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No. She's entitled to $10 million. You are clearly a Liberal who mistakes her for Jody R.

Trudeau is in deep shit all kidding aside. He's caused a real split in his cabinet which has burst out in the open. He has lost control of his caucus. Look its not rocket science. The Liberals know if Trudeau quit and Jody was crowned Liberal leader, she could ride them into a majority win based on what she did. That is what many think is the preferable outcome to going down with Justin, Seamus and Billy Boy Morneau. I would say Scott Brison saw this coming and ran. If this continues another week you will have an out and out splinter party emerge. If I am the NDP and Tories I would just be sitting back enjoying the Liberal melt down. Help me I'm melting....Jody or is that Dorothy sprinkled water on Justin. Now the Flying Monkeys need a new leader. We have no Scarecrow. Jagmeet is a Klingon who hates violence and Mr. Shneer no offence comes off as the Tin Man or Mr. Rogers or Darren from Bewitched. I think at this point we need to bring in Celine Dion as PM.

Well not Seamus and Bill. They are tight with Justin. Real tight.

I argue 8 things and explain my positions unlike the Liberal pissantes: 1. The Prime Minister, the Privy Council head and the PMO’s office violated s.121 of the Criminal Code. 2. The Attorney General of Canada has no power or role to withdraw a persecution based on any consideration that lends to the appearance of or is in fact a conflict of interest or based on a partisan consideration which is what Trudeau asked her to do. 3. The Prime Minister, the Privy Council head and the PMO’s office violated s.121 of the Criminal Code. 4. The Privy Council head admitted to acting outside his job description. 5. The fact an action is legal does not make it ethical or acceptable. 6. The current scandal goes to a repeated pattern of showing contempt for the law by Trudeau. 7. The current scandal shows Trudeau is not the feminist he claims he is. 8. Mr. Trudeau claims to understand Indigenous people but clearly shows contempt for them 1-The Prime Minister, the Privy Council head and the PMO’s office violated s.121 of the Criminal Code The operative wording of the Criminal Code section on influence peddling I place in bold. S.121(1) Every one commits an offence who (a) directly or indirectly (i) gives, offers or agrees to give or offer to an official or to any member of his family, or to any one for the benefit of an official, or (ii) being an official, demands, accepts or offers or agrees to accept from any person for himself or another person, a loan, reward, advantage or benefit of any kind as consideration for cooperation, assistance, exercise of influence or an act or omission in connection with (iii) the transaction of business with or any matter of business relating to the government, or (iv) a claim against Her Majesty or any benefit that Her Majesty is authorized or is entitled to bestow, whether or not, in fact, the official is able to cooperate, render assistance, exercise influence or do or omit to do what is proposed, as the case may be; (b) having dealings of any kind with the government, directly or indirectly pays a commission or reward to or confers an advantage or benefit of any kind on an employee or official of the government with which the dealings take place, or to any member of the employee’s or official’s family, or to anyone for the benefit of the employee or official, with respect to those dealings, unless the person has the consent in writing of the head of the branch of government with which the dealings take place; (c) being an official or employee of the government, directly or indirectly demands, accepts or offers or agrees to accept from a person who has dealings with the government a commission, reward, advantage or benefit of any kind for themselves or another person, unless they have the consent in writing of the head of the branch of government that employs them or of which they are an official; (d) having or pretending to have influence with the government or with a minister of the government or an official, directly or indirectly demands, accepts or offers or agrees to accept, for themselves or another person, a reward, advantage or benefit of any kind as consideration for cooperation, assistance, exercise of influence or an act or omission in connection with (i) anything mentioned in subparagraph (a)(iii) or (iv), or (ii) the appointment of any person, including themselves, to an office; (e) directly or indirectly gives or offers, or agrees to give or offer, to a minister of the government or an official, or to anyone for the benefit of a minister or an official, a reward, advantage or benefit of any kind as consideration for cooperation, assistance, exercise of influence, or an act or omission, by that minister or official, in connection with (i) anything mentioned in subparagraph (a)(iii) or (iv), or (ii) the appointment of any person, including themselves, to an office; or (f) having made a tender to obtain a contract with the government, (i) directly or indirectly gives or offers, or agrees to give or offer, to another person who has made a tender, to a member of that person’s family or to another person for the benefit of that person, a reward, advantage or benefit of any kind as consideration for the withdrawal of the tender of that person, or(ii) directly or indirectly demands, accepts or offers or agrees to accept from another person who has made a tender a reward, advantage or benefit of any kind for themselves or another person as consideration for the withdrawal of their own tender. The above states that neither the Prime Minister or any other government official can give an advantage to Lavalin of any kind or ask the AG to do the same. 2.The Attorney General of Canada has no power or role to withdraw a persecution based on any consideration that lends to the appearance of or is in fact a conflict of interest or based on a partisan consideration which is what Trudeau asked her to do. I urge anyone to go and look up for themselves the AG job description because it is legal fact and public domain and that is that The Attorney General of Canada is the highest-ranking prosecuting officer in Canada and can not withhold a crown prosecution based on a political consideration. It is true on the federal level, the Attorney General is also the Minister of Justice whereas in some of the Canada’s provinces, the attorney general’s