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NY Times polls show that 86 % of the Americans think there are problems with the 911 investigations, over 30 % think it was MIHOP. You won't believe anything unless the TV tells you to believe it. Most people know the governments keep two sets of books. I would like it if you stopped reading my posts and just ignore me. A conversation with you is a waste of time because you consider yourself an expert at everything and can be shown to be very niave in the topics you pretend to be expert in.

Canada is being absorbed into a continental police state. Its called The North American Union. Policing and security is a big growth industry, technical colleges that used to advertise technical schools are now advertisng police services. The concentration camps have been announced on mainstream. Haliburton just got a no bid contract to build more for 380 million. they exist in all cities on the continent and are linked by rail. Anderson Cooper did work for the CIA. Anderson Cooper 360 is code for Anderson Cooper Maximum Spin. Bush is not a 12 foot lizard but if he was it would sure explain a lot.

Really, how is that ? I can make lawyers look foolish(see below). (besides engineering) But I won't work for the police state or help make weapons. Do you know what I look like ?

I agree with you margrace but for different reasons. No one is really this stupid. They are just going along with something because they think they will not be hurt by it. They are afraid of the truth just like a kid who covers his eyes in fear. They will say what they are told to say on TV. Nothing is too stupid for them to say so that they can be seen as obedient by the oligarchy. ten years ago, if you asked if people thought Oswald shot Kennedy, people would laugh at you. Of course Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy - that would be impossible. Now all the neoliberal sycophant fascists believe that Oswald shot Kennedy again. Believes not based on logic, these beliefs are based on fear. If you look at the evidence and learn about the plans of the New World Order (1984 and Brave New World) were both written by authors with the inside track on the NWO. Huxleys brother formulated eugenics programs for the UN. We can see 1984 comming true around us with the police state and lies about war. Of course the detention centers are being built and its on mainstream but none of these idiots will take notice. They are being sold on this idea of a new world government where peace exists, but the proponents of NWO have been starting all the wars and robbing us in the process. They have no intentions of peace. They want total control. Everyone chipped, anyone eliminated with the press of a button. I wonder how many of them have got their disks to learn the new language.

One again, I need to ask you this question below because you always refuse to answer: Have you ever heard a politician say something that you did not believe ? Have you ever seen anything on TV news that you did not believe ?

No, the establishment that you try so hard to support is populated by Trotskyites and is converting the world to communism - big government and everyone dependent on government. Regular college programs are being replaced by police programs so that there are enough people to implement the police state. Clinton wore a pro Mao button on his suit during his first day in office. My economic theories are nothing like communism. I believe that people should make money producing useful things for the economy rather than collecting money from usery. Its not a new idea, communism is a new idea and it was invented by the bankers to take over the Russian Empire during the Russian Revolution and begin to issue their debt free cirrency to the Russians. They are seeking a new socialism and its everywhere you look.

This is how you do that: You just keep it that way.

The economy has been going down the pooper for a few decades now.

First of all, they are not conspiracy theories, even if you dissagree with them they are still not conspiracy theories. The Federal Reserve central bank is a privately owned entity that is owned by offspring of the same people that started the Federal Reserve. Rockefeller. Rothschild, etc. All of your link sounds good, but one only has to open their eyes to what is happening with the economy to see that its being ruined. Who is behind the ruining of the economy - the leaders - who are controlled by bankers. US citizens currently have a choice between the Rockefeller Republicans and the Rockefeller Democrats. It is Wall St that is pushing for war. It is the IMF that profits from war. from your link: "Fact: Independent accounting firms conduct full financial audits of the Federal Reserve banks and the Board of Governors every year. The Fed is also subject to certain types of audits from the Government Accounting Office. " Fact: The Central Bank Of The Federal Reserve (the part that is owned by these private individuals) has never been audited. Fort Knox has never been audited in the past 50 years. From your link: "Facts: Kennedy wrote E.O. 11,110 to phase out silver certificate currency, not to issue more of it. Records show Kennedy and the Federal Reserve were almost always in agreement on policy matters. He even signed legislation to give the Fed more authority to issue currency." Actual Text of Executive Order 11110: AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows: SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended -- (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): "(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (Bb) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (Bb)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and (Bb) By revoking subparagraphs (Bb) and (Cc) of paragraph 2 thereof. SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made. JOHN F. KENNEDY THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963 *letters in brackets had to be replaced by the letter and its capital to show up properly on this newsgroup. so ( becomes (Bb) to prevent that face from showing in its place. I know there are many people that will try and support the establishment as much as possible and not try at all to find truth but often the truth is right in front of you and it requires more effort to ignore it. There is no shortage of establishement supporters that will say just about anything. The one thing that they fail to understand is that there is no honor among thieves. In John Kenneth Galbraiths book called "Money: Whence It Came; Where It Went" he explains that the federal reserve act puts a handful of men in control of the USA. Its in Ch3 somewhere.

I just proved it. You have CNN's & BBC's commentary on what Irans president said and the literal translation (which is easily falsifiable) posted. Of course truith is no defence in a Canadian court but it still does win public debates. I shouldn't have said Jewish owned media, I should have said Zionist owned media. Many Jewish people are not in favour of what Israel is doing. I have seen one be shot with real bullets while protesting against it on You Tube and heard soldiers on YouTube describing their own actions against the Palistinians as immoral. You have the Jewish people and their elites that do not represent them, just like Canada has Stephen Harper who is selling the country to the global corporations at discount rates, same as George W Bush. Every country has its people and the disconnected oligarchy and the judas goats that support the oligarchy.

