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Where did you learn about banking ? Is there any reason why someone should not believe that you are just pulling this out of your a$$ ? First of all you don't know what you are talking about wrt money creation. You should read JK Galbraiths book called "Money". He will tell you how the banks create money. Friedman also has a book out on it and he will tell you the same thing. Ask one of your economics professors if banks create money. BTW If banks don't create money, who does ?

Why don't some of you posters on this thread read something about banking ? Perhaps you could ask an economics professor if what I am saying is correct. Its better to post on topics for which you are somewhat informed. When you just pull arguemnts out of your a$$ then it makes the forum look bad and it makes you look stupid. Most people and all people in crowds do not behave rationally. Most of the world is not rational. Grow up.

No, I didn't. You are a fool. I never said that.

Once again, have you ever read a book about banking or are you just pulling that out of your a$$ because you think it should be that way ? How can you be so arrogant as to argue a subject that you have absolutely no knowledge about ? Actually it isn't. In systems where they can only lend what they have interest rates are around 30 %. Name one source anywhere that says banks can only lend what they have on deposit. I've given you lists of references, - books, videos, websites, etc. I would like to know of a single source that supports your viewpoints. I would also suggest you look up "fractional reserve banking" and learn what that means. Fractional Reserve Banking means exactly that bankers create money. I've never heard anyone refer to JK Galbraith as aa deluded economist. You must really have an u8nbeklievablely high opinion of yourself. I think you can get medication for that. Your level of arrogance combined with your purposeful ignorance is rare.

So in other words you didn't take a single course on banking - because none are taught ! Larry MacDonald did a study on the Federal Reserve in the 70's showing who the owners are. They are the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Strongs, etc - same group that started the Fed. Why don't you ask an economics professor at your school about what I am telling you ? I'm sure he or she will verfiy that it is all true.

No. wtc7 proves it was a staged terror attack. The way wtc1 & wtc 2 fell at near freefall speed proves 911 was an inside job. The numerous coincidences prior and during the attacks prove 911 was an inside job. Congressional testimony strongly suggests 911 was an inside job. The behaviour of the government after 911 was that of a guilty party. The government had the most to gain from what happened on 911. They are getting very rich off the wars. The person who directed the official investigations and reporting of the 911 accident was a propogandist by profession (Philip Zelikow) Look him up yourself on wiki.

My counter arguement is that you are always wrong and you never know what you are talking about and you are always passing yourself off as some kind of expert. So I am wondering where you got your knowledge of how banks work. Everything I have said is factually true.

So you don't believe conspiracies exist ? Are you really a lawyer ?

All textbooks go through UNESCO for approval.

I keep asking you this simple question and you will not answer it but you keep acting as if you are some kind of expert, now, really, what books have you read on banking ? Where do you get your information ?

Much of this is explained in Guns & Butter / 9/11 in Context: The Strategy of Tension Gone Global (audio/free) This is a recent show discussing globalism and its goals. This is very scary stuff but it is repeated in various forms all over if you look - including mainstream.

People are going to start getting angry as they learn about the truth in things. The US has recently tried to pass legislation that demanded anyone with contact with more than 500 persons regarding political matters register with the White House and report to them quarterly. There is a legislative assault going on wrt freedom of speech to curtail the pulics trust from turning to alternative media. We are becomming a police state so that this dissent can be controlled. The economy is being collapsed and looted so that we give up economic control of our lives. We are in the middle of a banker controlled revolution that isn't being televised and that will make us a completely controlled bolchevic police state dependent on government for everything. The war on terror is just an excuse to do the same thing with other countries as well as here - create a more controlled society that works harder for less. What is happening now in North America was happening in Germany before world war 2. The economics, laws and military actions all parallel according to many experts.

The fact the geoffrey doesn't know anything about banking is probably more of a reflection of our UNESCO sponsored education system. Every textbook gets checked over by them. The stated reason is that they want everyone on the same page. The obvious fact, given geoffreys knowledge about banking is that they do this to control information. There is lots of historical information on various aspects of old societies except for the monetary viewpoint of history. It doesn't get much attention at all and I would suspect that very few recently educated people in the finance disciplines know about how banking actually works. There is much reason to take a monetary view of history. Its easy to see why banks would want to keep some aspects of their operations hidden and given the power they actually have its easy to see how they can exert that much control. We live in a banker controlled society. They control how many hours you will work, what you learn in school, how much tax you will pay, what you see on the media (all major media now), the government we have, economic conditions and foreign policy. We have wars because bankers want wars. I learned that there was much more to learn than what they were teaching us in school about monetary issues while I was in school. I first learned about The Creature From Jekyll Iskland from an economics professor but he could not teach the details about banking during class and suggested I read further when I asked him after class about where money comes from. Every US president that had an attempted or successful asssasination was a president that began to talk about monetary reform. Jackson has "I Killed The Banks" on his tombstone. All of the recent wars have been financed on both sides by private banks with them handling the financing of the reconstruction effort after the war and after a corrupt government is put into power. Our view of the establishment is a banker owned media created illusion. Our views on economics are also media/UNESCO determined. Bankers own government, government owns corporations (80 % stock in Microsoft), corporations control us.

