madmax

Do you remember the attack in parliment in 2001?

Must be Poll week Nova Scotia warming up to Harper

The problem is that Iggy choose to target the NDP and thought they could put the squeeze on Layton and crush the NDP support for their leader..... And this is the result of that failed strategy. That's what happens when a leader looks down and not up.

Ok, that makes the circle. We also have a number of wild dog packs in the region. But I am in Ontario. I have no idea if this is hte case on Cape Breton.

We agree again.

I have not heard of Coyotes attacking people unless rabid. However, as I have many packs of Coyotes in and around my property, I can assure you they travel and hunt in packs. This is a wakeup call for certain. The poor woman.. tragic

Opps Stelmach steps in it Banter in the Leglislature leads to apology...

You're right, they don't. And if I recall correctly, neither you or I have gotten the boot from there yet. Thanks..... On a side note for anyone who wants to reply to this thread... I will steer it back on topic with this... I am for the elimination of Corporate and Union Donations.

I just had that conversation last night with some friends... funny to hear an online echo.

Crop Poll Quebec If someone with good French skills could translate ... it is a leadership poll and a party poll.

Unreleased Angus Reid Poll Yet to be released Angus Reid poll Tories 40, Grits 26, NDP 17

This is a sound strategy to take the riding back!

After 2 days, this is the best hatchet job you can come up with??? I will rest with my previous post...

Environics Poll. http://erg.environics.net/media_room/default.asp?aID=712 Progressive Conservatives Lead Liberals. PC= 37% Lib=32% NDP=19%

No you weren't

This appears to be the hottest story going. I Look forward to a full investigation.

What you mean, people with a political agenda in parliment? Getting tossed out? Heaven forbid. Never heard of such a thing ever...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Remember the complaints from visitors who see our parliment in action and are shocked by the antics of our MPs. It would appear this roudy group has received alot of press which is their intention. Like its the first group to ever disturb the childish brats in the house. LOL

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=4568 Provincial Grit Fortress Ontario Cracks: McGuinty Liberals Tumble (-6) to 39% Support While Hudak PCs In the Hunt (+5) at 36%, Horwath NDP Engaged (+4) at 16% But While Ontarians (58%) Expect More in Responding to Recent Problems, Government Sidesteps Most Scandal Blame (35%) October 27, 2009

This could be the start of a long slow fall in support. Liberals Down 6 Liberals: 39 Progressive Conservatives: 36 NDP: 16

I was the one who posted that poll in the polling threadthank you..... And if you look at the data, the regional stats are a messs, as no party raises 11% points since that last poll, except in this one. The only party to be worried is the LPC. Really? I swore that the CA and the PCs merged to create the historic opportunity and since 2004 have marched ever so close to that goal. Being the tweedle dum of tweedle dee, this is not to be unexpected. I believe the NDP had 12 seats and then 19 then 29 and now 37 seats. Its a fourth party, and used to be outpointed by the now defunct Social Credit. But the NDP is still around, doing what it does. Correct me if I am wrong, not being from the region, but it would be that level of arrogance and ignorance that has put a party in power for the 1st time in 70 years. Obviously not a region of interests for the Conservatives. Perhaps that is why they were such a shitty government. Nope. I don't believe in one party states. That's for ALberta. I do believe you require the government, the heir and that other. Considering the number of years the CCF/NDP have run Sask and balanced the budgets and provided programs, it would be wrong to assume that a government would become out of touch or long of tooth. But its the opposition and will likely return to power, once the Sask party runs its course. That's hardly anything to be proud of. What a mess. These clowns may have made it this far, but they will have the Liberal brand ruined so badly, BC will be looking for a new party name for the right to hide behind. And I prefer the fact that the NDP is against the Carbon Tax and the HST. But they are opposition. Failed NDP leaders join the ranks of the Liberals. Successful NDP leaders go into the history books and are fondly remembered. Ontario may never have that priviledge, but the LIberals like him. Could be, I will ask Jdobbin as he seems to have a good finger on the pulse of the NDP in Manitoba. Oh. Silly me, I thought he failed before by opposing everything. Now that he reads it, yeah, that's bad for the people of Canada. Politicians reading the legislation. I would say, if he backed an election in September, he'd have to be drunk. What on earth could you go to the public with? The NDP opposed everything and got nothing done in a year, lets have an election??? Now that's stupid. I didn't welcome a fall election. I think its good that the government hasn't fallen. And I also believe that Layton has done a better job then Ignatieff thought he would. Thus it hasn't hurt the NDP. The role reversal has deeply hurt the LPC who were polling high until Sept. Now, look at those MLW polls on the right and on the left. A weak LPC actually benefits the CPC not the NDP. A strong NDP benefits the NDP and there is a ceiling to that support, but there is a very deep basement. As long as the NDP is near their ceiling they will be in Broadbent range. As long as the NDP is near the basement, they will be in ... don't know her name but it was 1993 and while she did better then Kim Campbell, it marks the NDP lowpoint. You obviously think the NDP should do better then I do. Why don't you vote for them, and I will vote for whom I like. LOL.

