become addicted to these games they don't encourage the delusional behaviour that some people display in MMO's. Well, thats my opinion on it. Very true, the gaming industry has out paced the movie industry by quite a large margin now and some major media companies are very heavily invested in it. As for WoW, I agree, World of Warcrack. I imagine that as the subscriber base grows so will the incidences of wierdness. Then you have those persistant "sims" type environments, those would appear to be tailor made refuges for the not quite normal.

I was wondering what people think about on line gaming. Not on line cards or gambling, those are pretty common, I'm talking about the virtual community aspect. As we can see in another thread some people take this pretty seriously with on line husbands, divorces and even murder. Pretty strange if you ask me. Currently I think World Of Warcraft is the biggest of the Massively Multi Player games, or MMO's, this game is also known as World Of war Crack because so many people become addicted to it and its virtual community aspect. Being a gamer myself I tried it, frankly I found it boring and tedious, a great many people would disagree with me about that (millions of subscribers). Later today I'll log into a free one called Combat Arms, its quite a bit of fun and I'll be playing against my friend in Ontario. So it offers not just a game but a social aspect as well, for myself however I find the social aspect to be quite good but still no where near as satisfying as actual interaction with people who are present. So could these on line addictions be partly fueled by the anonimity the net provides to everyone, allowing those who normally would not behave certain ways to act as they really want? Could it be fuelled in part by people who have few social skills and become addicted to these games because their lack of social skills is not so important in this medium? This is a growing part of our culture and I believe it can have a profound impact on the lives of many people, but as with anything it can also have a negative impact on many people. What do you guys think? Is it a fringe pastime or a vibrant growing industry with some positive aspects?

Thats pretty lame, amusing if you were about five years old I'd say.

Actually her freedom of movement is not restricted in Canada, she just can't leave the country. If she is a Canadian then being in Canada should not be considered a hardship. Thats really no big deal unless she really really wants to meet with some of her dads old chums. Her entire tone is PLOM (poor little old me), everything she writes is very self serving and designed to illicit sympathy, deserved or not. Thats a very good point.

Well I have to admit that I'm quite surprised at that result. It just goes to show that people are aware and do care about the bull thats being dragged on forever in Caledonia. It also tends to indicate that the towns people are not 100% behind six tribes on this issue. Who woulda thunk it? From whats been posted you'd think that they hate him and support the thugs, I guess thats another point that wasn't true, or should we just call it what it is? A lie.

Holy sh*t Dancer! Just how fast do you drive man? What do you drive that'll go that fast?

I wouldn't call airing adds that showed Jack Booted soldiers marching "pulling punches".

You're confused, I never mentioned a grenade. Why is it that so many people attribute things that were never said to people on this forum. Is it too hard for people to remember who said what? As for your whole going to Afghanistan and breaking their laws, well, thats invalid. Being there with NATO approval and at the invitation of the Afghani government at the time means that no laws were broken, except by Khadr. So he participated in hostilities by the Americans, they caught him, he's their to bring to trial. When the Allies would capture German combatants in, lets say Poland, did they turn the prisoners over to the Polish government? No, they kept and dealt with them themselves, so why should Khadr be any different. Because he's just a poor little muffin? No, he was a combatant, fully willing and able to kill coalition troops. Do you honestly believe if it had been Canadian troops he would have just extended the olive branch of peace? Of course not, he would have done what he could to kill them as well. All this coupled with the fact that the majority of Canadians don't want this piece of slime back in Canada, but thats just the emotional aspect of this whole thing. Finally, I never mentioned anyone putting three rounds into his chest either, guess you're confused again, or just being disingenuous.

I get the impression that you think paying more taxes is just fine and dandy, I for one don't share that opinion. When you consider that we're already one of the highest taxed peoples in the world there should be no need to raise taxes any more. But if you think paying taxes upon taxes is fun then you go right ahead and have a good old time paying mine.

Actually Tango, that question is pure hypothesis with no factual basis and as such is purely emotional and devoid of any significance. Not to say I don't understand your point, it just doesn't have any validity when posed as a "what if" sort of question.

Actually its not fuzzy at all, except to you apparently. He commited an offense against the Americans, thus it is their right to bring him to trial. I'm not saying that they've done that, just that Canada has no right to demand to try him when it was Americans whom he was fighting. As for your whole wrong side argument, what relevance does that have, how does it cancel out jurisdiction? As I said, its not my logic that is fuzzy. Now how about you give me one sound reason why the Americans should not be able to bring him to trial but we should.

