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Yep, if you were lucky enough to get bail through a bail fund, you wouldn't have to pay the service fee. That's the sole difference. The money, when returned by the state, goes right back into the fund. No one is "paying for it." It's sort of held in escrow until the court case is over. And people are totally welcome to debate the bail system or disagree with Harris about the bail system. Where you guys (lead by Trump, of course) is the implication that Harris tweeting in support of protestors and the bail fund resulted in a murder. He's trying to tie those events together in a bogus Willie Horton style. But that's exactly as stupid as blaming a bail bondsman if a person granted bail commits a crime. The party putting up the bond (for-profit org, non-profit org or private) didn't have anything to do with eligibility for bail, nor with the subsequent crime.

Why are you even talking about illegal aliens? Nothing to do with any of this. And, FFS, I'm not the one trying to blame the bondsman. That's what YOU are doing when you want to slag Harris for this. The courts determine eligibility for bail. If a person commits a crime while on bail it's not the bondsman's fault. It's not the bail fund's fault. And it certainly isn't Kamala Harris' fault for tweeting support of the bail fund once.

Your takeaway from that story is that Khelif is a man--probably because that's what you were told. She's not. She did not develop as a man in utero, nor through puberty because--assuming the news is correct--she is genetically androgen resistant. Her body doesn't process and "use" testosterone even if it's in her bloodstream. That's why she is developed as a woman rather than a man. So in the conservative echo chamber you're probably hearing all kinds of nonsense about this "man" in women's boxing jacked up on testosterone and how it's terribly unfair and awful and riding the outrage wave of trans women in sport. Most of it's nonsense.

Okay, so then maybe don't say this: "It's really nothing like that at all. A bail bondsman does not pay a violent person's bail for them or encourage others to do it." But you're right, Harris is neither. She didn't pay anyone's bail. She supports reform of the broken cash bail system and advocated for an organization aligned to that mission. She supports civil rights protests and supported a cause aligned to that. Do you ACTUALLY have any interest in debating the virtue of the bail system. Is she right or wrong on the topic? And, BTW, the arrested are accused of breaking the law. They are innocent until proven otherwise. That's the basic fact that underlies the notion of release on bail. You're welcome to debate her on the issues, but it's just stupid to try and blame her for something some guy did while out on bail. The number of logical fallacies it takes to get to that kind of blame is absurd.

Lol. You didn't watch that "unintentionally." You didn't just happen to tune in and catch that moment. You were fed that clip by algorithms, personalized through experience to feed you a curated drip of misinformed outrage.

You are lying and you know it's a lie. Biden said there was zero inflation in July 2022. Indeed, there was zero inflation in July 2022. I gave you the CPI link. I pasted the screenshot for those too lazy to click and read. You KNOW that you're lying. You just don't care.

As always, you are dishonest. It was not a "bail fund to get rioters back on the streets." It's just a bail fund. People accused of all kinds of things, large and small, can receive bail. It exists to protest the preposterous notion that a cash bail system represents any kind of justice. And in Harris's case, she explicitly promoted the fund to support protestors, not "rioters."

This comes up every Olympic cycle, and there is usually a lot of misinformation to go with the misplaced outrage. I wont' pretend to know the medical situation of the specific athletes in question, but regarding the OP, people with Morris syndrome can't become pregnant. They don't have the parts. But they also don't have usable testosterone. Androgen insensitivity is core of the mutation to begin with. If they were able to use testosterone they would have developed as males in utero. In fact, typical women have far more usable testosterone. So testosterone doesn't really seem to be the issue at all. IIRC, there was a large study of elite athletes connected to this topic a few years back and, surprisingly, testosterone didn't seem to have any direct correlation with elite athletic ability. A lot of the male athletes had abnormally low testosterone and a some of the women had high testosterone. But, women with androgen insensitivity (and indeed, they have been women all their lives) are overrepresented in elite athletics, so there is seemingly some other advantage being conferred, even if it's not testosterone. But in any case, it's not a new phenomenon. Women with and without AIS have been competing as long as there have been women's sports. Some win and some lose. Those with AIS clearly don't have an unbeatable advantage or anything. It's NOT like competing against men or even someone who developed as a male and then transitioned. What I find interesting about this topic is that it forces people to come face-to-face with the reality of a gender spectrum. There's a lot of chemistry going on in our bodies that makes us who we are, and a huge spectrum across most of it, much of which we don't entirely understand. I know people are, by nature, reductive. We like simple, binary situations that don't make us think too much. But every time this topic comes up it rather forces the issue. Thinking must occur. And in that thinking process people are more inclined to make room in the world, society and sport for our fellow humans.

