betsy

Well.........talk about a boomerang! Refer to post #538. Thanks to TTM's post for this. The Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, another evidence is given to indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible, by revealing detailed knowledge of the physical world that was not understood by ‘science’ until many centuries, if not millennia, later. AXIAL TILT 1 Chron 16 30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. What is an axis? 1 the imaginary line around which a large round object, such as the Earth, turns The Earth rotates on an axis between the north and south poles. http://www.ldoceonline.com/Earth sciences-topic/axis Earth goes on a steady course. Whatever slight nutation, and wobble it goes through, is part of it. https://www.universetoday.com/47176/earths-axis/ https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/earth/indepth

Well, like the rest of those who try to criticize the Bible, your source hasn't really given thought to what he's saying. Let's take a look at 1 Chronicles 16. He argues that the earth is immovable, he gave: 1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.” He not only chopped off the rest of the statement, but he also edited most of them! He did the same to all other verses he gave. Your source wasn't getting what the verses are actually saying. Yo, It doesn't say the earth is sitting still, in one place, and not moving at all. Why do these folks resort to dishonesty? Whom are they fooling - except themselves? Think about it. Trying to distort the truth - who gets really hurt in the end? Here are the full statement: 1 Chron 16 30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. Psalm 93 1 The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Psalm 96 10 Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously. Isn't the earth stable in its course? Isn't it on its axis? Are we ricocheting all over the universe like a pinball? Your source is also making a big deal out of the term "vault"......claiming it's solid. Well, ladihdihdahdah.....that's why I said the Bible is full of figures of speech that you can't really say what's to be taken literally until it's proven otherwise! Why do you think I "cherry-pick" only those that have been reaffirmed by science?

The Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, another evidence is given to indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible, by revealing detailed knowledge of the physical world that was not understood by ‘science’ until many centuries, if not millennia, later. The preceding post about Matthew Maury had mentioned the shape of earth, let's add it to the evidence being given: The Earth is Round Isaiah 40 22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, The pictures we often see - taken from space - show the earth appears as a circle since it is round. Job 26 10 He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters, At the boundary of light and darkness. That looks like a perfect round to me. Horizon | Define Horizon at Dictionary.com

Those lower court judges are all liberals! The Dems are really out to derail Trump every step of the way! Even at the expense of national security. Shame.

Omni freely admits that his argument on this topic, is off-topic! He wants to talk about separation of state and church. Omni should show some respect for the author of this thread. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/guidelines/ Actually, it was you, James, who'd expressed exasperation over the thread derailment a while back. Thus I posted a reminder to stay on topic. Translation: I cannot refute betsy's argument.....therefore, I'll try attacking her from a different angle. I'll use Omni! Nice try.

What do you mean how do I explain it? Don't you read the newpapers? Why do they let them in? How do they justify it? All you have to do is listen to Trudeau! And why do you say you "let" them do it? Didn't you exercise your right to vote? I voted!

I don't understand your point. You're comparing art with science - in having different way of seeing it! Artistic interpretation isn't comparable with scientific facts! Thus I gave gravity as an example. Do you have any other explanation for gravity? Why don't you answer the question?

He can prattle on about the Bible at his own leisure.......because he's on the thread about the Bible! Check the title of this topic! For crying out loud, you are in Philosophy section - and in philosophical discussions, you're expected to use REASON! http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Reason+(philosophy) Having common sense, is the most basic requirement for this section! You feel the discussion here is offensive to you, you feel the pressure, you getting hot around your collar and you're getting palpitations, you think things are being shoved down your throat...........then, use your common sense! GET OUT! Now.....stop derailing this thread!

Create your own topic! This thread is not about separation of state and church. You can speak for all the majority about anything you want..... ....................but you're not going to do it on this thread!

Do you hate all parents with children who commit crimes? You're laying the blame on all parents for the crimes of their children?

We're not talking about art. We're talking science. Would you have another way of seeing......and have any other explanation about gravity, as an example? Or why we have night and day? I think you better review my posts. You and James are missing the logic behind the argument.

Who do you think is letting the Muslims bring Sharia into western countries? Who's letting undocumented, illegals in? I gave you Montreal as an example! What good is cutting the tail of the snake......unless you cut off its head? What good is putting band-aid when you don't clean out the wound?

....or, would the school board do the same to Islamic schools? http://www.islamicacademy.ca/site/vision--mission Islam has their own doctrine for immorality, too.

I don't know anything about Fox news report. Anyway......read my response again. I explained why I think they're dangerous to the world!

Kidding aside...... ....the left poses a grave danger to the WORLD.....because in their naivete, they not only espouse socialism, but they also force it on society. Socialism leads to communism - and communism is totalitarian. We allow the left to walk freely among us - free to express their belief and exercise their choice simply because................we are not the left.

