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Ousting him… how? There were free and fair elections that Zelensky won legitimately. The US didn’t select him. He was elected.

We didn’t steal any Venezuelan oil or kidnap their president - the rightful ruler wasn’t in power, Maduro was widely recognized as an illegitimate leader. I mean, you folks are all about the law and order and are just fine with Maduro being a brutal dictator who wasn’t elected and the as not the legitimate leader/

No. You have any evidence or just want to hide behind stupid question to make insinuations?

When all else fails break out the Sea Lion routine. Of course, you support terrorism and killing Israelis because as long as the bad guys hide behind their own people, you think they get a free pass.

There is nothing factual about claiming Trump is a dictator.

LOL. Listen, its not my fault you parrot mindless leftist talking points. IMaybe go outside, touch some grass, and get away from whatever left-wing circle jerk you're part of.

He didn't try to steal an election, there was no coup or attempted coup, and as was already pointed out before, he is a lousy dictator as he left office peacefully on his last day.

Wait... so, the "dictator" left office as required by law? ROFL

You are speaking from experience on both ends of that spectrum...

LOL, what? Guess what happened? Trump got on the helicopter and flew away. Biden was the President. Trump was elected fair and square and is serving his term lawfully. He is not a dictator. You do not live in reality.

Except... Trump is not a dictator. Trump was elected in a fair and free election and is serving a limited term.

You are such a pathological liar. To this day, no, not all of the payments have been made, some were. Venezuelan law was little more than what the current dictator at the time did. America is looking out for the interest of our companies and people, just because it is "lawful" for whatever tinpot dictator to do in their own country doesn't mean it is not also lawful for the countries they rob to come get their payback.

Listen coward, if you want to talk about me, then be brave enough to do so to my face and engage and defend your stupid, ignorant, lies.

Yes, you asked why he pardoned the Hondorus President, and Trump explained why. Again, I also askedI if you needed me to go find that for you. Instead, you go off on this silly obfuscation game of yours... even now, you conflate my telling you an objective fact about if you want to know why, go see what Trump said, with my believing him about Maduro, which is not what we were even talking about nor my stating I believed it. Oh, it is apparent you do not follow much of what is going on as I have to keep pointing these easily found public things out to you. I have been adding things this whole time...

What are you talking about now? What opinion of mine is aligned with Trumps?

And now you have changed your definition for a 3rd time and also falsely say Trump rationalized this by himself. The President is surrounded by his cabinet, advisors, and White House staff. You have zero evidence to sit here absurdly claiming that Trump just dreamt this all up on his own somehow ignoring and operating in isolation from his entire support structure. I don't merely think it is one, by objective standards it was one. I merely called it out. No, I did not ask you to take Trumps explination at face value at all. Why do you put words into my mouth? We are not going anywhere because that is by your design in these discussions. You don't want to as soon as you actually put something out that you think and it gets challenged, you start to do these things. What I offered was not "evidence" of anything, you wanted to know the reasons, I merely pointed you to them. I guess you would prefer I just make up stuff instead? I mean, that is what many Trump haters do.

More lies.

I mean, sure, he is the typical autocrat... minus the autocrat part.

Yeah, then I pointed out how it was no more might makes right than other things, then you changed the meaning of might makes right, then when I pointed that out... you balked. Except, you didn't. You balked: "Yeah, I don't think we're going to have the same take on this nor do I think we'll convince each other. " Has nothing to do with if you believe him or not, but that is the stated reason.

Well, if you stuck to just the facts, and all of them... but this is not what you did or have been called a liar for. You have to interject your loaded, dishonest language. See, look how slippery you are here, yeah, it is your subjective "conclusion" but not a fact and you are asserting these thigns as facts. I have already articulated your lies over and over again here. This is what you do though, you obfuscate for so long we get to the point you pretend none of this ever happened. More dishonesty.

No, I was throwing your argument back in your face... and then you go full stupid and circle back around on yourself. I am not justifying this as legitimate just because we can do it... Trump didn't capture Maduro because they were doing whatever they wanted domestically. Yeah, just as everything Trump did was perfectly legal. We didn't conquer Venezuela... The US has been engaged in military operations around the world and this was a targetted action against an inidividual who wasn't the recognized leader and was a criminal thug. I have, you should try quoting it instead of lying about what it says. Yeah, I think you ran away from that thread. There is no hoax; these narco terrorists are operating against American interests in ways that are significantly harming Americans through their illegal criminal efforts. LOL, usual Beaver BS, where you start with one claim and shift it to something else trying to make it fit as if you were never wrong to begin with. You tried to claim it was private gun ownership, when in reality, it is only government-armed thugs. Claiming black market is not "private ownership" All you can do is wildly speculate because you have no facts.

Can you stop being a worthless spambot?

No, you don't. What exactly has Trump said or done or is he even capable of that would actually make Canada the 51st state? This goes back to me claiming I am the King of England. Those are my words, so do you believe I am the King of England? You have proven time and time again to be the one making crap up. Here we are in a thread you created based on your ignorance of a FICTIONAL novel... then you want to talk to me about reality? Again, that is not all he said, not even in what you quoted: " fix up the country, bring the country back, then have elections.""

Its hilarious. They keep crying about the law, the law, the law, we must respect the law! Meanwhile, Maduro was an illegitimate leader who ruled through brute force over his people, ran sanctioned oil for the black market, worked with narco terrorists... they certainly did not give two shits about all those laws.

I understand plenty, the guy is a clown show shit talker. You are a petty partisan Trump hater who will use anything to fear-monger.