Rebound

Do you think that having more skin pigment gives a person a biological reason to wake up and commit a crime? Let’s say, for sake of argument, that we agree that, yes, black people are pulled over, arrested and convicted at disproportionate rates, and they are falsely convicted at disproportionate rates, and they are more impoverished, on average. BUT!!! Let’s say, for sake of argument, that once we control for all of those effects, the persistent fact remains that black people nonetheless commit crime at a higher rate. Question is: What do we do about that? Should we blame people for being black? Should we tell black people that they posses a “crime gene”? Because in my life experience, if you keep telling someone that there’s something wrong with them, they’ll usually believe it. So if we call black people criminals, we won’t solve our problems. The solution is more complex. We know that incarceration is the most expensive solution. It’s extremely expensive. And telling people their skin color means they’re a criminal is untrue and, if anything, it’s self-fulfilling.

Nice try, but what you said was that Michelle Obama is not as well-educated as Hillary Clinton. We’ve now established that you’re wrong.

You’re more than welcome to find a better source for this data. That’s fine with me and I would be happy to help you analyze it. However, worldwide, two statistics are very clear: 1) Vaccination rates increase substantially with age; 2) Mortality increases substantially with age. I strongly doubt that Canada is different in this respect but I’m happy to look at other data if you find something better.

Michelle Obama graduated from Princeton University and Harvard Law School. Plenty well educated.

All those people you despise are better humans than Nazis. And you are a Nazi. A person who denies the Holocaust or who says Hitler didn’t cause it is a NAZI. Enjoy the label. You have chosen evil.

You are stupid or you are lying. Which is it? Your 86% figure is bogus, because nearly all the deaths occur in a group that is 98% vaccinated. That is why probability of dying is several times higher among the unvaxxed. Every study has concluded this and you’re ignoring important pieces of data AND the conclusions in order to manipulate the data to give you the answer you want. Those are the facts. Either you understand them, and you’re just lying, or you don’t understand them, and you’re stupid. Stupid or lying. Which? And here’s the age data: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/ Age 80+ is >99% vaccinated and 70-80 96.7% and even 60-70 is 94%. Now go look at the ages of the people dying from Covid. 0-11 45 12-19 23 20-29 140 30-39 325 40-49 671 50-59 1,805 60-69 4,144 70-79 7,532 80+ 19,551 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1228632/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-age/ The proper analysts requires the two data combined, by quarter or month, because vaccination status changed over time. And if you do that, you will see mortality that is 3x to 5X higher among the unvaxxed, because nearly all deaths occurred among cohorts that were 94 to 99% vaccinated, not 86% vaccinated.

Age.

It’s simpler than that: With over 95% of the most vulnerable cohorts vaxxed and over 85% of Canadians age 18+ vaccinated, he yells: “Look! The RAW NUMBER of Covid death is higher in the group that contains 90% of the population and lower in the group that contains 10%!!! No shlt, Sherlock.

No, you’re taking INCOMPLETE DATA and reaching the wrong conclusion, contradicting the experts who studied all the data. Over 90% of the elderly were vaccinated but more than 10% of deaths were unvaccinated. There were three main variants of Covid: Alpha, Delta and Omicron. That’s the three waves you see in the tables. Didn’t you know this?

You can talk all you want, but the data you are presenting is incomplete and you can’t use it to draw the conclusions you’re making. The epidemiologists who have analyzed all available data have concluded, in that report which you’re quoting from, that vaccination reduces risk of death.

Not sure why you aren't including the hyperlinks, but there are some problems with the data as you're presenting it. Most significantly, you've left out age-related data. We know that a very high percentage of deaths are among the elderly, and the elderly have an extremely high vaccination rate. Without age-specific data, it's not possible to know what we're seeing. In fact, Canada reports that over 57% of Covid deaths were in people age 80+ and another 22% were in ages 70-79. All tolled, 91.2% of deaths were among those aged 60+. So we need to look more closely at how vaccinations affected those groups by age, especially the 5-60 year-olds. The "Cases" data is almost useless, because there's no way to be certain how many cases were and were not reported. Hospitalizations are much more accurate, presuming this is data which was reported from all hospitals to the government. If that's so, we see that the death rate of Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated Hospitalized is equal. However, we don't have the age data. We know that around 95+ % of Canada's elderly are vaccinated and that rate falls substantially with age. So we need to see these data broken down by age to understand the efficacy of the vaccine. In other words: The correlation you're showing is that older people have a higher vaccination rate AND a higher mortality rate. That tells us little of vaccine efficacy by itself. Got it?

I did not personally meet these people. However, the alleged “news” organization known as Fox News, who called these people “Illegal Migrants” in their headline, quoted the Mayor of New York in calling them “asylum seekers.”

