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I wish I had said that.

Why can't you contribute something to this debate instead of throwing around simple one liners - is it because you know I will be able to put it down ?

You take such a dogmatic approach to things that you don't really even read whats being said. These ideas undermine a very powerful oligarchy and the fact that the ideas are being put forward by some very intelligent people and have not changed says something.

Why would someone use a nuclear missile on the USA when all they would have to do is load a pickup truck with a nuke in Mexico and just drive it across the unguarded border and blow it up wherever they want. I think the idea of a missile defence system is just plain stupid for this obvious reason.

It sure isn't lawyers, they do an incredible amount of damage to our society, and demand a high price for it. The problem is that there are no alternatives to the existing corrupt, arrogant and often exceptionally stupid legal system filled with judas goats who are too arrogant to see their real position in things. National beliefs are not enough to hold a society togather. Mutual respect is a critical but missing element in our society and there is nowhere where this more obvious than how our courts and lawyers conduct their business. Our existing society is being dismantled by the North American Union and what I see as intentional corruption. Lyndon LaRouche says that corruption is necessary to bring about our destruction, I strongly agree with that.

When the government borrows money from a bank it borrows from private bankers instead of its own bank. It should boprrow from its own bank because the government is ultimately responsible for the legitimacy of the currency. Borrowing money that says "Canada" on it from private bankers is nothing more than a straightforward rip off of the public.

I don't know - I guess people that don't mind a rising government debt due to interest. I wouldn't do it.

Yes - many. There are many medical cures and miracles that I do not believe, I'm not convinced UFO's exist although many people are and can point to evidence. Many conspiracy related sites contain opinions I do not agree with or have falsified evidence. Is there anything that a politician has ever said that you did not believe ? Have you ever heard anything on corporate mainstream media that you didn't believe ? If so, what ?

You don't just print it off and give it away, it still gets paid back so it doesn't cause inflation. Interest bearing loans to the government is not the only way of managing inflation. Its really very inefficient because you are paying unecessary interest. Borrowing money interest free than burning some of it in a fire would accomplish the same thing except power would still be taken away from the banking oligarchy.

Governments always keep two sets of books, one for the public and one for themselves. All criminals operate this way when they operate under the guise of legitimacy. First of all in the long run some inflation is justified. Secondly money put into the economy does not create inflation immediately and if it is interest free every payment works off the priciple and the money gets paid back quickly. Thirdly both the US government and Canadian governments are working very hard to destroy both countries through the formation of the North American Union. Public assets are being sold to private corpoations at discount rates while police forces are being expanded to implement the police state so that you can't do anything to stop it once you figure it out. This is why the North American Union is never discussed on the corporate controlled media. The corporations that are buying up public assets do not want you to know about it. First: No one borrows money to deposit it in a savings account, secondly if the money is put into the savings account it becomes a bank asset - money created from nothing. The interest paid is not the same as the interest owed and the bank can use the money to pay off the politicians for the next election or whatever else they want to do with it. Is there anything that a politician has ever said that you did not believe ? Have you ever heard anything on corporate mainstream media that you didn't believe ?

You can get interest free money without increasing the money supply. You can tax it back. Of course it is possible for the government to get interest free money. The private bankers can print money for nothing so why can't the BOC do it and lend it to the country at 0% or very small interest ? What is the benefit of paying interest on money when you don't have to ? Who prints off this extra money needed to pay interest ? What if this money for nothing is used to expand the economy then the extra money in the economy doesn't cause inflation because there is a larger economy to absorb it. Consequently the government can actually print money and give it away for capital works projects without it being paid back and without it causing inflation. An expanded economy requires more money. It depends on what the money gets spent on as to whether or not it gets paid back in order to manage inflation.

Thats exactly what I think. Its not equivalent to getting something for nothing, its just not paying for nothing. As far as your linked report goes, I wouldn't believe a word of it without the comprehensive annual financial report. They really play with numbers to make these reports look legitimate but most of the people that run governments these days are both traitors & criminals. Too see this, you just have to be a little bit aware of the North American Union and the war profiteering that goes on in political circles. If corporations, business, governments & individuals are all in debt then who could be the debt holder ? But as far as getting something for nothing goes, it is certainly possible when you have a fiat based money supply. You just print it off if you want it and that is something for nothing.