office conducts the functions of the Solicitor General’s office as well; but in other provinces, they are separated and each of them performs different responsibilities. However when the Ministry of Justice serves as the AG, the chief law officer of the Executive Council, the Attorney General is obliged to see that the public affairs are administered in accordance with the legal regulations in the country. The well known principle of the rule of law requires that the Attorney General advise the Cabinet of the Government of the dayin order to ensure that the Cabinet’s actions are legal and constitutionally valid and that the rule of law is maintained. Let’s also make this crystal clear. When the AG gives legal advise as to administering public affairs in a legal manner it can NOT be ignored. The Attorney General is in legal factr esponsible for all criminal prosecutions in the country. However, it is true there are certain prosecutions conducted by the provincial Attorney General authorities under the Canadian Criminal Code (not the case at hand). In legal fact the Attorney General of never cause charges to be laid – that ultimate decision is in the hands of the applicable police authority. Let us be as clear as possible., The Attorney General MUST t fulfil theircriminal prosecution duties independently of any political or government pressure precisely because these duties require fairness of the presentation of cases and does not necessarily result in a conviction. . The Attorney General has what is called “Crown’s parens patriae authority” which means the AG has a constitutional responsibility to protect the public interest and public rights in the country. Those public interests and rights necessarily mean the AG must protect the legal system from any real or appearance of non judicial independence. Until Justin Trudeau this has never been an issue and it is so unusual that five former Attorney Generals who do not know her came out in favour of her and have commenced a legal action against Trudeau. 3.The Prime Minister, the Privy Council head and the PMO’s office violated s.121 of the Criminal Code. All of the above have admitted on public record of having attempted to pressure the AG not to pursue a prosecution against Lavalin and felt that pressure was appropriate and legal. In so doing they have admitted to actions that could be in violation of s.121 and they should have known lent to the appearance of violating s.121 and most certainly created a direct conflict of interest between the Prime Minister’s partisan concerns regarding alienating Quebec voters with the public interest of protecting all Canadians including Quebecers from the alleged criminal behaviour of Lavalin. 4.The Privy Council head admitted to acting outside his job description. Again and you can look it up its public domain the Privy Council head’s job is to advise the Prime Minister and elected Government officials in providing objective, non-partisan, public policy perspective. The Privy Council head has admitted on public record his perspective given to the AG was based not on non partisan objective considerations but partisan ones, specifically the need to treat Lavalin differently and favourably due to a fear not doing so would alienate Quebec voters. That consideration of alienating Quebec voters is not and was never the domain of the Privy Council head to discuss or mention to the AG on her role as the AG. 5.The fact an action is legal does not make it ethical or acceptable. Liberals are now trying to argue since Trudeau did not order the AG and only pressured her its not illegal and therefore excusable behaviour. This is not logical. Something most certainly can be unethical but be legal. To determine if what Trudeau did was ethical one I would contend should ask, what is the purpose of criminal sentencing? Is it to allow corporations a special standard of favourable treatment (leniency in sentencing) when they commit a crime because they employ Quebecers who might if unemployed not vote for Trudeau? Is that the purpose? Without knowing anything else does one really need to be told that if we allowed Lavalin leniency on these grounds than necessarily every criminal who runs a business that employs people should be given leniency. Is that in the best interests of the public? Does undermining criminal law act in the best interests of the public? Can you imagine what Liberals would say if the Tories tried to do this. We know what they said. Years ago when Jean Charest as Sports Minister in the Mulroney cabinet called up a Judge in his riding to try influence the sentence for a constituent, the Liberals demanded his resignation. Now with this Prime Minister they cheer him on although as of today a vital cabinet Minister resigned out of protect along with the AG. This is the same Prime Minister while trying to interfere with pressure NOT to prosecute Lavalin in an on-going criminal proceeding told the government of China he can not intervene with on-going criminal proceedings under any circumstance because of the rule of law and thus could not intervene over the Hua Wei extradition matter? Why the disconnect and utter contradiction? Next to find out what the purpose of criminal sentencing is just go to s.718 of the Criminal Code and you will see it does NOT and has never equated a sentencing principal with partisan political considerations. Its primary purpose is to deter crime and serve a message to all citizens NOT to commit a crime. 6.The current scandal goes to a repeated pattern of showing contempt for the law by Trudeau. In fact since Trudeau was elected he has repeated a pattern of showing contempt for the law and being above it: i-he went on vacation paid for and hosted by the Aga Kahn knowing the Aga Kahn at the same time was lobbying Trudeau’s government for funding; ii-rather than test in court whether Kadr was entitled to any financial compensation he chose to pay him off with $10 million dollars in a back room deal usurping the role of the AG at that time and putting the needs of Kadr before a broader policy consideration as to whether anyone committing a crime regardless of age should benefit financially from that crime and in so doing has created a legal precedent to compensate returning terrorists to Canada; iii- knowingly violates a safe third country law that says a refugee coming from a safe third country who makes a claim for refugee status in Canada can NOT and must be sent back to the safe third party to make