Or walking around Toronto on a hot muggy summer day.

Thats all very nice but you can kill quite easily with a lot of kitchen knives, so we should ban them. The fact remains that you can kill with these items, so why not ban them? As for hunting, right now I have a nice Duck and Goose in my freezer, as well as some Elk and Venison. Its really good stuff, you should try some sometime. I don't hunt but I know many people who do and I never turn my nose up at some nice game, in fact a friend is going to be bringing me some Pheasent and Partridge once the season opens. It looks like you just have a very strong prejudice against guns and want them banned no matter what. Thats fine, it isn't going to happen anyway.

Okay, now I'm sure, I'm talking to someone who just doesn't get it. I've told you multiple times I'm not running for PM, therefore there is no requirement for me to answer that question. What is so far beyond your comprehension about that? You on the other hand seem to be stuck on this absolutely stupid and irrelevant point, give your head a shake man. Where did I say its an easy question to answer? I didn't, but apparently you don't comprehend all that well. What I said was that it was easy to understand, not answer. In actual fact its a pretty involved question. If the best that Dion supporters have is demanding that forum members answer for him, well, it doesn;t say much for Dion or the intelligence level of his supporters. Now, once more, I'm not running for PM, Dion is. Its his question to answer, not mine. Do you understand this very simple and basic concept, or is it still beyond your comprehension, would you like me to draw a picture for you? Would that help you to understand? It doesn't surprise me that you have trouble understanding what was asked, your prior posts would indicate someone who has difficulty with such concepts. Everyone who saw the interview understood what was being asked, except apparently you, and of course Dion. Actually I noticed the error with the date but figured the poster had just slipped up and did actually know when to vote. I find it very telling that you would automatically make an assumption and then attempt to make an issue of that assumption, very Liberal of you. I've already mentioned that you remind me of a kid in a school yard. This only reinforces that impression even more. So far all you've done is stubbornly repeat the same irrelevancies over and over while refusing to acknowledge self evident truths that every one else can see. You should try growing up and actually employing some maturity in your aproach.

This part of your post simply can not be argued with. It is the crux of the problem in a nut shell.

I must be misunderstanding you because what you just said makes no sense at all to me. It was my impression that politicians do that, ask you to vote for them. So how is Harper asking people to vote for him conclusive proof is a proof that he's not fit to govern?

Lets look at this shall we? A hunting rifle is designed to provide sustenance yet you want to ban it because someone might misuse it, correct? A knife is designed to cut or pierce, yet even though someone might misuse it to kill you don't want a ban on knives. Sorry bud, that dog just wont hunt. You're kinda diggin yourself deeper on this one with every post you make. Oh yes, what about my earlier question? Do you want to ban bows and arrows too? How about slingshots?

This is a very disingenous statement. When that bullet flies down range it doesn't matter if it was fired by a 15 or a 50 year old, it still does what its designed to do. When you take the field of combat you aren't playing with a toy, you are going to kill or be killed, its that simple.

Not me.

I agree, but it can not be denied that there is a large radical element in Lebanon. As I said, they do interview some Lebanese who are sick of the constant violence but they themselves say that they can't do anything or they'll be killed. Another shocking part was when they talked to a bomber who hadn't been caught, he talks about how happy it would make him if he could walk into a nursery full of Israeli babies and detonate there. Unfortunately it is a sizeable portion of the population who share these views. It was interesting when they talked to young Israeli people about it. The overwhelming response was that they wished it would end as well. There are people on both sides who decry the violence but they're pretty much powerless to do anything about it. It really is a must see movie for anyone who is at all interested in the situation over there. They don't just give you a recitation of events or acts, they attempt to delve a little more deaply into the true and immedeate motivations for these acts.

Now now, temper temper. What on earth are you going on about? No where have I even mentioned anything about perpetuation of the species. Now to continue. It is not a simple matter of perspective. You made statements based on very broad assumptions and non factual suppositions, that is not perspective, it is simply invalid and illogical. As for the teacher thing, well I really do want to know if this is a technique you impart to your students, nothing more.

That may be so, but you still have to renounce your dual citizenship to be accepted. Why is it odd to want a clearly stated loyalty from members, if anything it makes perfect sense.