Did you see that on TV ? Do you think that the president of Iran said that he wants to wipe Israel off the map ? Did you know that the Pentagon spends 1.5 billion per year to shape your beliefs in this "war on terrorism" ? Why are they not bringing bombs up through the wide open Mexican/American border if they want to kill everybody ? Would that not be the easiest way ? If muslims did 911 then why have multiple people been able to prove that 911 was an inside job using physical evidence ?

I thought you had a sense of humour slightly more sophisticated than an average ten year old. Obviously I was wrong.

In a conventional controlled demolition you get lots of dust but you do not see dust being projected upwards along with large heavy chunks of buildings. Only explosives can explain this. You also have large chunks of concrete in the wreckage. On 911, wtc1 & wtc2 had almost all of their concrete converted to dust - as the building was being blown apart sequentially from the top down. It was not a conventional controlled demolition although it was a controlled demolition. Conventional controlled demolition uses implosions and the wtc1 & wtc2 demolitions used explosives. A perfect example of a conmventional controlled demolition is the demolition of wtc7 on the same day - markedly different characteristcs than the demolitions of wtc1 & wtc2.

Many people (neocon sycophant fascists and wing nuts) believe that Ahmadinejad said "Israel must be wiped off the map". Not true, see Global Research where the actual quote is given in Persian and translated. Ready to stop watching mainstream yet ?

“We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” -Paul Warburg Paul Warburg is son or grandson to "Daddy Warbucks", a character in Little Orphan Annie who is based on the Paul Warburg who was involved in creating the Federal Reserve and attended the famous meeting on Jekyll Island just before the Federal reserve Act of 1913.

You are right jefferiah, I do believe the conspiracy was against Jews. Here is why: It took sophisticated planning to pull of 911, yet there is piles of evidence of Jewish involvement, so much so as to lead me to believe they were set up as a scape goat. Canadian Blue isn't very intelligent, he just uses crap like the word "anti semite" to win arguements when he can't any other way. Anyone can be charged with a hate crime by the ADL, you have to say anything against the Jews, all you need to have is someone interpret your remarks as anti simetic. As a Canadian Judge is known for saying " Truth is no defence". The legal system is completely corrupt and I know that from dealing with lawyers. Lawyers are mostly lying manipulative gutless little money grubbing weasels and I do not want to end up in court!

Exactly my point. Much of the building got converted to dust. This requires a lot of energy. Most of the dust created was projected away from the building at high speed, where did the enrgy for this come from ? As far as the steel being shipped away, I'm not so sure of that. There is evidence for it, but this takes a long time to ship that much steel off site and early photos of ground zero do not show much building there. Even FEMA comments on how they were not allowed to inspect steel. They had to hunt down the steel that was in waste sites.

I admit that I do not know a lot about Canadian finance, most stuff that I read is about the USA. My point is that the government still uses private banks. Cities and provinces use private banks. There would be no disadvantage to using the Bank Of Canada instead unless cities & provinces prefer to make private bankers rich on the bgacks of Canadians.

The government does borrow money from private banks. It doesn't borrow all of its money from private banks but does borrow in time of need. The Bank Of Canada got Canada out of the mess that ww2 and the depression brought on. Canada was doing extremely well economically until Truedeau started financing using private banks. There is an unmistakable decline in the economy after Truedeau cut back on using the Bank Of Canada. You can see the decline in the economy and the rising national debt since the 70's. What is the advantage of going to private banks over the Bank of Canada when they need money ?

Any missile defence system can always be overloaded withy tin cans. It would cost more to knock out the tin cans than it would to build them. Missile defence is a fantasy, and an offensive weapon. Its a way to put offensive weapons into space while people think they are defensive. Is Osama Bin Laden after us again and going to build an ICBM is one of his caves or have you figured out that he is dead and those confession tapes wrt 911 didn't even look like him ?

I'm not a liberal, I am a conservative but not a neoconservative sycophant fascist. I do not trust the corporate owned media and politicians that lie all the time. Money does not fall from trees, but it does get created for the cost of the ink and paper for the people that control our society. If you had to grow trees then money creation for these people would be much more difficult than it is now. You need to stop watching so much TV and start looking for some truth.

What exactly do you think that you are getting in return for the 28% of your income tax that goes to the private bankers ? Would that money not be better spent on education, hospitals, roads or other infrastructure ? Would that not create more jobs and be beneficial to the economy and Canadian life in general ? Did you ever think that doing this didn't work before because some people didn't want it to work - ie the people that get to keep this money for themselves ?