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Um... the European Union sees to it to bully their member states into letting the open borders madness continue, and countries like Hungary that do take their borders seriously have not been overwhelmed as you sit here claiming. We are talking about now. Superpowers? Good ol Canada was in on this one too. Again, no maybe about it, might made right there and you were a part of it. What law? This is the same stupid routine Radiorum was putting on. Maduro was a ruthelss dictator who killed his own people brutally to stay in power. He used his country to run sanctioned oil on the black market and to allow those narco-terrorists you pretend don't exist to run their drug operations from. That is the respect for law you are protecting and supporting here.

If that is the meaning you want to use, then that is not what happened here with Venezuela.

This is, again, a lie. That was not the plan.

This is a thread based on your ignorance of a fictional novel... LOL What international law was violated here that has any bearing on the United States? You say that as if it has any meaning. All nations are "rogue states" in the way you are throwing the term around. No, I don't. Why would I?

How did I know this was going to be another lazy spambot thread? LOL

OK, and? That court is stupid and biased. So what? This is nothing but lies. "Threatened" how? Declared war on the UN? You are just speaking gibberish now. Again, you are defending all this "law and order" and instead of that, you change the subject: Maduro was a tinpot ruthless dictator in league with narco terrorists and running sanctioned oil on the black market. He brutally killed his own people to maintain power and control, making money off the terrorism and illicit dealing he was doing, all harming the United States.

What international law and order? Maduro was a tinpot ruthless dictator in league with narco terrorists and running sanctioned oil on the black market. He brutally killed his own people to maintain power and control, making money off the terrorism and illicit dealing he was doing, all harming the United States. That is the international law and order you are protecting here.

Trump didn't do that here. So... what is your point?

Lazy spambot troll still hard at work being a lazy spambot troll.

OK, and? You chopped one sentence out of his comments.

OK, let me throw your stupid argument back in your face again... when Maduro/Hugo played these games stealing American companies interests and property, then years not paying them, this is the game they played knowing the risks. Guess what, that FA and FO. I am more interested in what Trump actually says and does than the mindless fear-mongering and lies you leftists peddle. Legal? OK, so what laws are two sovereign nations bound by that prevents one from going down and bonking the other on the head when they are screwing around? This is another lie. A hoax? So... there are no drugs now or drug dealers and you are just denying all of reality? Except, they didn't just pass a law, they did in fact confiscate guns. Either way, you are completely ignoring the point, which is that you are ignorant and claimed something that is not true. As usual though, you just gloss over that and change the subject.

Maybe, maybe not, but the fact that Trump is serious is also the thing you leftists don't like to talk about, which is deterrence. Its not worth traveling half way around the world when you know when you get there they have military patrols on the border, they are actually arresting and rounding up illegals, and Trump gives so few shits about it all he is throwing people on planes and flying them to wherever will take them. Lots of ifs there... not happening. There is no "maybe" about it. They literally used their might in a different country to take out its leader.

I generally support my country protecting the interests of its citizenry when they are ripped off by a country nationalizing their resources by stealing from them.

So... you are trying to say Trump musing about shooting protestors in the leg is the same thing as Iran literally and systematically executing and murdering it own citizenry on mass if they dare speak out? Yeah, there are a ton of differences! One is in Libya, the other in Venezuela, one speaks Spanish, the other Arabic. We could talk about their favorite cuisines next too! So many differences!

No conspiracy, just cutting costs where they can to lower the price.

Lazy spambot strikes again.

I learned a long time ago, about reading gages. The important thing is not neccisarily what the gage is currently reading, but how fast it got there and is still rising. I don't know why folks like you insist on trying to quibble of things like this, when you need to look at the birth rates, and trajectory, which was the entire point. China's population is aging much faster than America's.

Do you ever stop being dishonest?

Once again, the world existed before all this spite and hatred of Trump. NATO decided might makes right in Libya back in 2011. Canada was a part of that. The list goes on. The world timeline and history didn’t begin the day Trump took office.

It was part of a long ongoing effort to nationalize their oil industry completely.

Except that was not what was happening at all. It was not 3 superpowers with influence; it was literally three superstates. We do not have Venezuela for crying out loud. This whole post is pretty dumb stretch, it makes me wonder if you even read the book.

Except we actually did something to seriously secure the border and are enforcing immigration laws much more now. Venezuela was already a destabilized shit hole, but yeah, it is going to be sooooo much worse now. It was a tropical paradise of peace and prosperity until big bad Trump came along.

Now? It has ALWAYS been this way. Every aspect of even western civilization is held together by this basic concept. Who enforces the laws? Police - with force. What you want is a world where the good people have the might and are willing to use it to stop the evil people.

Again, more semantics. The point remains that US Oil Companies had leases and assets tied to developing and producing on those leases that Venezuela seized from them, and to this day, has not fully paid compensation for doing so. I mean, no crap a country can do what it wants, just like Trump can go down there and arrest Maduro and take him. See how that works! Imagine a world where there can be overlapping motivations! No... Besides, it is yours and other leftists stupid generalizations, dumber than Trumps lingo on "our oil", when you sit here reducing things to Trump wanting to steal their oil or take it. Do you just mindlessly repeat whatever BS you hear? Maduro had been destroying private arms and disarming citizens since 2012. Venezuela bans private gun ownership https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430 "Hugo Chavez's government says the ultimate aim is to disarm all civilians"

Loaded question. No one was "kidnapped" Power. Other nations put out and agreed to an arrest warrant to get the leader of Israel. Folks on the left, hell likely you, fully support arresting him, no? Easy, it demonstrates that if you screw with us, you better be prepared to face the consequences. That promotes peace through power. It shows other tinpot 3rd world dictators they better watch their steps.