CdnFox

No, socialism is a bigger risk demonstrably at the moment. Religion is about a distant 4th or so. No we're not, who told you that? We already tax the wealthy and we're not paying the bills. The wealthy don't have enough to pay the bills even if we tax them at 100 percent, and if you over tax they take their money elsewhere period. It's all about choosing the right pillow. Here's the deal. I'm all over taking the steps necessary to allow the market forces to bring housing back in line. It's only because people like YOU have pushed the gov'ts to do the WRONG thing and interfere and make bad choices that we have this problem in the first place. But if you're not ready to get serious, if people like you are still out there going "tax the rich" and "gov't should build all the housing", which is exactly the wrong thing to do - then don't expect ME to feel bad for the people YOU are screwing over. You want people to have houses - then start WELCOMING the rich and THANKING the landlords. The more of those we have the more homes get build and the cheaper housing gets

Feel free to leave. I believe venezuela is accepting immigrants. they share some of your thinking. This is a capitalist economic system. The system ONLY works when people pay the value of the goods they want and get paid for the work they do. The reason prices are so high is because the gov't has interfered. Attempting to get the gov't to fix the problem they created is not reasonable. You hate developers, you hate landlords and yet it's the fact we don't have enough of either that's the source of our problem. You need to think about that a bit. If you hate those people you can't expect them to actually provide. THey'll invest their money elsewhere and people will freeze on the streets.

they estimate we're about 1,8 million homes short of where we need to be right now, so if we assume about 300k to build a unit even if they get the land cheap and even if we cut that back to 1.5 million that would be 450 billion dollars the gov't would have to come up with.

Well again - the constitution (or more accurately the charter) forbids it.' I'm sure you recall the challenges that came up during covid when provinces wanted to prevent people from travel between provinces. Everyone in Canada is subject to the charter, immigrant or not.

Freedom of movement is pretty much a constitutional right - you couldn't say "we're only going to provide gov't services if you live in such and such a spot.". I don't think that's a workable suggestion.

That might be true if it weren't for the fact that covid still affected young people even if it didn't kill them. Thousands are going through long covid with life altering results. Further, runaway transmission tends to lead to mutation. And that can be very very very bad. Fortunately the mutations we got weren't SO bad, with transmissibility going up but serious health issues going down. It doesn't always work that way. I wont' judge a younger person for not getting vaxed if they don't want to and i'm utterly opposed to mandates. But it would be crazy to think that allowing something as dangerous as covid in it's original form to run unchecked is a "good" idea.

HOw does that work though? Once people are in-country they can move around wherever they like. You could never police it and it wouldn't be constitutional if you could.

There system don't allow for there to be that many, and that's causing it's own problems right now. And the ones they do have tend to leave. And they move their money when they don't move themselves. And btw - people are leaving sweden in record numbers right now, and most of the other countries mentioned have sinilar problems. They simply can't support their models. So yeah - tax the rich and lose the country. Or the state - New york tried this too and it was a disaster that's left them with massive problems. Rich people will pay a certain amount in taxes, and after that it's cheaper to pay someone to hide it or to move it out of country for you. Or to leave and pay taxes in a cheaper jurisdiction. That is ALWAYS how it ends up.

I''m afraid that isn't true. The total number alone is inadequate. There is a HUGE shortage of all styles. The vast vast majority of homes built in greater vancouver for example are "average" townhomes and apartments. Not luxury. But we're still falling way short. It's estimated that we fall short about 100,000 homes per year. We are now short by close to 1.8 million homes as it turns out: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/adv/article-are-we-building-enough-homes-the-short-answer-is-no/ There's a few research documents on this. And this is why housing prices and rents are through the roof. And there is NO way to fix it except build more homes. and by 'more' we're talking shit-tonnes more.

Well we are dangerously close to something very bad that's true. High immigration beyond our ability to integrate people and which tends to be pushed into tight communities, no housing for anyone to live in, poor medical access, severe inflation driving prices up to the point where it's hard to get food... that's a recipe for disaster. And for sure the day is coming where work is harder to find, and then you get the kind of explosive unrest we've seen in European countries

Well this comes back to my original point tho - the voters have to hold the highest level of gov't to account if they don't pay attention. And they're not doing that. Voting liberal after all that's happened is absolutely horrible - and we get excuses like "but there's no alterative - after all harper hired a budget officer and it's turned me off the CPC". As long as the liberal supporters are prepared to vote in gov'ts who do this - why would they change.

