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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/spector-vision/nanos-poll-predicts-reduced-tory-minority/article1459766/ CPC= 35.6 LPC= 33.9 NDP= 16.4 GPC= 5.6 BQ = 33.2 (Quebec) which is how BQ numbers should be reflected.

Well, it looks like the majority here called it. And I gotta say, I am totally baffled by Torontos voting pattern. Not that this wasn't predictable, its just .... Well read the above quote.. pretty much says it all.

Enjoy this victory. Certainly the government wanted this outcome. However, I know a shitty deal when I see one. Once again as you can read above we had to sell ourselves out again. This is part of the same downhill spiral decision making which creates an assinine waste of stimulus spending monies. Great press and political points. Too bad that the reality is that we will not benefit from this good news announcement. Flush those Federal tax dollars down the short term toilet.

LOL its a "Secret Ballot"Todays the vote. This is the weakest participation on MLW I have seen. So....I will have to dispute the outcome of our "scientific poll" as it stands. I think this is a Liberal Cakewalk again. I think Cathy Crowe has made an impact as she always has as a community activist. Perhaps it will require two runs, perhaps she will upset the status quo as Glen Murray appears to be another Liberal Milktoast with his bellyup to the entitlement trough. I don't think the outsider roll is ever a significant factor in a Toronto election or byelection (But I wish it was). Personally, I understand the need to parachute a leader into a riding to get a seat but other then that, if you don't have the quality within the riding association to locate a local candidate with a strong track record, you probably have a shitty association with no grassroots appeal. I am only aware of Pamela Taylors Provincial run in 2007. I don't know if her commenting on John Bairds Sexual Orientation has helped or hurt the campaign.

Bump! I think this is going to be a Liberal Cakewalk in a safe riding. I don't think any amount of incompetence or the HST are going to stick to the Ontario Liberals.

That's a load of bullocks. Considering Harper pulled the plug on government in 2008 for no specific reason, he took people to the polls on a whim of a majority government. A BS election. Ignatieff tried to pull off the same "one trick pony" the following Sept and quickly learned that the passive Canadian electorate can become volatile. Thus, Harper got away with it.... Ignatieff didn't. Similar, Harper got away with the 1st Prorogue. It wasn't pretty and it was self inflicted. Part of being a good tradesman is fixing your mistakes. The public sided with the government, while non too impressed with the extended holiday. Harper tries the same "one trick pony" again and discovers he is as inept as Ignatieff in reading the public tea leaves. This isn't about the "Liberals" its about the "Conservatives" and thus the "Conservatives are taking a major butt kicking and deservedly so. Just like when Ignatieff thought he could pull the plug on parliment, the public didn't judge the "Conservatives" but they did judge the "Liberals" and found their reasons lacking and they took a major butt kicking. Many Conservatives are somehow lost in putting the spin on the Liberals. While I am certain many Liberals would love to take credit for bringing attention to the prorogation, the fact is, they just didn't have the structure game, or popularity to pull this off. Nope, their is only one turkey to blame for this dismal display of government. That turkeys name is Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Harper set the Conservative party up for a Turkey Shoot and everyone is lining up for their turn. Imagine if parliment was sitting .... there is little doubt that not only would the CPC have not dropped between 7 and 15points depending on which poll spread is your favourite, but the fact is, the CPC would likely have been above the 50% Mark after the response to Haiti. No spring election.... Who'd call it? The public wants government to work, not another election after extended holidays. Nope, by not calling an election and getting back to work, the election can be fought anytime afterwards and the CPC record is there for all to see. Prorogation Vacation. Enjoy those Senate appointments, it sure was worth it.

Maybe you need to take a good hard look at the rest of the patronage patsies. Duffy is a blowhard and a buffoon, but there are many incompentent and entitlement driven Senators enjoying their paycheques and priviledges. Who'd have thunk their could be a time when Senators might be out performing Harpers Conservatives. Their are Some Senators who like to sit and think. Their are other Senators who like to sit. Harper has decided he wants his MPs to neither think nor sit. Maybe that's why he has been letting Duffy be the CPC mouthpiece and fundraiser.

