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Nothing that I have quoted is contradictory to what is said on the above link or the Federal Reserve website. They tell you the truth - just not the whole truth. Another great source of info is the UK Reformer website, British Association for Monetary Reform They also have a reform party. The Brits are much further along in this than US or Canada and have many websites devoted to this topic along with many very simple books written by economists.

The Taliban was destroyed within the first few weeks of the invasion. They were destroeyed because they were destroying the opium crops that the west depends on for income to conduct secret wars and coups of free governments around the world to replace them with dictatorships. The west has been doing this for 50 years and the money from opium crops has been financing it. Aristide was a freely elected leader of Haiti. The west invaded because Haiti was free and must be put into a socialist government that sells the people out to the banks. Corrupt leaders are simply paid off and our private banks go in and finance the reconstruction after the war and put the people into debt. The country then becomes corporate controlled because it needs to finance the debt and has the slaves make our running shoes and T shirts while our corporations get rich from it all. Of course no one gets richer than the bankers because they are the ones that print the money but they also control the media which is why most people don't know about all this. This is how the world is being subject to central banker control. The subjugation of people around the world is taking place as our governments fall further into debt to the bankers. Its doom guarenteed. Our economies must collapse at some point - our national debt is always rising and there are always fewer tax dollars to pay for public services. 28 % of your income tax goes to private bankers now and that will always increase. See Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man by Perkins.

The Canadian Action Party is the monetary reformist party in Canada. Due to their position on monetary reform you will never see them invited to a debate with the other banker controlled parties. To learn more about banking, visit the Canadian Action Party website. CAP website

Many people still wonder why they vote for different politicians but nothing really ever changes. The reason for this is that the government really doesn't have much say in how the countries are run. Private bankers have a near monopoly on the production of money and they are the richest people in the world. They make people like Warren Buffet & Bill Gates seem like trailer trash. The wealth of the Rothschilds has been estimated at between somewhere between 300 trillion and 700 trillion. Rockefeller is worth well over 12 trillion. These people control society from behind the scenes. In the USA you have a choice between the Rockefeller Democrats and the Rockefeller Republicans. The bankers only create currency that is lent money, therefore every dollar in circulation is money earning interest for bankers. The money stops earning interest when it is paid back. Many people think that banks loan money from their deposits, this is not true. If this was true, not most people, all corporations and government could simultaneously be in debt. Bankers actually create money when it is borrowed. This mean that when someone builds a building or a bomb or a road, the banks actually profit by the amount of the project and they only have the expense of creating the money, most of which is electronic money and costs virtually nothing to create. In economics classes in university, the creation of money is actually carefully handled and almost skipped over so that no one notices. There are many books on this subject, The Creature From Jekyll Island is my favorite. Money by John Kenneth Galbraith says that bankers affectively control the USA but it is only given a single paragraph and the importance of the statement is not made clear in his book. This is typical establishment taught economics. Bankers control publishing houses, the education systems all over the world, medical advances (Rockefeller bought all the cancer clinics in the 30's) and direct government policy. It is not surprising that most people do not know of the incredible power that bankers have on our society. Many neoliberal sycophant fascists on this group will deny this fact. The bankers have such a great power over our society that most people simply do not know how money comes into being. The bankers are taking our society down a very dangerous path. Laws, military activity and the existence of detention centers parallels what happed in NAZI Germany in the 30's. Thought control is so great that many people are just waiting for Jesus to come down and save them because they do not know how society works and think dark powers are at work. Daqrk powers are at work and they have the New World Order in mind, a world government run by central bankers and the intellectual elite. They want to brebuild the world in a Straussian myth based Machiavellian society. Many employed professionals already understand this and think they will be needed in the New World Order. If you wish to learn more and understand the direction of which our sciety is going, watch the Money Masters, a free video on Google. The Money Masters. Many other great free documentaries are on this page. Terrorstorm is also particularly good & important. Monetary reform is the most important issue of today. Public awareness can bring about monetary reform. Education builds public awareness. Please watch the documentary - its all based on historical facts. If we got monetary reform, power of the banks over media would dissapear and we would get the truth about other things such as global warming and all the wars. Monetary reform would transform our society. We currently pay 28 % of our income tax to private bankers.

Your only arguement against controlled demolition is that you cannot figure out how they would wire the building. Big deal !! Are you an intelligence expert now too ? Many intelligence people have said that would be easy. I can't imagine how it would be difficult to secretly wire a building over a period of a few years for controlled demolition. The physics shows the official explanation is impossible, therefore we are left with the only other viable possibility of controlled demolition. Buildings have only completely collapsed into their own footprint as a result of controlled demolition. Only bombs could explain how building parts were ejected upwards and away from the building the way they were during the collapse.

So you are now at the point where you suggest that science is wrong because it shows that 911 was an inside job. All the science wrt mechanics of a building is already known. There will be no more "new" Newtonian physics. It would be impossible to absolutely prove what did happen, fortunately, it is easy to prove what didn't happen and this leaves what did happen very obvious. There is a lot of both circumstantial and hard evidence that supports the conclusion of what is obvious.