Why did I say the Left poses the gravest danger to us? What's the reason? Because of their......... S T U P I D I T Y. Can they help it if they're stupid?

Read again.

The LEFT! It's their mind-boggling, sheer stupidity that's the worst enemy! Montreal voted to become a sanctuary city - offering aid and sanctuary to illegal foreigners, which translates to abetting and encouraging it - when they can't even do something about their crumbling infrastructure. http://globalnews.ca/video/928690/montreal-residents-feel-frustrated-over-crumbling-infrastructure They can't even help their own.....like their own flood victims! http://www.iheartradio.ca/cjad/news/pierrefonds-flood-victims-feel-they-have-been-left-hanging-1.2706285 Here's the sum up of the left mentality: It's enough to make you wonder if they're the missing link. They exhibit that they never really did quite make it up there, you know.........

I don't know why people abhor God so much that rational thought flies out the window the moment someone brings up evidence of His existence. First of all, what you say is totally irrelevant in this topic. Second, you should read what's being argued about. And third, people who don't like the subject - and who don't want to have anything to do with it - ought to use their common sense: stay out of the thread. They shouldn't shove their ignorance down others' throats. They have no business dictating to others what they can say in a forum, let alone spewing senseless, juvenile garbage. Anyway........this reminds me.......I might resurrect an old topic from another forum.

The Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, another evidence is given to indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible, by revealing detailed knowledge of the physical world that was not understood by ‘science’ until many centuries, if not millennia, later. PATHS OF THE SEAS Psalm 8 8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. Matthew Maury is known as the Pathfinder of the Seas, for his role in developing wind and charts on 1847, the predecessor of today's NGA's Pilot Chart Atlas. Psalm 8 was the most known verse that gave him inspiration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Fontaine_Maury http://msi.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/StaticFiles/Files/MatthewMaury.pdf http://www.survivorlibrary.com/?p=3137 http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/damn-the-torpedoes-full-speed-ahead/?cat_orig=education THE PHYSICAL GEOGRAPHY OF THE SEA AND ITS METEOROLOGY by: Matthew Fontaine Maury https://books.google.ca/books?id=pFu_G8USY8EC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=And+as+for+the+general+system+of+circulation+which+I+have+been+so+long+endeavoring+to+describe,+the+Bible+tells+it+all+in+a+single+sentence&source=bl&ots=lI3c0Po_SV&sig=FmUeERtIq_kS9t_gn1vrz5ivwvM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwip4pKxq9fUAhVK2oMKHWwiCtwQ6AEIMTAG#v=onepage&q=And as for the general system of circulation which I have been so long endeavoring to describe%2C the Bible tells it all in a single sentence&f=false

Let's do a recap: The Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation - evidences given to indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible, by revealing detailed knowledge of the physical world that was not understood by ‘science’ until many centuries, if not millennia, later. Refer to post # 57 for some detailed explanations. All from the Book of Genesis 1 and 2: *In the beginning (consistent with science's discovery that the universe had a beginning) *All waters gather to one place, and land appear (consistent with science's claim that in the early times there was only one super ocean and only one super continent - Pangaea and Panthalassa) *The waters bringing forth creatures that has life (compatible with evolutionist claim that life started in the water). *"After their kind" in relation to reproduction - without any mention of genders, except to humans - male and female - (consistent with science discovery that some species don't require a mate in order to reproduce. Some creatures are asexual) *God formed man from dust (consistent with science finding that the human body is made up of elements that comes from dirt/dust). *God's curse towards the snake that it would from henceforth crawl on its belly and eat dust (compatible with science's discovery that snakes used to have limbs or legs) *Man's dominion of animals (consistent with reality - as can be observed, even today) ------------------------ *Stretches the Heavens (consistent with science discovery that the universe is stretching). Take note that most of the verses uses the present tense "stretches." How appropriate! The universe is still stretching. Job 9:8 He alone stretches out the heavens _ and treads on the waves of the sea. Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22; Isaiah 42:5; Isaiah 44:24; Isaiah 45:12; Isaiah 48:13; Isaiah 51:13; Jeremiah 10:12 Jeremiah 51:15; Zechariah 12:1 ----------------------------------------------------------- *Psalm 102:25-26, Isaiah 51:6, Hebrews 1:10-11 indicate the universe is wearing out (consistent with the Second Law of Thermodynamics) Hydrological Cycle post #454 Atoms post #478 Springs in the Oceans post #493

True Lies! Among my fave of light comedy/romance/adventure from Ahnold!

This thread is titled, "The Nostalgia Thread." nos·tal·gia 1. a sentimental longing or wistful affection for the past, typically for a period or place with happy personal associations: https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=nostalgia+definition&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004 Kindly create your own separate thread for gory and tragic events, and for any political message you may want to give.