the refugee claim-what Trudeau has done is to openly violate the law penalizing any refugee claimant coming from the US to a legal port of entry in Canada by rejecting their claims BUT with illegal entrants who break the law and knowingly break it by entering illegally, they are rewarded with an expedited refugee process-this is a flagrant violation of immigration law and the creation of an unfair double standard; iv-had his Foreign Minister pose for the t.v. cameras allowing privileged entry as a refugee to a Saudi Arabian young woman on the grounds and I quote “she reminds me of my daughter” which not only was absolutely completely inappropriate and a subjective bias statement undermining the objective criteria immigration entry consideration should consider but now sets a precedent that anyone who reminds the Foreign Minister of her daughter should be admitted as a refugee. This is how absurd its become 7-The current scandal shows Trudeau is not the feminist he claims he is. Upon being elected and during the campaign, Trudeau stated if a woman claims to be harassed we must take her at her word. However when his AG told him to stop harassing her he persisted and fired her and has told the public not to believe her. He is a classic example of someone who harasses and then asks you not to believe he harassed. In fact Mr. Trudeau et al admitted to pressuring her. Now they would have you believe repeated pressuring is not harassment. 8-Mr. Trudeau claims to understand Indigenous people but clearly shows contempt for them. On being elected Mr. Trudeau claimed Canada’s ethical standards failed to live up to the Indigenous peoples’ expectations and he would change them to honour the ethical codes of Indigenous peoples. Since being elected he has done absolutely nothing for aboriginals despite numerous promises and appointing not one but two Ministers neither who has achieved any new policy or implemented any new law or paid off any outstanding litigation cases for treaty violations. The Truth Commission Trudeau created fell apart. Not only that he had the nerve on capital hill during a protest to walk in and out of a teepee of protesters declaring to the press he was and is the only Prime Minister ever to do anything for the indigenous peoples. Then to add to this absurdity, he knowingly hired his AG stating she was Indigenous and he hired her among other reasons for her reputation as a truth seeker, i.e., an elder in her community who comes from a long line of elders who uphold a high ethical standard of integrity in any dealings. Then when she lives up to this reputation he fires her for refusing to go outside her job description and allow herself to do something unethical, i.e., be influenced by a non legal consideration to undermine a criminal trial. Let’s be clear the charges against Lavalin came in 2015. When the officers of Lavalin knew they would be charged triggering a share devaluation they remained silent but used their insider knowledge to sell shares at a high value before the announcement was made. On the day the announcement was made that they were being charged, all officers had sold their shares and the stocks devalued from $25 to $14 dollars. Shareholders finding out about this insider trading then filed a class action law suit which is still pending and would be prejudiced by a lenient criminal sentence. Summary Never in the history of a ruling government in Canada has a Prime Minister acted so blatantly conflicted and in such a clumsy manner in failing to keep partisan interests detached from non partisan legal proceedings. One only has to review the cases on influence peddling. Nowhere have we seen such behaviour. The closest to it was John A. MacDonald taking kickbacks on the rail road or Marcel Duplessis in Quebec, Joey Smallwood and Bennet in Newfoundland, and WAC Bennet in B.C. all who were accused of patronage and kick backs but never lobbied or tried to interfere with a criminal proceeding. Not even the Irving and McCain empires in and influence in Nova Scotia or New Brunswick tried to influence an on-going criminal trial. In fact I challenge anyone to find any Canadian government that allowed a criminal to lobby 80 times in 3 years as Lavalin has done from 2016 to 2019 with the Liberals to try influence their sentence. Let’s also be clear. In addition to a criminal fine, officers in Lavalin face jail time AND most importantly the sentence may prevent Lavalin from being able to get any federal contract for 10 years. That is what Trudeau panicked over. He fired his AG when he could not pressure her knowing he could not order her. He now has chosen an AG who says he will consider interfering but 5 former AG’s have already challenged that and we will have if this continues probably many lawyers and law associations maybe even the Law Societies of Canada challenge Trudeau and his AG if they try interfere and force a deferred prosecution order to prevent a trial. Let’s also get one other thing clear. In a plea bargain, any agreed plea must still be presented to the Judge for approval and the Judge will not grant it if it ignores s.718 considerations or appears in conflict with them which Lavalin considerations would. Knowing that Trudeau sought in a deferred prosecution agreement to have the trial or proceedings stopped so a Judge could not get involved to review the appropriateness of the pleadings. It is a deliberate run around of the court’s jurisdiction and role to influence a political consideration. Here is what makes it even more disgusting and unethical. Trudeau said in his last campaign he would never pass an omnibus bill to hide an unpopular law-he would openly discuss that law. Trudeau since elected has demonstrated he will NOT answer questions in Parliament. He out and out refuses showing contempt for the Opposition with canned scripted answers that do not answer the question. Not only that but the deferred prosecution agreement passed by his government was planted inside an omnibus bill in the last second to pass it through so there would be no debate on it. His own Justice committee MP did not know it was passed and disagreed with it and said so publically! Can it get any more ridiculous? Oh you bet. Now Liberals are trying to claim the AG was not qualified to do her job. Yes this coming from people who have no problem feeling the PM’s qualification of being a drama supply teacher at a private high school for less than one year constitutes sufficient training to be PM of Canada.