Those presidents starting with Woodrow wilson were puppets of the Rockefellers, Morgans, etc - same people that started the Federal reserve have their offspring as board of directors and shareholders in the central banks. Larry MacDonald who was a repeatdely elected congressman and outspoken against the banking elite did a study in 1976 (I think it was '76) on who owned the Fed. It was people of the same last names as the ones that started the Fed. Right now the two major parties of the USA are the Rockefeller Democrats and the Rockefeller Republicans.

Thats not a contribution to this debate, its just another stupid remark. You would get no points for that in a debating contest.

Actually I like the USA very much until recently (Bush) and have often considered moving there. I have known Jewish people and have relatives that are Jewish. I have no problem with the Jews and think you are another idiot lawyer that plays low ball just like most lawyers for suggesting that you know what I think and bring anti semitism into the arguement. But I get that from your posts - not my imagination. A good side to this is that my opinion of lawyers couldn't be any lower than it already is so I don't think you can make me think any worse of lawyers because of your arrogance and stupidity. You are a myopic simple minded over paid irresponsible lawyer - nothing new there. Even though I am not a lawyer, be glad you are not facing me in court because I would make a fool out of you in front of a judge.

Riverwind: You have also been using Monetarism as your sole theory in making your arguements. Monetarism while easy to understand provides an overly simplified view of economic behaviour. I have thrown in some Keynesian theory which is the more accepted viewpoint but it went over your head. Keynesian economics addresses the problems that you seem to think private financing will solve.

The Financial Consequences of Funding the Halifax Harbour Bridges with Private Banking (An analysis by Dr. Jerry Ackerman, with lots of help from Ken Munro) Q. Could the cost of financing the Macdonald and McKay bridges have exceeded the cost of building them? A. Yes, it could. And, yes it did. Several times over. Let's look at some numbers: Macdonald Bridge (1956)$10.6 million McKay Bridge (1970) 32.9 McKay ramp (1987) 4.0 Total contract costs$47.5 million Financing costs for the first 40 years (thru 1995) have totaled $169 million (see graph showing annual debt charges). At the end of that time, the bridge commission still owed $100 million, and was paying 11% interest on a loan from a chartered bank that was guaranteed by the Province. ... Paying The Banksters Their Toll It seems to me that government does go to the private banks to finance capital works. Could you explain what the advantage of using private banks over public ones is ? Your understanding of economics lacks insight and you are just repeating mantra of politicians which has been very well debunked on the COMER site. Increasing money supply DOES NOT always lead to inflation. Inflation is not always a bad thing either. You can't tell me that you have a greater understanding of ecomomics than the executive of the Canadian Action Party, I believe few people have this level of understanding, particularly of William Krehm who is not only a Phd from University Of Toronto (physics) but has been in economics for over 50 or so years. The guy is 91 years old and very very intelligent. Really, your views are exactly the same as mainstream media on pretty much everything. Why bother posting ? You probably know that I have a TV.

Palistinians have no access to a sea port, they are restricted in the depth of wells they can dig, they get their houses destroyed at random by Israelis, and are subject to regular check points. If someone took your property, destroyed your house, and restricted the amount of water you could have on your own land, what would you do ? I don't think you are really qualified to express the Palistinian point of view under your own myopic simple minded view of the world. Alos see Wikis def'n of humour, which proves you to be a fool in remarking about my spelling in another post. You said I spelled "humour" wrong and that it should be "humor".

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose members have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion over forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop a plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the work now is much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practised in past centuries"- David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, at the Trilteral commission in June 1991. Mainstream media is nothing more than a propoganda machine for the big banks. Read the quote - its right there in front of you. There are many more like it. <insert sound of alarm clock here> Wake Up !!!

A missile defence system is a system used to protect the country from various kinds of missiles. I pointed out the fact that one does not need a missile to attack the USA, all you need is a truck and the warhead because the borders are unguarded. What is it that you do not understand about this ? Missile defence sounds plausible if you don't give it any thought and except it at face value but a more critical analysis shows that its just another vehicle for offensive wars and war profiteering.

Read the Global Research link and you can see what the president of Iran said - word for word. Then read what CNN and the BBC say. My point was exactly right, CNN and the BBC lied. CNN is in fact Jewish controlled and many reporters such as Anderson Cooper and Wold Blitzer work for the CIA or are members of the CFR - hardly unbiased. You just keep saying my views are looney because you lack the fortitude to actually look into the facts.

In other words, why don't the Arabs just make peace and be slaves for the Israelis.

I know you keep saying it and it sounds dumber every time you say it. The interest free loans would be paid back faster than those bearing interest. What you say about BOC loans applies equally to private banker loans. As far as borrowing money at no interest instead of paying interest on bonds, the money supply can be managed through taxation and the country would save money. This would result in a better economy for investment. I wish you wouldn't contribute to my threads. Your dogmatic nonsense is just a waste of time in debate. If I want to know your views I can just watch TV or read corporate mainstream media- who are paid off to give these views.

No. The existing North American Union amalgamates everything from police to meat inspection as well. They are putting the police state into place for a reason - because when you see the North American Union you will not like it.

If you owned a store and shares in a company that made hammers, Brand A and you needed a hammer, would you go across the street to buy a different brand, Brand B from your competitor at full market value ? If the Canadian government can borrow money interest free, than it is silly to borrow money and pay interest for it. Its that simple.

Whether Bush is stupid or not, its irrelevant, he is just a puppet like every US president since 1913.

Like the Jewish owned mainstream media that wants war with Iran ? The Global Research site has a literal word by word translation. Your sources (as usual) are nothing more than hit pieces with nothing to back them up. Actually the Global Research article posted compared with your links posted actual proves that they are exactly neocon sycophant fascist wingnuts. There is absolutely no substance in the CNN/BBC articles. They are just commentary and misleading commentary at that.