I think Harper deserves to be tried for treason - same with Martin - for the (secret) North American Union.

Don't be fooled by this guy because mainstream is giving him lots of publicity which means he has been approved by the CFR. The gloabalists always pick a nobody and put him on the ticket. Who ever heard of Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter before they met with the CFR and the CFR put them on the presidential ticket. Vote Ron Paul (Republican) because he speaks against the Federal Reserve and the New World Order. Him running is the result of a grass roots movement.

Nope, try:If one is designing a building in order to ensure it does not collpase, then one would very likely examine how a collapse would occurstart in order to determine the best way to prevent it. You would not analyze a whole collapse. Once it starts you are already fired. An engineer would never model a collapse. The proof is that the building was bombed, it didn't just fall down. The assumption is that the government would be the only ones capable of doing it. I'm not sure what you are talking about wrt extraneous aircraft but I would guess that you are just trying to put words in my mouth to help win your arguement because you know that your arguements don't stand on their own merit.

No, I'm not saying that. Can't you look at any details or is the world black and white ? Jets did crash into the buildings but that alone was not enough to bring the buildings down the way they fell. It would be very rare for a civil engineer to study the actual mechanics of a collapse. Their idea is to prevent it from happening. Its like going to a car manufacterer to fix your head after it slammed into the windshield due to a failed seat belt. The seat belts prevent your head from hitting the windshield but if it does you have to go to the doctor. Any engineers or physisists that speak out about this lose their jobs. They are very dependent on government contracts. Besides, you don't have to be an engineer to understand the simple physics that shows 911 was an inside job any more than you need to be a mathemetician to know that 2+2 doesn't equal 5. Watch 911 Mysteries Part1: Demolition. Its a free video on google. 911 Mysteries. Its the best of the approximately ten documentaries done on 911 so far.

This has been on TV, Cheney and others have made enourmous profits from these wars, the oil business will make enourmous profit from the wars and the banks will make much more than either of these two put togather (by math not what by mainstream is telling us). So who do you want to elect next time, the Rockefeller Democrats or the Rockefeller Republicans ?

The banks and defence corporations decide what foreign policy is. The president is just along for the ride.

They want to erase all knowledge - things like knowledge of usery and morality get in their way. They want to own the planet and all of its people in entirety. They want 500,000 people on every continent with 200,00 slaves. It doesn't really matter what they want to do after you are dead does it ? Their plans are obvious if you choose to look

Check in with the site www.infowars.com. When Alex Jones finishes the movie he will put it up on Google for you to watch for free. It should be there in a month or so. I'll be posting about it when it does come out. It will be the most concise info source on it. You could also read Bushes unauthorized biagraphy by Tarpley - its free on the web as well. Jones uses mainstream media clips and official documents to prove his points. The camps can mainly be found at large railway intersections because rail is the most efficient way of moving people. Look up "Operation Night Train 84" or "Rex - 84" by Oliver North to see how it will all happen. It will happen quick and they will execute 350,000 people per day by going into cities in the middle of the night, knocking doors down and taking you away before you have a cahnce to react. This is from official government documents. Also look up P2-OG an official government document about terroism. All the info is out there - its the information age.

You can hear about it at Republic Broadcasting Network. Alex Jones is making a new movie. it will consist mainly of various news clips and other mainstream sources that lay it all out. The existence of the camps came out during the Iran - Contra affair on TV. They only build these things for one reason..

The death camps are not a matter of opinion. They exist everywhere and its just been on mainstream that Haliburton just got another no bidder at around 380 million. Every year or two this comes up in the news. Most of the FEMA budget is secret. Of course most people will refuse to acknowledge the truth, thats how these guys can get away with it. Do you think the construction of death camps in Germany was in their newspapers ?

There is a free book on line about the Bushes here. (by Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaiken) 1 --- THE HOUSE OF BUSH: BORN IN A BANK (33,914 bytes) 2 --- THE HITLER PROJECT (55,321 bytes) 3 --- RACE HYGIENE: THREE BUSH FAMILY ALLIANCES (51,987 bytes) 4 --- THE CENTER OF POWER IS IN WASHINGTON (51,699 bytes) 5 --- POPPY AND MOMMY (47,684 bytes) 6 --- BUSH IN WORLD WAR II (36,992 bytes) 7 --- SKULL AND BONES: THE RACIST NIGHTMARE AT YALE (56,508 bytes) 8 --- THE PERMIAN BASIN GANG (64,269 bytes) 8-b --- THE BAY OF PIGS AND THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION(46,903 bytes) 9 --- BUSH CHALLENGES YARBOROUGH FOR THE SENATE (110,435 bytes) 10 -- RUBBERS GOES TO CONGRESS(129,439 bytes) 11 -- UNITED NATIONS AMBASSADOR, KISSINGER CLONE (99,842 bytes) 12 -- CHAIRMAN GEORGE IN WATERGATE (104,415 bytes) 13 -- BUSH ATTEMPTS THE VICE PRESIDENCY, 1974 (27,973 bytes) 14 -- BUSH IN BEIJING (53,896 bytes) 15 -- CIA DIRECTOR (174,012 bytes) 16-- CAMPAIGN 1980 (139,823 bytes) 17 -- THE ATTEMPTED COUP D'ETAT OF MARCH 30, 1981 (87,300 bytes) 18 -- IRAN-CONTRA (140,338 bytes) 19 -- THE LEVERAGED BUYOUT MOB(67,559 bytes) 20 -- THE PHONY WAR ON DRUGS(26,295 bytes) 21 -- OMAHA (25,969 bytes) 22 -- BUSH TAKES THE PRESIDENCY(112,000) 23 -- THE END OF HISTORY (168,757 bytes) 24 -- THE NEW WORLD ORDER (255,215 bytes)