Another nail in the coffin. Ahahah. Let's see these pathetic Liberals spin out of this one.

Embassies absolutely have the role of safeguarding the rights of Canada and Canadian citizens and interests in the country they operate and this includes: 1-establishing and renewing passports and other official documents 2- reporting Births, Deaths, Marriages, Divorces, Adoptions etc. happened in the host country to the competent authorities back in Canada 3-helping Canadian citizens in distress or other emergency situations. 4-looking after Canadians in detention or arrest and to watch over the rule of law and fair trials. As well due to our membership in the British Commonwealth, the United Kingdom steps in as our government representative through its embassy in the applicable country overseas if we have no Canadian embassy in that country but the UK does. We also have the same agreement with Australia where we look after each other's citizens where one of us does not have an embassy in the country abroad but the other does. There is in fact a government web-site explaining some of these services at: https://travel.gc.ca/assistance We have a registration service that allows embassies to track you overseas in the event of a disaster: https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/registration .

Thanks Cannuck. It is our big lips.I have been mistaken for a vacuum cleaner, catfish, remora ray, leech, mosquito,dung fly. I could have been a dentist, stand up comedian hell even a proctologist who handle the same matters but at least with gloves..but no...I chose this Noble profession. Now remember not all of us are made to be drama teachers. Ahem that said I think Scrib is right and Jody will be given a judgeship high up in the fed crt. Excuse me I gave to go gargle. It's an occupational safety thing.