The NDP are the Government in Nova Scotia. Just won one of two Conservative seats in a ByElection. I see no signs of implosion nor 13% support.

Good observation. E Health and the less known 2nd Career have disappeared from the print media. 2nd Career isn't so much a boondoggle as much as it is in admitting that retraining costs a hell of alot of money. Lazy unemployed workers took them up on their offer to retrain. There wasn't enough funding to cover the demand. Budget is blown less then halfway through. Expect the Liberals to continue to toute 2nd Career as they restrict eligibility. A program is great if you make it sound great and offer it to few. Meanwhile, its just a drop in the bucket of the number of unemployed. The Ontario government has no vision for the future. Its a government run amok and most of their programs are out of control when given to 3rd party consultants and private sector service providers with their bellies up to the trough.

Right.... that's why the first stage of the attack was not against the CPC but was the NDP chicken video. It is why, Ignatieff was trying to put the pressure on the NDP and ironically switched roles. The intent was to drive the NDP below the 10% margin and force either an election or the NDP to support the CPC government, and capitalize on the disgruntled NDP voter who hates the CPC government and would be shocked and offended to see the NDP support an ideological evil party. Only, the numbers didn't turn out as expected. The LPC voters lost interest in the LPC and have noticed the similarities of Harper and Ignatieff. So why not go for the real thing, instead of the flakey, flip flopping immitator? But certainly, the focus was on the NDP and getting back Northern Ontario ridings and other Ontario NDP pickups from the last Federal Election. Infact, Ignatieff seemed almost obsessed with the NDP and wanting to rush through parliment,the CPC EI legislation that they don't support. Such a rush, that Ignatieff discounted anothor 120,000 people from January of this year who would not qualify for Long Term Career Transition support, without the prompting of the NDP. The CPC didn't want to include this group. The Largest numbers of Laid off in one month in Canadas history wouldn't be eligible. IIRC the EI proposals that the NDP are backing are in 3 different private members bills that would be DEAD if their was an election. On top of that the EI changes that along for the Siti and Eiti programs to be expanded across the country would be lost from insufficient funds. However, what is merely EI bookkeeping is absolutely absurd to deny people in need because the LPC has a political agenda that is more important then the unemployed. We saw that BS all summer, whereas the LPC could have helped push through the EI Private Members bill in June instead of grandstanding. Fact is the LPC have NEVER presented changes to EI. It never happened, there are no bills and none within the last 9 years. As mentioned above the NDP did manage to get the Government to address those laid off from January 4th opposed to those who normally would be covered only if laid in after January 25th 2009. ANd what have the LPC done for anyone laid off (Short of bleeding the EI fund of $46Billion)? There is not one thing of substance anywhere. Infact while the CPC have offered marginal changes, those changes are more then the LPC have done positively for the laid off employee in 13 years of Liberal government. Of course more needs to be done. The LPC were supposed to do something from June to Sept and accomplished SFA. And more importantly desired and election vs helping those in need. Optics were bad. The NDP and popular support are an OxyMoron. IIRC any benefits attributed to the NDP in a minority government have went to the citizens of Canada and not to NDP polling numbers. Ask David Lewis, who was an instigator of some other NDP initiatives such as FIRA, and soon found himself without a seat for his efforts. Regardless, the NDP polling numbers haven't collapsed. They are within their traditional margin of error which means on any given day a significant number of NDP seats are vulnerable. I believe that is always the case. Exactly. Regardless, I am certain that if Harper could pull the plug again, he would. But having went to the well once with that trick, he would not be rewarded as he was last year. Infact, by going to the polls too soon based on polling data, he could pull an Ignatieff. Speaking of which..... Federal Liberals drop in polls again