Sleipnir

Imagine if the posts betsy's been making in the gay thread were all clump into one post - not 4 or 5 individual posts all at once?

My guess, it makes it easier to follow conversations and to scroll back to see what people were saying.

First you compared gay people to pedophile, now you're comparing gay people to fat and anorexic?

Actually he doesn't need to make a new thread - you stated it and now you're being argued aganist. Because in her world, gays needs to be cured.

No, you're talking about how homosexuality is a disease, a disability, a condition that needs to be cure.

NAMBLA is an extreme fringe organization that is strongly rejected by every mainstream gay society in the world. Betsy, for the 8th time, there is a difference between sexual attraction and sexual orientation. Sounds like to me that you support pederasty.

There is no evidence that sexual abuses changes gender. Personal belief and evidence are not the same thing. Sexual orientation and sexual attraction are not the same thing.

Because there are no evidence to show such connection. 1) How do these so-called experts who say it's dangerous to do such therapy know that all straight were "born" straight? 2) How do they know that everyone fit the same profile? 3) That no one among these straight is truly unhappy about his straightness - since deep inside he might be truly a homosexual? You're the only person here in this thread that seems to misunderstand it. There is nothing wrong with being gay and treating it as a disability isn't helping those who are gay. To repeat cybercoma's comment - sexuality is not binary, ever heard of bisexual? Or a case of being 'curious'?

Exactly, the only thing he has going for him is his father's name, curly hair and abs. Plus his ability to be a male stripper. http://www.straight.com/blogra/canadas-most-political-male-stripper-justin-trudeau

They just need to take 'bad faith' into consideration.

lol "Harper's Hebrew's name is Yech".

We're talking about vulnerable minors that are being subjected to abuse by their peers. In fact, the creator (Dr. Robert Spitzer) of the conversion therapy has retracted the method of being shoddy science. Much like the vaccine-autism controversy. http://www.truthwins.../2012/04/24542/ The therapy has absolutely no scientific bases or merits. http://prospect.org/...ed-ex-gay-life/ He even offered an "apology" for those affected by the therapy. http://www.nytimes.c....ewanted=3&_r=2

This ain't a country, but a forum website on the internet.

Well clearly you have not seen how she debates. People change yes, but not orientation. The therapy is a fraud based on pseudoscience with absolutely 0% success rate. Lol just because you witness something doesn't make it self-explanatory. lol now you're suddenly changing the topic?

Please don't insult 2nd graders....

The ban is targeting minors. Adults can do whatever they want to themselves. That we're arguing with someone that lack the skills of critical thinking with no hope for a rational debate.

-palm face-

I guess the judges doesn't care about the safety and health of children. In no way does the banning of conversion therapy violates the therapists first amendment, that is complete bullcrap.

From 1973 Times has changed betsy, try the 21st century

Not sure if you can put yourself on ignore

Don't play dumb, read the post carefully. Sexual orientation ARE NOT THE SAME as sexual attraction. Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, pedophilia is a sexual attraction. It not pure speculation, its the reality of it. Why do you think there are people in the closest? Uh?

Because the therapy is crap, doesn't work and take advantage of those in emotional state. No, we're talking about your lack of understanding regarding gays

You have a different mindset alright...

I meant the Conservative party, not the conservative philosophy.