Sprinkled in with the references to Thatcher's mammory glands are some references that refer to classic Liberalism. If you are referring to such persons as Bentham you would know that would never fly in the US. Bentham's postulations would never match the individual rights most Americans believe are birth rights although in fact illusions in their state which has them believe they are individuals in law while in fact managing them as mindless sheep. All countries fuel the illusion of freedom to be able to control their populations including those of us in the Queen's nanny state as you would refer to it here in United Empire Loyalist Dominion of Canada where we strongly believe in gun control and medicare. The very symbol of the crown as head of state is in fact simply a Freudian symbol for a large breast that all members of the family must suck. Using your analogy Queen Elizabeth is one large and well chewed upon breast. Then again you never met Golda Maier or took a sauna with her. That said what ails the US the topic of this thread is not Democrats or Republicans, those are meaningless words lending to the illusion of choice in political debate when there is none, its the lack of vision and leadership. The US education system does not cultivate leaders let alone visionaries. That was terminated with the downfall of Nixon the final fatal blow to any US collective innocence. Vietnam and Nixon ended any remaining sense of unity, idealism or concept of justice for Americans. Since Nixon its been a series of weak, compromised, shallow leaders the most popular one being a B actor having served his entire 8 years in office with Alzheimer's disease and his wife whispering in his ear to sit up and not dribble upstairs or downstairs...and people found that charming. We have across the West a lack of leaders coming out of our education system. We have no shortage of followers, number crunchers, financial clerks. Its only a matter of time until Alexa the Amazon portal to Satan is elected US President People want simple, easy to understand responses from a robot. Circus clowns like Trudeau and Trump are going the way of Ronald MacDonald-they are passe. A clown today is associated with child molesters or politicians nothing else, and so it will be replaced since being either is anti-social and causes great harm to all of society. Both molest. Robots will be running Canada within years. Alexa, how much tax should be charge on carbon?

I wash my hands of many things especially the Privy Council Head, Justin and the weight issues of Jody, Doug (the other one) and the Foreign Minister who insists on dressing like a stuffed sausage. I want decorum and dignity in office and people who understand the need to taper and modify garments to fit their contours.

You find it credible when someone who is supposed to be politically neutral engages in politically partisan criticism? You find it credible for someone who should not have a political opinion to incite and inflame the public making idiotic comments about assassination? You call that credible? If this idiot thought there was an imminent threat to the public he would no the last thing he would want to do is fuel it or incite it by speaking about it. An idiot would understand that, this pea brained moron did not. His comments were out of order and show him to be an opinionated, arrogant, above the law, fascistic creep who bristles at anyone elected or otherwise who disagrees with him. His comments were absolutely unacceptable of any civil servant let alone the Chief civil servant. He has no right or business stating any political opinion which he did. He made numerous legal pronouncements as to the conduct of Trudeau and Butt posed as absolute legal facts when they were not and were simply his subjective political views. Whether Butt or Trudeau or anyone else crossed the line legally he has no authority to say. He has no status to render legal judgement as to any influence peddling. The law is clear, if there is even an appearance of conflict or undue influence, the discussion should be referred to the Ethics Commissioner for screening not this sphincter muscle of a Privy Council head who is clearly partisan in favour of Trudeau and a passive aggressive weasel. He will when all is said and done be fired. He has made his job impossible to perform and I think he clearly came out in favour of Trudeau as he will not be around after the next election and this was his last fart at the wind.

You can get a small electric battery or even a gas engine put on your bike to help with the hills. May not be a bad idea depending on how far you have to go. To be serious, we are headed the way of very small, driverless, computerized vehicles people rent by the hour at pick up stations. I would predict computer giants will get in on that. Its the wave of the future in inner cities where its already being tested. In say the next 100 years if we don't kill ourselves mass transit is going to switch over to solar, electric and hydrogen and make inner city travel faster and easier and it less necessary to fly. You know I still like horses and dog sleds. Horses do give a shit but not as much a spoliticians.