Hitler didn’t start by murdering Jews. He started by calling Jews “animals” and blaming all of Germany’s problems on them. Then, Hitler did the same thing you’re doing, he concocted lies, such as your lie that Democrats register illegal aliens to vote. Well… Trump filed his 64 lawsuits and lost them all… no voting illegal aliens in all those lawsuits? Arizona, Georgia, Michigan and PA conducted recounts and audits and no illegal aliens found? So we know that’s a lie, but you keep spreading it. So, you’re a Nazi too, like your buddy Deluge. Simple question, Nazi: If you’re so certain that you’re right, why do you continually resort to lies and insults? Shouldn’t facts and logic be sufficient? Seems like every time anyone puts a fact in front of your nose, you scream “Fake News!!!! Fake News!!!”, no matter the source. Anything that contradicts you is automatically Fake News. Which is the next thing the Nazis did, Mr. Goebbels. And how did Goebbels wind up? He wound up murdering his six children, his wife, and himself. Yeah. Great guy.

Those are not animals, they are human beings. The Nazis did exactly what you’re doing: Call a group “animals.” The purpose is to de-humanize them. After all, we slaughter animals. We eat them. Animals don’t have human rights. Don’t think for a second that we’re fooled at all when you call fellow human beings “animals.” We are all children of God, and none of us is greater than another.

Ok, what does the Government of Canada say? The government says that the data prove that vaccines work against Covid. ALBERTA: “The protection that vaccines provide against severe disease continues to be strong even many months after immunization. Two doses of a COVID vaccine dramatically reduce the risk of hospitalization or death, and a third dose will offer even more protection.” https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-effectiveness NOVA SCOTIA, January 2023: • Age and lack of vaccination continue to be associated with severe outcomes: • Nova Scotians aged 70+ have been hospitalized at almost 19 times the rate of those 18-49 years of age and their rate of death is 280 times higher compared to those under 50 years of age. • Unvaccinated Nova Scotians were hospitalized and died at almost three times the rate as those with three or more doses (hospitalized = 2.7; died=2.5) https://novascotia.ca/coronavirus/docs/COVID-19-epidemiologic-summary_2023-01-10.pdf PUBLIC HEALTH, ONTARIO & UNIVERSITY OF ONTARIO: “In this study, in contrast to high estimated VE (Vaccine Effectiveness) against symptomatic Delta infection and severe outcomes after 2 doses of COVID-19 vaccine, estimated VE was modest and short term against symptomatic Omicron infection but better maintained against severe outcomes. A third dose was associated with improved estimated VE against symptomatic infection and with high estimated VE against severe outcomes for both variants. Preventing infection due to Omicron and potential future variants may require tools beyond the currently available vaccines. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2796615

I imagine you, hacking your lungs out from long-term Covid.

You understand that this study compared the effectiveness of surgical masks to N95 masks… NOT masks versus no mask at all. Right?

Yeah, I can’t imagine why right-wing media would call asylum seekers “illegal immigrants.” Hmmm…

If you read those documents, they first state clearly that a neck restraint is an absolute last resort and that it often results in cardiac arrest. It describes the neck restraint as being applied to one or both SIDES of the neck, not the back. It also calls for protection of the trachea, and immediate application of CPR if needed. None of that was done. It’s also not clear why the police hauled the handcuffed Floyd out of the police cruiser and placed him on the ground, where Floyd repeatedly stated that he could not breathe. IOW, it’s not clear at all why a man who passed a bogus $20 had lethal force applied.

Perhaps if Floyd had not taken fentanyl, Chauvin would not have stood on his neck for nine minutes. But you do not seem to understand a simple fact of law: At its broadest, American police officers only have the authority to use lethal force if it is necessary for the imminent protection of human life or serious physical injury, or when a dangerous suspect of a crime involving infliction of serious physical injury is attempting to flee. Deadly force is not permitted anywhere in the United States to enable the arrest of a non-violent, unarmed felon who is fleeing. For example, we recently saw a video of a hammer-wielding suspect attacking an elderly man. Under the Constitution, police could have used deadly force once certain the hammer wielder was about to hit the elderly man with it, and certainly after he struck the man once. However, state and local laws may be more restrictive than the Constitutional permissions.

Fact is that the man was convicted of murder. Fact is that the coroner did not report a fentanyl overdose. Fact is you don’t have your facts straight, muchacha. But if you’re up for it, I’d be happy to stand on your neck for nine minutes while you’re sober so we can see whether you’d survive. In the name of science.

No you ldiot, Chauvin was convicted of murder by the unanimous decision a jury. You’re just a dope.

Which billionaire?

I provided the data and the link to the Nielsen ratings. Do you know what a Nielsen rating is? Or do I need to educate you again?

Let me just throw out a wild guess: 1) Whatever ways you benefit from government spending, you don’t want to cut 2) Oil and gas subsidies: No cuts 3) Agriculture subsidies: No cuts 4) Anything in Mitch McConnell’s state: No cuts 5) Defense: Increase 6) California: Cut everything. Oh, wait, speaker of the house is Californian. So… tell us what cuts will make it through this legislative session?