Well the free trade agreement was worse, and it was trudeau who started off with the "score-points-with-the-left" shenannigans there. And he let Freeland publicly bad mouth trump pretty seriously before starting - which can't possibly help given how sensitive he is. So that probably did make things worse and without a doubt the deal is worse. Of course that was just one of his many trade gaffs. There was india - his little fashion show antics and inviting the guy who tried to kill their leader to dinner cost us what was a very lucrative trade arrangement. We'd spent years building up a large trade surplus with them starting with harper and in a month or so after his visit that had all gone bye bye. And of course there's the pissing off of Saudi arabia which reduced trade with them But at least the weren't a MAJOR partner. So - he didn't just "not help". He did make things worse. And not with just the US.

The job description stayed the same. And the first guy's term came to an end. They were all hired for a period of time. I love how you're trying to turn the fact he created the PBO's office into a sign that he was LESS transparent tho " I created a watchdog positon which has the freedom to investigate the budget and expenditures". "Curse your lack of transparency" How many positions like that has trudeau created? Ohhhh right It's literally what you said. So - if i quote you and use the words you said, it's "Petty word mongerinug" Well i don't think you're in any danger of making your mom proud at least you - "I SAY IT IS <this> me - "It doesnt' make sense to say it's <this>" You - HOW DAAAAAAARREEEEE YOU NIT PICK WHAT I SAAAAAAY!!!! LOL - holy shit man, if you think the word is petty or don't agree that's the right word then next time don't use it and i won't quote it i apologize for mistakenly thinking you meant what you said And everyone can see it's not anyone else who's projecting kiddo

Yeah , but hospitals have gift shops and coffee shops for profit too. The fact that things OTHER than those specifically covered by the health act are sold is already common and not really part of the equation. LIke paying for private or semi private rooms. For those services specifically covered by the health act - services which must be paid for by the gov't - it would still be gov't provisioning of public health care. They're just using private facilities. And the whole debate is stupid. As mentioned we already have private for profit doctors. Not to mention the medical supply companies are for profit, the drug companies are for profit, etc etc. MOST of our medical industry is private but paid for by the gov't.

Awww don't cry little guy - i'm not going to take your stuff Yet.

But they're not. The majority of people live in the east and the east is fine with destroying the west. So it continues. I know math isnt a strong suit of yours but surely you knew that. Just like there's more non-first nations than there are first nations. So if they turn against the first nations there would be squat all they could do about it. Bullshit. But lets say it was true - do you notice how it didn't do any good? If the majority decide someone is going to lose their rights - they lose their rights and the first nations is no different.

LOL sure kiddo

I guess we'll have to get used to more cops being shot and more crimes being committed. Unfortunate.

Actually i'm pretty wealthy You dumb man . You'd probably get more sympathy here if you weren't attacking me because i AGREED with you ROFLMAO

That is the LAST thing we need. I posted on another thread the other day how we would start seeing calls for this and why it would be a disaster. The problem exists because the gov'ts have over interfered with the natural market forces and at this point things are in such a way that not only is it seriously against the developer's interests to build housing in advance of need (which is what we want, houses in place before people show up so we have a small surplus) but also the bureaucracy will not let them build enough even if it was worth it. What we need is strong leadership pulling the provinces and the feds togethter and treating htis like a crisis and imposing the necessary changes together. THere are many, this isn't a simple thing, and they all need to be addressed to fix this. Building gov't 'affordable' homes will make the problem much worse. Sure gov'ts can still build a few places like that for the very poor but there is no way they can build enough to solve this problem or come close and trying to will actually reduce the market's effort to build so you'll just be worse off. We are 1 million homes short of where we need to be in order for housing prices to stabilize and become more affordable. And we're still not building enough - so we need to increase what we're building AND THEN add 1 million units. That is NOT going to happen with gov'ts building "affordable" housing.

Yeash. It's getting to the point where we should stop referring to it as 'an election' and start calling it 'regime change". It is beyond terrible that Canadians can see this stuff, and from csis mind you not some conspiracy site, and not be furious. The fact that ANYONE will still vote liberal is shaming.

Hasn't happened yet. But then i never go into negotations with bullshit. I'm also pretty consistent from beginning to end, which means i don't have to pretend i didn't say something later or explain that i meant something different than i said - which is the problem you've been running into. If we were negotiating i'd basically walk out with everything you own if that was my goal

Says the guy who;s not talking to me My problem is trying to type while i'm laughing so hard at your posts I suspect a lot of people have that problem

I note that you have weird fantasies about doing things to peoples ass Not that we're here to judge, there's nothing wrong with your lifestyle choices. And as others note you're already being laughed at Certainly by me as well - but if that's what you're into then keep going by all means We can use the entertainment watching you dance like a monkey! LOL - at least you've stopped begging me to go away like you're a child or something That was pretty amusing!

Thanks for the explanation.