You are right. There is a leak and has been for awhile suggesting Trudeau lost control of his cabinet and inner office over what he did. When polls suddenly drop the rats panic. Here is a sure sign of panic. You will note yesterday down in the polls where was Justin, why of course off at a funeral in Halifax where he had no reason to be giggling and crying and making sure the cameras focused on him instead of the funeral for 7 refugees that died in a fire. Justin once again showed what a whore he is and how he uses any opportunity, even the deaths of people in fires for political photo shoots. CTV and CBC or should I say Pravda and Tass News agencies zeroed in on both him giggling and then shedding a tear. Its pathetic crass exploitation of tragedy to try revive his image and it was disgusting and why I have no time of day for this individual. Someone send him to the Philippines to pick up the trash we are dumping their. Have him go there and shed a tear for the dumping and discuss a carbon tax with the President of the Philippines and lecture them on his concerns for the environment. He can pose on a beach and cry with a dolphin,

You change the topic yet again. So I must be careful but I did not state being unemployed is an excuse or license to commit a crime just the obvious... that there is a correlation between unemployment and crime and there is clear evidence people who work are less likely to commit crime and so that when any government right or left in Canada creates policies it is well aware of that and thus importance isplaced on employment and what happens in economically depressed communities. Captain Obvious. Unemployed people are also more like to get sick and cost society medical bills so whether you like it or not we live in a world where we are not just islands but inter-connected in many ways. This country with its size and weather alone required a level of centralized cooperation for people to have survived and built a nation. That's an apolitical observation. Now back to this topic, all politicians influence peddle but I think in this case its the way Trudeau has flip flopped on the issue, passed the Omnibus bill to allow favourable treatment for SNC and now has admitted making a statement to Judge Jody two weeks after the fact that necessarily implicates him in an influence discussion not to mention his Butt boy running away with his pants on fire. It is truly stupid for Trudeau not to have admitted what he did. He passed a friggin bill to allow him to do what he did why deny it? Why because it was an Omnibus bill something he condemned the Tories for using to sneak things past the public and then Justin did the same thing to legalize influence peddling. So much for Ethics. Trudeau is doing all the things he shrilled in Parliament against, This is why the Patron Saint of Liberals, Sir Omni is silent on the Omnibus bill and Viscount Squid is in the Bahamas on vacation with the Aga Khan and avoiding calls. Now me, I have not been able to go on vacation but if I did I would go with Doug Frod and Jody just for fun to an all you can eat in Florida just to see the shock of horror of the restaurant owner and then we could all float in the water after and make our way on the currents to my favourite country Tonga which sorry to say also has a government.

cWithout going off on a tangent and with do respect Dougie Ninety Three unemployed people in Canada are more likely to commit crimes which becomes Canada's problem. http://www.johnhoward.on.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/facts-24-crime-and-unemployment-whats-the-link-march-2009.pdf For that matter any organized state has a component of what you call nanny welfare if for no other reason to prevent revolutions and the masses burning your house down when it sees you eating something they don't have. The reality is unless you live in a bubble your government has social obligations and so collects taxes for police, fire, ambulance, hospital services. If you can find an ideal state where one does not need any state structure at all do let me know. Now back to the actual issue of this thread, SNC whether you like it or not, like any large multi-national dictates the policies of government. Its how our economy works. The only other working model is the Chinese one where the state has a monopoly. Either way, whether its the state or the multi-nationals calling the shots, people like Trudeau are pissantes. They come and go in history with no impact. They are farts in the wind. Their reign is brief, their smell even briefer. Trudeau's lustre was bound to wear off and the reality of politics sink in. He has had this naïve belief his honeymoon period would reign forever. He is a narcissist. He can not imagine anyone not liking him or disagreeing with him. When that happens he has a tantrum. Its very simple psychology, Mama and Papa never said no. Papa was never at home and Mama was a manic depressive who he felt responsible for protecting from her mood swings, thus his fabricated sense of understanding and caring for women and his feminine mannerisms to make him less threatening to his mother who he thought mood affected because of her fear of men. Its not hard to profile him and his fall from grace as all martyrs do, or his inability to deal with strong women and his need to surround himself with gay effeminate cabinet Ministers or weak women. Its all part and parcel of the fragile, confused, broken ego. He's afraid of his own body let alone penis Freud would say. Now the next move will be bizarre. The only way he could put this to bed is to put Jody back on the throne which she wants and he can't do unless he wishes to commit political suicide and anoint his successor. That is possible as people with his upbringing when not idolized usually move on. I would predict he could very well quit in the next year being replaced by her at a convention and turning to some entertainment job like Ben Mulroney his doppleganger who has the same issues but transferred them into accepting his role as a fluff piece of air headed nothingness. It would not surprise me at all if Justin turns to being a t.v. show journalist. It would allow him to maintain his public persona without any need to justify his opinions to get elected.

