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No, i asserted it was true. I did not make any claim as to why it's true. You're an !diot. You rant and rave continually. I did in fact. Go back and read again. This gets beyond tedious if i have to explain everything to you TWICE. Nobody cares what you're seeking. That was the point.

Awww muffin - you mad? Sounds like its time for your cookie and your nap Run upstairs and tell your mom.

True, slip of the tounge. No, that is not a circular logic fallacy. My god could you please stop using words if you don't know what they mean. You are the only one who rants and raves, desperate to explain your disloyalty and dishonor in a sad attempt to make it look like its opposite. But yes - you certainly do rinse and repeat.

Yes - and everything i said remains true. And you are disloyal by your own admission - which you don't make a 'considered' response to, but rather to which you blather and attempt to justify your disloyalty in the most painfully ridiculous ways. And you're not just disloyal, you're stupid if you think that russia doesn't care about denmark becoming part of nato and the potential for land forces being based there.

Socially the culture wars and identity politics are no longer acceptable. I honestly don't know how you're not getting this. it's very simple. People are sick of identity politics. Bud enagaged in identity politics. So even while trans may not be something people are eager to oppose - this incident is. Free speech good but swastika bad. trans good but weaponizing beer in the culture war bad. Not complex. 8 billion in stock loss. That's not just a few unhappy conservatives. Every liquour store they're interviewing reports drops in sales well into the double digits - 30 percent in some cases. That is NOT a few unhappy conservatives. No, demanding that the influencer be taken off tik tok would be cancel culture. This is a boycott. No that's just your own bigotry. The evidence does not point to that. Unless a hell of a lot more people disapprove of trans than previous polling and information would suggest. This is people sick of this being a 24 hour a day issue. They do it with black people and this doesn't happen. So it's different. And bud has done MANY gay and les supports before. Many. This didn't happen. Are you getting it yet? No, they are people sick of the culture war. This is a backlash to the culture war that the far left has been fighting relentlessly Lying to yourself means you're lying to yourself. That remains true whether i agree with you or not. The obvious evidence does not support your position, yet you cling to it desperately. I'm saying that while you can continue to self delude yourself to scratch your confirmation bias itch it woudl be better to dispassionately look at the facts and be honest with yourself as to what is going on. You WANT this to be "conservatives bad people, hate trans, bad bad". But the evidence is that this is not the case, that something else is going on here. I'm sure there are people out there who hate trans people, but that does NOT account for this reaction.

You miss the point entirely. Free speech is acceptable in any context (in theory at least). The fact that it's being used in a manner you might not entirely approve of yourself is not relevant. If someone wishes to wear a swastika bikini they can. So - the fact that you don't disapprove of free speech does not mean you're not going to find that particular advert annoying. You've turned the product into a controversy. Likewise - just because you don't disapprove of trans doesn't mean you're not going to find an ad politicizing them to be annoying. Well lets test that with my example - if sending some cans of bud lite to a person in a swimsuit is unremarkable so should be sending some cans to a person in a swimsuit with a swastika. Ummm - nope, turns out there's a difference You can pretend otherwise but you'd be being dishonest at this point - sending it to the trans person to celebrate their one year anniversary of being trans'd is a political statement. The person doesn't even drink beer. That's not true at all - and bud wouldn't be taking the hit that it is if it were JUST harder conservatives who don't like trans people that were the issue. It's clear that it's stepping beyond that. People eat breathe and sleep trans issues right now. Every day it's in the papers - trans issues in our schools, trans issues wiht teachers with fake gigantic breasts, trans issues with them shooting up churches, trans issues with bathrooms, trans issues with trans people demanding to tell stories to underage children, trans issues with every single thing under the sun and now we can't have a beer without thinking about trans issues. And if you have ANY concerns with ANY of it - you're a terrible evil nazi. I don't care WHAT the topic is - eventually people get sick of it constantly in their face and being told if they don't agree 100percent with all of it then they're scum. And this is the predictable result. At some point people were going to snap and bud is paying billions for holding the potato when that happened. Lie to yourself if you must, but the fact is that the backlash means that companies will realize that it's not sate to be supportive of those groups in the same way any more. Which is too bad for those groups. But it was predictable.

Well that's not true in the slightest. One puts women on because you're appealing directly to the target markets. Women who drink beer want to be seen as pretty and men who drink beer want to believe the activity is directly associated with pretty women. That's normal advertising. But - imagine like i said earlier they put up a woman in a swimsuit, but the swimsuit features swastikas. And the caption is "at bud we support everyone's right to free speech". Now - the person watching may believe in free speech but he's still going to be pissed and very likely will say 'i don't support this, and i wont' buy that product".