Its different because it is an "unscientific Poll. We have now had 6 Polls in a row that have firmly indicated that Harper lead his party down the garden path. Its different because you can easily stack deck. I have more faith in the punters here and our polls as we have been pretty close to the actual result at the end of the day. However, I wouldn't compare the fun here to a real polster. I recall when the Ontario By Elections were held and an "Unscientific Poll" ended up with more votes for Conservatives then there were votes available in the riding. John Tory went on to lose big. I have more interest in questioning the methodology of the polsters. The best discussion on those methods I have found on babble where a former employee of a polling firm explains the hows, whys, if and or butts that we have about these polls.

Here is the breakdown of the poll above. http://www.visioncritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2010.01.28_Politics_CAN.pdf Voting Intention: Con. 33%, Lib. 29%, NDP 19%, BQ 10%, Grn. 7%. Approval Rating: Harper 27%, Layton 27%, Ignatieff 17%. Momentum: Layton -5, Ignatieff -20, Harper -34. 61% disagree with the government’s decision to prorogue Parliament 57% believe a federal election in 2010 is “very likely” or “moderately likely”

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/756909--tories-support-eroding-poll-shows CPC 33 LPC 29 NDP 19 BQ 10 GPC 7

Election Date: Thursday February 4th

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When Charles slaps me on the wrist (and he has), I take it as a compliment. Not for the warning, but for the objectivity within it and the fact that I have been caught crossing the line of unacceptable behaviour. It has nothing to do about our Prime Minister.

5th Consecutive poll shows LPC and CPC neck and neck. CPC 31.5 Down 9.5% LPC 30.9 up 3.5%

Your Hydro Bill is like mine. I too pay more in Delivery then in Consumption of Hydro.

Moving an incompetent Minister such as Rait from one Ministry to another is not astute.

Latest Leger Quebec poll: BQ 40% Lib 23% Con 17% NDP 15% Grn 4% http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/spector-vision/dissatisfaction-with-conservatives-reaches-new-high-in-quebec/article1435815/?cid=art-rail-bureaublog

As opposed to a government who's defense is that it can't Walk and Chew at the same time. If you think your angry, you should have seen the grimmaces on peoples faces who think this government stinks and they voted for them. Now their attention is focused on Haiti.

I am going to tell it do you straight. What is happening out there, even outside of facebook, and in the coffee shops, is outside the typical political posturing. It is to big to be driven by the LPC and NDP combined. It is well ahead of them and they are trying to catch up to public opinion. The LPC and NDP spin isn't even united. And like anything in politics that gets spun, this one has more traction and both parties want to get their rubber on the road. Conservative spin is directed to the public. It isn't working. You are talking to the wrong people. I am listening to the public, they are telling me and they voted Conservative.

There are a few diehards who see the Iceberg but believe there isn't ice under the water. I really feel bad for those who are still trying to push the "its no big whoop" message after 18 days adrift. Make no bones about it, the CPC MPs in many ridings are not happy campers. I have seen some of the presentations being prepared. The government is going to be defenceless. If they can't handle the message now, I only see rough waters ahead. Maybe they will miss the Iceberg. But the CPC have to find a rudder first.

I met Greg Thompson last year. He was the most non partisan Conservative I have met. I believe he could work with anyone. I don't think its fun to laugh at someone who has decided that the grind of politics and travelling is no longer for him. Many politicians make that same decision.

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Lame I see you put as much effort in that reply as you do in your public sector job.Lets look at this Pundit, and the "terrible coverage" Harper received at the end of the year and his announcement of proroguement. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/for-harper-2009-was-a-very-good-year/article1416260/ The entire article is a praising review of Harper.