That is exacvtly what they want people to do. It would usher in the police state that much faster. Once they have total control and can see everyone they can organize mass executions. The detention centers are there for a reason and no one has ever made a complex network of detention centers all linked by rail like this without the intention of mass execution. Its the only possible explanation - else who would feed all these occupants ? The New World Order has a new language and they want to rebuild civilization from the ground up and reshape human belief. They are effectively conqueriung the world and will want to erase all the old knowledge. There will be adults but less than a small fraction of 1 % and they will pledge allegiance to Lucifer. "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose members have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion over forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop a plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the work now is much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practised in past centuries"- David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, at the Trilteral commission in June 1991. Also see New World Order Quotes

You first have to read about the history of money to understand it then spread the word and build awareness. The best way to do this is to get people to watch The Money Masters - a free video on google. There are other sources and videos as well. The Monopoly Men is a free video on google that was a documentary on TV in the 60's, same as The Capitalist Conspiracy. You can see these both on Google video for free. Canada, USA and the UK have monetary reform parties, get involved with them. In Canada its the Canadian Action Party, In UK its the Reform Party in the USA its Lyndon LaRouche. Most importantly, to understand the world you must listen to a variety of news sources that are not part of the corporate controlled media. The corporate controlled media is just there to spread propoganda and is tightly controlled by the Pentagon. If bankers control the world then banker controlled governments will manage you with propoganda. You will easily see that bankers indeed do run the world and it can't be denied by economists although it is never spoken of. Talk with an economist and learn how the banks work.

There was a lot more energy involved in the collapse than the potential energy of the building, it doesn't matter how much more just that there was more and that is obvious from simple physics. A safe assumption due to this energy deficit is that bombs did it. Of course it could be something else - martians, the "other side", dwarfs that live under the earths crust.. I think bombs are the most reasonable explanation. The explanation of it collapsing under its own weight has been disproven. Your questions that you have have been answered by the truth movement as hypothesis but no one will ever know how the explosives were planted. No, it does not explain this at all. It only explains the fires and gives an unlikely explanation as to how the collapse initiated. It does not explain how the whole building collapsed. It stops short of explaining the collapses.

Not true. All that needs to be shown is that the energy involved in the collapse is greater than that supplied by the potential energy of the buildings, which has been done in many different ways by many different people. Tell Stephen Jones (Phd) that. He thinks that proves explosives were used. FEMA could not explain the existence of sulfidization and they knew there was drywall in the buildings.

Not if the impact wrecks less than half of the supports and the remained of the supports are at half strength and the builkding is built with a six times overbuild in the center and 20 at the edges. Simple math shows that.

I'm not talking about cause of the collapse, I am talking about the nature of the actual collapse. You don't treat people with sickness due to lack of nutrition just by giving them nutrition - did you see Band Of Brothers when they went to the concentration camp ? I've had lack of nutrition from working too hard and not eating right, believe me a nutritionist is not who you go see.

I don't personally have the evidence but its very well documented. Read Stephen Jones papers on it it or watch 911 Mysteries or read the FEMA report - sect 8 talks about bomb evidence - sulfidization which shows thermate or thermite was used. - At least according to a Phd physisist but I'm sure you will say its from drywall or something but FEMA doesn't think its drywall - they don't have an explanation for it that fits in with the official version. S. Jones has given conclusive evidence of explosives and this evidence is shown on most 911 videos. Thats all the questions of your post linked. The remaining paragraph is just a stupid comment. So tell me, just out of curiosity, why do you want to stick up for war criminals ? Are you with the secret police ? Do you think they will let you rape a little kid in return for defending against 911 conspiracy theories ?

You need to stop watching TV NOW !! There are videos of burned civilians in Falluja. They sold Saddam his chemical weapons. They also used phosphorus on civilians in Falluja which is used to burn people alive as well as light up areas. You did know that John Woo thinks its OK to torture children in front of their parents by manipulating their genitalia with pliars right ?