The fact they fired Butt Boy means the caucus sided with Judge Jody on this one and Trudeau had to save face on an inside revolt particularly when he has posed himself as a champion of indigenous peoples and women both of which she is. Its all about politics. The SNC discussion was all about arranging a plea as SNC is on very shaky grounds and the imprisonment of an executive or ban on fed contracts with SNC could tip it into bankruptcy causing thousands of lost jobs in Quebec. This federal government is committed to SNC, Bombardier and Quebec Hydro at all costs to get Quebec votes. Pretty much the same applies for any government running Canada. No one should be surprised by political interference discussions. I am not so sure this is the only government that has done this. The Liberals though went so far getting elected criticizing Tories for doing this. They also said they would never pass omnibus bills but passed one changing the law to sneak in the right to make a deal with SNC hoping no one would notice. This is why this government is particularly nasty. it claims it would balance the books by 2019 and never run a deficit after that date then does an abrupt change in November of 2018 announcing hugge deficits to run into 2024. It ran claiming it was above board with ethics and there is your PM travelling on vacation with someone lobbying the government for donations. This is a PM who said no one was above the law and pays a terrorist $10 million while claiming he has no money for terrorists. This is someone who then rewards illegal entrants to Canada with the rights of refugee hearings and work permits signaling all legitimate immigrants they are fools for following the law. This is a government void of any ethical compass and should be tossed out on its slimy butt.

"We invite you to read" because clearly you are either in denial or have a selective focus: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/nuclear-contamination-plan-containment-rolphton-cnl-algonquins-1.4584336 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-s-four-most-expensive-contaminated-sites-1.1218168 http://www.nuclear-risks.org/en/hibakusha-worldwide/elliot-lake.html https://naturalenergyhub.com/pollution/nuclear-energy-pollution/ https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/02/canadian-experts-comfy-with-radioactive-pollution-of-great-lakes/ https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/11/09/warning_port_hope_a_toxic_time_bomb_the_only_solution_move.html http://www.waterkeeper.ca/blog/2016/11/8/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-port-hope-area-radioactive-waste-cleanup https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/a-closer-look-at-canada-s-nuclear-plants-1.1194756 http://www.stopthegreatlakesnucleardump.com/reasons.php The future if it will exist will need to rely on sustainable energy and that means RENEWABLE energy from wind, water, solar and hydrogen. Read your platform right. What a joke. Call me when you join Hair Club For Men. They have a special discount for people who work at nuke plants or live near them.

No one should be spinning their Liberal butt cheeks over this one. Its clear as hell. The Liberals only wanted a fine with SNC because they were worried a criminal sentence of executives could cause a stock collapse of SNC and they were also worried anything but a fine could prevent SNC from getting fed contracts and force it to go bankrupt.,We all get it. SNC is a large employer in Quebec. Politically if the company collapsed it would be a disaster for Liberals in Quebec trying to get re-elected especially Lord Justin of Truedough. So there was pitter patter in Judge Jody's office and a suggestion she go along with the fine and clearly she did not. For her not to toe the line should be no surprise. She is aboriginal and like most aboriginals in office feels Trudeau has made a fool of aboriginals in the federal portfolio with all his fake promises with nothing to show. He raised hopes and expectations like the little peacock he was during his honeymoon phase pandering to anyone who would take a photo op with him and the promises he spit out rapid fire were bound to go nowhere. She clearly was not going to run again and feels pissed off at Justin poo over many things not just SNC. That said he is not nor will he be the last PM who sends his minions to bend the law and make a mockery of it because of political votes. This man has shown himself to be a political whore literally giving the country a blow job bending each way the wind blows so to speak. Now he's finding his own act hard to swallow and he's choking on it as he was bound to do. SNC Lavalin is a result of a government thinking its above the law no different than the message it sent over Kadr, about illegal immigrants, about going on vacation with people lobbying the government for funds. This is Trudeau, born in a world where no one said no to him. He's a soft boy with no limitations ever taught to him and taking responsibility for his mistakes is not something he was taught as witnessed by his pathetic attempt to blame everything on Judge Jody. He's done on this one. No amount of spin and no amount of him ignoring questions in Parliament are going to help and neither is his pathetic attempt at dumping his decisions on people who have resigned. There was a time a politician accepted responsibility for their decisions, not this slip and slide vasoline Prime Minister. In any event its a gift for Schneer who now has a lightening rod he can use . The joke is watching Jagmeet Singh trying to jump on the band wagon. here's the thing about Jagmeet Singh its a little to late for him to contemplate how to hoo haw at Lord Justin when his beard needs a good feather dustin