Yes, a non-profit bail fund and a for-profit bail bondsman are not identical entities. That tautologically true. But also irrelevant to the topic. And, BTW, in either case, the conditions are the same for "getting paid back." The state returns bail to anyone who makes their court appearances. In either case, the courts determine bail eligibility and amount. Whether bail funds are from a non-profit or for-profit (or private) entity, those entities don't have any responsibility for determining eligibility or for what happens afterward. That's a ludicrous thought process. If you want to protest against the idea of bail, and the idea that a person is innocent until proven guilty, have at it. But the people putting up bail money didn't create that system.

Lolwut? Yes, the primary function of a bail bondsman is to put up bail money for those eligible for bail (for a fee). That's the entire ridiculous industry that has formed around the ridiculous notion of cash bail.

His fake MAGA accent is slipping.

Would I be mad at the bail bondsman? Of course not. See above. That's just stupid.

Hey, look, your regular list of false claims while simultaneously ranting about lying. As predicted, I still see you've got "no inflation" In the list still, despite knowing full well that you are lying. Or, perhaps you simple forgot to remove it from the obsessive list of fictional grievances that you copy and paste to spam the board.

Blaming Harris for ^^this is even dumber than blaming a bail bondsman when someone out on bail commits a crime. That's just the nature of the bail system. People on bail sometimes commit crimes. Judges do their best to assess that risk, but it happens.

We already knew he lacked a sense of empathy, but apparently he also lacks a sense of irony The idea that "Trump is America's Hitler" Vance is calling anyone else on Earth a "chameleon" is too rich.

In a move that was previously unimaginable in the United States, Trump tried to overthrow democracy and seize power in a coup attempt. Literally. That's not an imaginary monster. It's a very the real monster. And what's scary about it is that a huge chunk of America is apparently willing to go along with such behavior. You'll stand for the national anthem with your hands on your hearts. You'll sing the words. You'll salute the flag and recite the pledge of allegiance. You'll praise the heros who died to win and preserve our freedom. And you'll do it all lying through phony grins, because the truth is that you care so little about this country that you'll line up to support a man who has already tried once to end the American experiment.

Okay. You're complaining about the efficacy of the status quo in which sanctions are our only leverage, having abandoned the multilateral deal. You are complaining about the result, but you want to blame someone else for the status quo Trump created. Talk about "verbal gymnastics." I repeat, if you didn't like Iran's accelerated nuclear trajectory, point your finger at the man who dismantled the deal to slow and manage it. Again, he broke it and walked away, as he did with a good many things.

Trump withdrew (literally) 90% of the troops. He intended to withdraw 100%, but didn't quite make it and left the final 2500 troops in country for his successor. In my view, the person who made the plan, made the deal and did 90% of the job was charge in charge of the thing. When you have just 2500 troops in a country that is lost to the Taliban already, there aren't many options, but if you'd like to apportion 10% of blame to Biden, knock yourself out. And it's not a matter of believing what they will abide by. That deal was our access and our leverage. It was the way for the world to monitor and manage Iran. Without it we simply have nothing. If Trump had come up with a better alternative, that's one thing, but he didn't. As an agent of chaos he simply broke it and moved on.

The Trump administration made a deal, in writing, with the Taliban to, in essence, give them back Afghanistan. They actively excluded the Afghan government from that process. Then Trump pulled nearly the entire US military presence from Afghanistan before leaving office. Reasonable people can debate about whether or not we should have exited Afghanistan, but there isn't any debate that the events above returned the Taliban to power. And Trump withdrew the US from the JCPOA (US, EU, UK, Russia, China, etc.) deal to prevent a nuclear Iran. Again, reasonable people can debate the quality of that deal, but it's not debatable that destroying the only mechanism for deterring nuclear Iran accelerated Iran's trajectory to becoming a nuclear power. He broke it without replacing it, so yes, he owns that acceleration.

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You literally said (and have implied MANY more times) that you want to use force to take from the people the power of self determination. That you'd advocate seizing power through violence if the election didn't go your way. You are a literal checklist of fascist characteristics, but too much of a coward to even own your own grotesque identity. 🥱 Go shake your fist at the sky, you impotent windbag. I'm just grateful that you're Canada's problem, and utterly irrelevant to the US politics over which you obsess.

You can make arguments about the border or inflation, but the resurgent Taliban and a belligerent Iran are inarguably Trump's doing.

Exactly. And not just for Black people. It's everyone. The racist a-holes on this forum are going to perform differently at work or in public spaces.

As long as we're clear that you are acknowledging--nay, embracing--the fact that you are anti-democratic fascists. That's the choice you're making.

As always, you creeps show your true colors. Unfortunately it's an ugly shade of treasonous yellow. You don't care a bit about democracy or the will of the people. To hell with the will of the people! You'll use violence to force them to live according to your will instead. You little fascists are just detestable.