Dude - could you be in denial harder? This is starting to get sad. The stock going down hurts them. That's a very serious problem for them. It should have been going up. So even if it recovers it will take much much longer for it to recover to where it should have been. That's why they're freaking. The revenues have taken a serious hit. It really doesn't matter if it's 2 billion or 3 billion or 10 billion per se - they're losing revenue. In case you were unaware businesses are only profitable when they MAKE money and the purpose of advertising is to MAKE money - not to hopefully not lose TOO much money This is an unmitigated failure for them. And they know darn well that there are so many beer choices that if people switch from their product even for a little while they may get used to the new product and simply not switch back even when they're not angry any more. While i appreciate the mental gymnastics - sorry to burst your bubble but this is bad for bud.

Nobody is believing your shit in the slightest. It's painfully obvious you lied.

LOL - did you need me to use smaller words and more pictures for you? Only the left would say something that wouldn't take up half a page printed is a "really long read" LOLOL Oh imagine that - SOMEHOW a bunch of paid people are coming forth to say this is terrible sure but you should still buy the stock I wonder who put them up to that ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If they weren't worried there would be no stories at all. And they wouldn't have called trump and begged him to tell conservatives to let them off the hook They're in full on damage control and they're VERY concerned. Anyone they've ever spent an ad dollar with is going to get a call teling them if they ever want another cent they better spin this positively. I'm sorry that the facts don't suit your personal agenda but as a person on the right of the spectrum I tend to listen to the facts and the science a little more - you keep going with "Muh feels" if you like. But I bet bud won't Others will pay attention too. Nobody wants to lose that kind of revenue. Or have their stock take that kind of hit. That's just life. Feel free to stick your fingers in your hears and humm if it helps you sleep at night.

It'll bounce back to less than what it would have been. And investors worry a great deal about businesses that make bad decisions that cost billions of dollars. Meanwhile that revenue loss that's driving the stock crash is gone forever. Like i said the first thing that the lefties do when faced with something that collides with their ideology is insist that really nothing happened and it's super small anyway. Sorry - this IS a big deal for the company and investors and they are busting major ass right now trying to mitigate the damage. Pretending otherwise kinda just makes you look uninformed and petty. Billions of dollars lost is a big deal. I love how you always try to make it personal - when did -I- say -I- Couldn't enjoy a beer? Did i say that? No? Never? Then why claim i did? Oh that's right - you can't address the points i DID make so you HAVE to lie to create something you can argue about Cheezy dude. In any case what i actually said is that people get fed up when they can't enjoy a beer without thinking about trans issues or other identity politics. And that's the case - if they want to buy some bud light and sit back and drink it then they now pretty much have to think about trans issues because bud has made that a thing. And that makes people angry and they consider other brands instead. Identity politics is a losing game for companies to play in the end. Many have found that out. Don't do it. If you make beer then sell beer. You can still successfully market to and support communities like the letter people but don't make it a political issue. I mean they have for years successfully, this was just stupid. Get woke go broke. Don't do it. Be honest in your genuine support and don't virtue signal and let people enjoy their products and their lives.

Nobody cares what you require - you're a nobody who doesn't even have any loyalty to your country and your opinion is worth nothing. The reality is that to russia theyv'e increased the threat and that wouldn't have happened without the invasion. Anything else is just the blathering of an unpatriotic loser who takes 20 paragraphs to explain his disloyalty every time it's brought up. Go ahead, there's your cue.

Nope, it's only come about half way back. And it should have been going up the whole time as it was previously So - they are still WAY behind. Even when they catch up to where they were they'll be way behind. This has been a VERY expensive lesson. To assume a corporation like that can see their value plummet by billions and call it a blip is far more foolish. It's not going to bankrupt them but if you're trying to pretend muti billion dollar losses don't concern shareholders and execs - you have much to learn about business. their stock isn't back up and in fact they won't be working with her any more. They didn't "hire" her in the first place, they just sent her some stuff. So no - she's not their official 'spokesperson' anymore or the like. That was an error on your part. So here's a common trick of the left wing. And it's not a very good look: When something happens that doesn't jive with their echo chamber tribalist ideology, they do the following: Insist nothing has happened and whatever has happened is so small it might as well not have occurred. Insist that it doesn't mean anything and nobody cares and everybody actually thinks it's great really if asked, but there's absolutely no meaning in what happened at all and if there is some nobody cares about it, And; Conservatives are terrible people for even bringing it up? So petty - why would they even mention it? They're clearly bad people, good people woudln't have even noticed this. Yeah - that is ALL pretty much bullshit. So here's the facts: 1 - multi billion dollar loses are a huge deal and bud will be VERY unhappy about this. So much so that THEY ARE NOW CALLING DONALD TRUMP TO BEG WITH CONSERVATIVES TO FORGIVE THEM. This is a serious loss for them. 2 - THey care. And it's clear that a lot of people who really aren't conservatives care. Which tells me that it's not really about transgenderism - its' about shoving identity politics down people's throats when you should have been pouring beer down it. 3 - EVERYONE - not just conservatives but EVERYONE is getting sick of this crap. Even people who agree with transgender issues are sick of having to hear about it breakfast lunch and dinner. People are FED UP of 'woke', of identity politics, and the lefts culture war. And it IS a big deal, and they are NOT bad people for thinking so and your attempt to cast them as such would just honk them off more and make for a bigger backlash. Bud tried to have a 'woke ' moment and paid a severe financial penalty for it. You can bet they'll treat the 'woke agendal' much much more carefully moving forward. And other companies will as well.

