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See what I mean? Conservatards are all angry little children who can't accept reality. Nope, I just accept that they're the lesser evil. They're the adults in the room who, for all their flaws, can do the job.

When Hillary lost, she didn't throw an insane tantrum, but Trump did. I don't like the DNC, but at least they're not batshit loons that became totally detachted from reality.

Oh no, I agree conservatives are alright with some forms of change. I'm saying that when a change happens that they don't like, they can't accept that the nation wanted that change, because that would mean the nation is wrong (to them). And that goes against the narrative that country X is the best country ever. That's why when a change happens that conservatives don't like, they have to blame it on a foreign element like marxist Jews from Frankfurt. Most people believe that values are maintained through force in the form of laws. What does woke mean? ?

Notice how this was just a random person. This no way represents an establishment. However, on the Right, the entire establishment actually is this insane. The way Trump reacted when he lost was even worse than this random-ass person. And that sums up politics in America. There are lunatics in all groups. But only on the Right are the lunatics the majority.

Is it really the loon faction when it's virtually the entire party?

"Woke Cultists Want Unhindered Spread of Evil" ?

Sometimes kids do what they want any way, sometimes they don't. The fact that we still live under a patriarchy means that gender roles still control the lives of way too many people. Yes, I'm sure you have plenty of anecdotal evidence, I'm sure each one is more real than the last. The reality is that lots of kids grow up being afraid of breaking gender roles. This is especially true of boys, because if they do girly things, they're called weak or gay. Respond to me, not the voices in your head. Do I really need to start listing studies that prove gender roles still affect people? Like can you stop the bad faith anti-reality arguments?

No, I'm calling out your dishonesty. The Right knows that the word "grooming" has sexual overtones, so they use it any time they're trying to demonize people who teach kids. If a teacher is teaching kids that it's ok to be different, and you fascists want to demonize that teacher, you'll say they're grooming those kids. I think trannies teaching kids that it's ok to be different and ignore gender roles is good.

True, but this goes against a vital part of conservatism. Conservatism relies on your country being the greatest country ever with the greatest people ever. The only way bad social change can happen is if some outside entity forces the change, since the people would never want to change tradition. This is why conservatives are so quick to believe in conspiracy theories about Jews, Masons, Marxists, the Illuminati, in all cases a foreign group has forced change on the nation.

Little kids do, then they're taught "that's not for boys/girls." Society conditions kids since birth that they have to do either "girl things" or boy things." Drag Queen Story Hour is good because it says, bump that, do what you want. The reason Republicans are obsessed with trans people and drag queens now is to distract from economics, but conservativism as an ideology and movement has always been against these things because they question the patriarchy. Part of conservatism is the idea that gender roles must be enforced. But drag queens, gay people, and trans people all debunk the argument that we need enforced gender roles to have a functioning society. Most of them don't. They're not. Drag Queen Story Hour isn't about sex, you creepy weirdo.

So when you say "grooming," you really just mean any kind of education for children. Like teaching kids to read, that's grooming. They can't make you learn. Learning is woke.

Doesn't most everyone believe that? Isn't that the point of laws? I think the only people who would disagree are anarchists.

Illinois is actually one of the better states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/quality-of-life-by-state

This is what you sound like.

They actually want to arrest us for stealing tons of classified documents and showing them to Kid Rock. Trump is just in the way. And remember, if they can hold Trump accountable, they can hold anyone accountable!

That's how it's always been defined. That's why the Right can't define it. And yet you can't define either. Can you try your hardest to not be dumb as dogshit? A transphobe is someone who is transphobic, not someone who disagree with my "ideology," whatever that is. Are you aware that your conspiracy about marxism and trans identity came from nazi propaganda? Try not to be a wuss and just answer this question, yes or no.

The original Nazi Party was actually capitalist, despite the name. Most industry in Nazi Germany was privatized. And of course, neo-nazis like you are against socialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem https://www.axios.com/2023/01/27/murder-rate-high-trump-republican-states But I know you don't care. Conservatism is about the feels, not the reals.

So I let Bill Gates drink my blood for no reason? Is that what you're telling me? You're deflecting because you know you're wrong here.

Not changing the subject at all. I'm saying that all of the claims you made have already been made. You nazis have been making them for decades. None of them came true because your cultural marxism conspiracy theory is wrong. Didn't you say Kamala Harris should step down because her husband is descended from slave-owners? Isn't that the same kind of biological essentialism that racists proclaim?

That's not a thing. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find some crazy-ass fringe cases, but that's all. It doesn't mean there's a huge push to actually recognize humans as a different species.

So how come so many societies have recognized three genders? How comes there have always been trans people? You sound like conservatives from the seventies, talking about how all these gay people are coming out of nowhere.

When like 95% of conservatives are authoritarian, we have to accept that conservatism is an authoritarian ideology. Movements are defined by the majority, not the minority. So we're not giving in, we're just accepting this is what the Right is. So there have been a few exceptions to the rule when it comes to conservatives and corporate interests. In America, conservatives have a history of being environmentalists because so many of them live in rural areas. When you grow up surrounded by and enjoying nature, you're more open to conservation efforts. This was before right-wing media turned environmentalism into a left-wing thing. So yeah, this used to be an exception for the American Right. As for the first federal civil rights act, do you mean the civil rights act of 1866? That happened before the party switch. And yes, I know the party switch has been somewhat exaggerated, but during this time the Republicans were to the Left of the Democrats. Conservatives didn't want people to be allowed to vote if they didn't own land. I understand that having any form of democracy was a big deal at the time, but the Right also opposed every single movement to expand voting throughout American history. I agree that earlier conservatives would be disgusted by Donald Trump's stupidity and the embarrassing "anti-woke" culture wars. But they would see the rejection of democracy as a good thing.