Have you ever read a book about banking ? Have you ever read about the history of money ? Do you know what "fraction reserve banking" means ? Sometimes I think I am in a stupid contest on this forum.

Its all fact that is repeated and believed elsewhere. Bankers admit that they create money from nothing. Politicians have said it. Economists have said it. Its a matter of history and how banking is widely understood to work. I want to know where you got the idea that banks can only lend out what they have on deposit. I really really want to hear this because you are so arrogant and foolish and I want you to see that.

geoffrey: where do you get this information about banks only being able to lend what is on deposit ? No bank has ever operated that way - gold standard or not- in the history of banking - pretty much for hundreds of years. I really want to know where you got this information. I think you imagine what you think should be true, assume that to be true then argue it here. You clearly have no knowledge whatsoever about how banking works. I think you did.

I don't know. I don't think about whether a plane hit the Pentagon or not. 911 being an inside job is already obvious long before you get to thinking about all of the uncertainties about the Pentagon. My money would be on Seven Days In September being true.

The movie doesn't lie. You are confused. The board of governors is visible. The privately own central federal reserve does not have a public list of its directors/owners. These are the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc. It does not accumulated billions - it accumulates trillions. I din't ever say that all money is based on government debt. I said that all money in circulation earns money for private bankers in the form of rent(interest) in return for its printing or creation. Monetarism is not the way the economy is looked at - a shift from Keynesian to something closer to monetarism has occured but economists do not manage currency supply from Says law. Too much currency was printed around the time of the depression. The money was created by the banks and lent for the purchase of derivatives before the '29 crash. Same as now. Many people think it was bank policy that played a major role in 1929. Good for you at least you got one fact right. One can view taxation asa controller of the money supply. Currently the reserve ratio is about 300:1 not 1:1. Its never 1:1. Banks create money. Thats rediculous and nothing like the way banks have operated anywhere in the last 200 (at least) years all over the world. No bank currently operates that way. You cannot earn a profit by operating like that. Essentially you have no idea about what you are talking about. Not true. Mysterious billions can be created on a whim. --

No wonder you have no idea about what is going on. Those are all bought & paid for - David Rockefeller admits it. I read about economics & monetary history as well as alternative current economic theories. I listen to Alex Jones, Wester Tarpley, and various ex high ranking government officials from the Reagan adminstration who do blogs & essays, etc. There are some military analysts that are on Rense radio and I listen to them as well as some members of www.RBN.com I read the paper at lunch as watch CNN just to see what they want us to believe. I sometimes read the NY Times. Of course mainstream news is all propoganda and has a very small resemblance to the truth in economic & war matters.

So is yours. The official version is a lot more rediculous than this. This pases the reality test much better than the official version of events. Calling cell phones from 30,000 ft is impossible. This isn't.

People have suggested that they were all CIA agents, after the plane landed they just went home like another day at the office.

Thats not true. See Seven Hours In September. The Pentagon Attack Papers

Where is it full of crap ? Can you name one false statement ? I think you missed the basic point of the documentary.

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation." John Adams Robert H. Hemphill, former credit manager, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta "Money is the most important subject intellectual persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it is widely understood and its defects remedied very soon." Sir Josiah Stamp, former President, Bank of England "Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money and control credit, and with a flick of a pen they will create enough to buy it back." Rt. Hon. Reginald McKenna, former Chancellor of Exchequer, England "Those who create and issue money and credit direct the policies of government and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people."++ Wm. Jennings Bryan "Money power denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes."

Charles, I think probably you and everyone else that is arguing with me have never read anything about money and banking. If you had, you would know that both Presidents and bankers have admitted that bankers do in fact control the United States and the rest of the world. It does work against what you have been lead to believe but you have never heard anything that is counter to this fact. You should educate yourselves, that way you can post more intelligently. Its a fact that our civilization would dramatically change for the better if we had monetary reform. All the big problems of today would be rapidly dissapear and people would have a say in their governments actions, unlike today. People would have more money and less taxes. People like George Bush would be in jail & we would stop having wars except with countries who were still controlled by bankers. The USA would have to threaten war in which case they would start printing their own money. People like Rothschild and Rockefeller would be lynched by angry crowds, end up in jail, or on the streets. Free Videos on Google: "The Money Masters" "The Capitalist Conspiracy" "Monopoly Men" Links: COMER Five Page Text On Money UK Monetary Reform Party Canadian Action Party Website (see cartoon) Claire Foss Journal (some say this is best site) McFaddens Speech To Congress 1934 Books: The Creature From Jekylll Island (Griffin) Money (JK Galbraith) Why Only In Fantopia (Stuart) The Money Bomb (Stuart)