Yeah, i guess slime and haters are going to slime and hate.

But you do. You're so worried about how people perceive you online that you create fake posts and erase them when you get called on it and pretend you didn't. That's not the actions of someone who doesn't take themselves seriously. So you clearly do. But nobody else does

We have already seen. They're freaking out. They are calling trump demanding he speak to conservatives on their behalf to try to stop this. The media reports they're having freak outs in their own executive. They seem to be both denying supporting trans and at the same time saying they support trans in the same breath before shutting up. This has spun WAY out of control for them. We can see the answer right now - this isn't some sort of long game, it was a simple little endorsement they did to look a little woke that VERY unexpectedly blew up in their face. there will be NO hordes of trans people out there rushing to the stores to buy enough beer to cover the losses. The trans in question doesn't even drink beer. This isn't a case of that C'mon dude, even you have to realize you're reaching like hell right now. The only positive spin you might get on this is that it's been a learning eperience about the dangers of political messaging on sensitive subjects. Great - i don't drink their stuff either. But we're also probably not their target market.

I know. But you did. And that's the problem. I've said it many times. You falsely pretended to quote me with words i didn't say and then covered it up when you got called on it. Which is beyond pathetic.

Not to them. And frankly if they are going to be aggressive and invade other countries it DOES threaten their security. Sure bud, sure. They're all nuts - YOU'RE the only SANE one. Finalnd as part of nato is an angry neighbour with a shotgun on his lap. Regardless of their ACTUAL intent, you have to be concerned about it. And it only happened because he started this war. So that's a loss for him in that respect regardless.

So your argument now is that they INTENDED this to be a loss in the short term. Their reaction makes it painfully clear that was NOT the case. This was not a 'long term' plan. This was something they thought was simple and cheap - and it backfired. Lets not try to pass it off as some sort of example of 3 d chess.

But why would it be a provocation if it's purely defensive? Of course it's not just defensive and 'defense' can be interpreted a lot of ways. And there's no need to worry about 'unnecessarily provoking' a foe who's just worn themselves to nothing fighting in ukraine. The Russians see it as a serious threat and they know it weakens their position. So - that is a loss for them. It would never have happened if they hadn't just wasted craptonnes of their military strength in ukraine

Sorry but there's gong to be a tonne of this kind of fake 'opinion' pieces out there for a while. You think bud isn't calling every single newspaper or media outlet they've ever advertized on and saying "positive stories NOW or never get another cent"? Hell they're calling trump and saying the same thing. And trump is out there stumping for them. You and i both know that the future of bud light is NOT the transsexual community. The trans they sent the beer to with her picture on it doesn't even drink beer. This was engaging in identity politics for the purpose of making bio-straight people who consider themselves 'allies' feel like bud is sufficiently woke. This was a political message, not trying to break into the trans market. Which is fine and dandy - but right now that was the wrong move. People are sick of 'woke' and identity politics and now they've got a backlash.

But it should be much higher than that. You don't get wealthy by making half the money you should have. Dividends will be lower, stock value will be lower, etc etc and i absolutely guarantee you that makes a VERY big difference to a lot of execs and shareholders. This idea that "nobody cares if you lost 6 billion, pfffft!" just isn't a real thing.

It was supposed to gain, not lose. So - instead of going UP as it was, it went down. Which means no matter how you slice it this cost shareholders money. Revenues are down too apperently. Which is WHY stocks are down. And so smaller dividends and such. to pretend that the investors and the people who run the show don't care about stock prices because they don't mean anything is not being honest.

Nobody takes you seriously anymore kiddo.

And it just got harder for them to do that. If you're going to pretend that their national security isn't an issue for them or that having what they percieve to be a hostile force on their border isn't a matter of national security. then fine, but please don't claim you know anything about military politics any further. you'd have to be 7 different kinds of stupid not to know that.