Like I am deeply offended the leader of the Syncretic Party ignored moi. I will say the politically syncretic approaches being claimed by this Syncretic Party Leader are a classic example of how positions that are too flexible i can not support anything. I would suggest this attempt to pose jello as something solid he grasps is an absurdity. He can try hold it all he wants it simply oozes out and makes a mess. This is why someone invented diapers by the way,

Hey you can't use the word fairies anymore. The politically correct reference is Liberal Party of Canada.

. Lol. Now I feel bad accusing Z man of smoking Liberal doobies on the other thread re. Jody out to get Justin. Lol. Z man we both know your secret...Judy Lamarsh was your hero!

Z is a middle of the roader like many of us on this forum. You have to read all his posts. He is a genuine middle of the roader. He's also no fascist. He has opinions on all sides of the equation depending on the issues. You'll be wrong if you label him left or right or anything he is just a Z-man.

You've gone too far n. Ease up. You and I know many Canadian war vets who would disagree with the above. Don't white wash them all as idiot puppets. Tell me if I am wrong if you want but Rear Admiral Murray and Commander Prentice were no puppets and neither was Air Marshall Edwards or Maj Gen. Hoffmeister for example. Yes the allied forces were loyal to the British command to an extent but come on we had some powerful men who did their own damn thing when they had to. I also think and you are well aware we considered Churchill our leader and our military was genuinely an admirer of Churchill and King George nnot McKenzie King who was an embarrassment. Back on topic our country was founded by people who wanted to keep paying taxes to King George. We rejected the gun in favour of North West Mounted Police with no We are a nation that went so far with Lester B. Pearson so as to reinvent the gunless soldier, the peacekeeper. Hell we love leaders that lisp like Lester and Justin or are close to their mothers like Justin and Willie McKenzie King. Hell our first Prime Minister was a projectile vomiter in Parliament-that's the only thing he shot off. Diefenbaker damn near striked out over John F's missiles. We do not embrace gun swagger. I think if anyone analyzes our military history, most of our generals and military leaders of W2 who made a difference never cared to suck up to anyone but did have a chain of command they honoured yes. I think you mistake our loyalty with sucking up. That was a genuine loyalty. No one told my father and his peers to suck up to any Brit. They genuinely admired Churchill and felt a genuine loyalty to the King. It kept some of them focused on what they were fighting for. The King of England was another understated quiet leader but he was a leader. He showed up in the bombings and he carried the weight his brother abandoned not with swagger but with quite dignity. Say what you want about Churchill but his persona was not flashy it was rough, brash, crude, but always respectful of the life of each soldier. He drank himself to oblivion worrying over how many people he was getting killed...and people knew that beneath the brave façade was a caring man a true antithesis to Hitler and Stalin.

Lol thou may be right for a day or two. Canada's state broadcaster and for that matter Global and CTV however love Lord Justin and I think will refocus to Donald shortly. You do over-estimate the attention span of United Empire Loyalists on our own navel not to mention our obsession with the US genitilia I mean POTUS.

Now you put it that way, hello I agree with you on your comments unfortunately what you say is the cold reality.

Of course. You see Lord Justin expects some recognition of his divine essence. Now in your country, the leader goes out of his way to insult and generate hate to get votes while Lord Justin wishes his fans adore him and line up in the streets waving as he drives by on his chariot wih Queen Sophie and their Royal Family decked out in Royal garb. The only think Lord Justin needs to really start doing is wearing his wig, lip stick and beauty mark while fanning himself and touching his nose with his kerchief up his sleeve. Someone do get Lord Justin a twist of snuff to get the smell of the masses out of his left nostril.