Hudson Jones

Funeral of Arafat Jaradat on February 25th, 2013. http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/480640_10151269990860168_116275757_n.jpg

Report after report point at the Catholic church's priests' high rate of homosexuality. I wonder why there are so many closet homosexuals who preach the word of the god who says homosexuality is wrong. Here is Christiane Amanpour: On my first day in Rome, a former friar tells me that homosexuality “the ticking time bomb” for Catholic Church and that at least 50% in seminaries "are gay." Also Vatican journalist Marco Politi says that Pope Benedict XVI’s resignation was “the last act of a series of crises.”Link

There is more from the autopsy and more information will be released: In a joint press conference, held in the central West Bank city of Ramallah, with the head of the Palestinians Prisoners Society (PPS), Qaddoura Fares, Qaraqe’ said that the autopsy was conducted at the Abu Kabeer Forensic Facility. The body of Jaradat carried clear signs of torture such as bruises, blisters and under skin blood clots in the back, especially over his spinal cord, on the neck and on his left shoulder, in addition to signs of torture on the left side of his chest, bruised mouth and face. Link We will have to see if Israel will agree to do an investigation or just let another questionable incident be forgotten. Imagine if such a thing had happened to Gilad Shalit. Imagine if Israeli prisoners were held in detention, without a hearing and trial indefinitely.

A third intifada is feared after several recent incidents. The incidents include Jewish settler violence, including shots fired, olive trees burnt and Palestinian villagers beaten. This was capped with a Palestinian dying after being tortured in the hands of Shin Bet, who denies the charges. Arafat Jaradat, a 29-year-old Palestinian detainee, died at the Shin Bet said that Jaradat was arrested last week on suspicion he hurled stones at an Israeli civilian during Operation. A statement issued by the Pillar of Defense. On Saturday, he fell ill and medics were unable to save him. Police launched an investigation. Jaradat's family was notified immediately after his death. Link Jaradat's body was dissected in the presence of a Palestinian pathologist, several family members and a legal team from the Palestinian Authority's Prisoner Affairs office. According to the institute, the autopsy revealed no external physical injuries other than those suffered during resuscitation attempts and a small bruise on the right side of the chest. The autopsy also did not find evidence of illness. "Two muscle bleedings were noted, one in the shoulder and one on the right side of the chest and on both elbows. "Two broken ribs on the right side were seen, which could be the result of the resuscitation attempts. These preliminary findings can't determine the cause of death," the forensic institute said. "At this stage, before the microscopic and toxicological tests have been finished, the cause of death can't be related to the autopsy's findings." Link

In Canada, there aren't ethnic communities who are prevented from going to certain school. In Israel, there are. In Canada, there aren't ethnic communities who are prevented from renting in certain communities. In Israel, there are. You can keep downplaying the racist nature of many Israeli Jews, but the reality is that Israel, in general, is a very racist country. Especially when it comes to the treatment of its black population. Racism against the Ethiopian Jews is real: TEL AVIV, 9 February 2012 (IRIN) - Growing up in Israel, Shay Sium became accustomed to being called a “nigger”. Sium, 32, has lived in Israel most of his life, but says he and other Ethiopian Jews are treated differently from other Israelis: factories do not want to employ them; landlords refuse them; and certain schools turn away their children. "The word discrimination doesn’t describe what we experience. There is another word for it: racism. It is a shame that we still have to use this word today,” he told IRIN. Link Look at the responses in this thread and anywhere on the net about endless amount of information about how Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against. The fact that there is a policy to control their birthrate is not a surprise, considering how much racism is towards them and how there are so many who rather not have them live amongst them. You need to learn from the information being provided to you here and the endless amount of information provided to you on the internet. Resisting the truth only cements that you are not here for the truth. Ethiopian Jews didn't suddenly appear in Israel. They have been there since the 60's. How come this sudden drop in birthrate coincided with the accusation of Israel forcing birth control in Ethiopian Jews? Oh yeah, because Israel decided to systematically control their birthrate. Too many blacks are not desired in Israel. No. Forcing birth control = sudden drop in birth rate. Stop resisting the truth. What? You just typed nonsense and didn't respond to the comment: Your argument is that this sudden drop in birthrate may be due to Israeli Ethiopian women's sudden change in cultural practices. I don't think anyone here, besides others like you, who will go to any length to justify Israeli actions, will see any logic and rational behind your explanation. Oh no. Here you go again. Ethiopian Jews have been living in Israel for many decades and the sudden birthrate drop happened in only the last decade, while the "women had more choices, living in a developed nation" for many decades. Did they suddenly decide that they had many choices in the past decade and not in the previous decades while living in Israel or because there was a birth control policy which was implemented by a racist country who is trying to keep the population of the Negroids down? No you have not been able to respond. These natural changes in cultural practices happen naturally. They don't suddenly change and have a dramatic drop which coincide with a birth control practice that we already know has happened to a number of Ethiopian women.

How ridiculous is that comment. You don't make sense. Are you pretending that there isn't discrimination against Ethiopian Jews in Israel and that there aren't groups in Israel who do not accept them as Jews? The Ethiopian Jews ended up in Israel because they are Jews. It's the right of all Jews to end up in Israel. Israel is obligated to allow all Jews into Israel. Stop trying to pretend that Israel was doing these people a favour when they were obligated to bring them into the country.There has been much resistance from many Israelis to not allow the black Jews to enter Israel or to live amongst them. Information has already been shared in this thread about discrimination against Ethiopian Jews in Israel. Information that goes against the Israeli apologist narrative. But here is more information anyway: But not everyone is sympathetic. Israeli mayors unabashedly urge the government to keep Ethiopian immigrants away from their cities. During a break in Ishete's talk, Masha Aroshes, Rishon LeZion municipality official, says that more Ethiopian families due to arrive here are not welcome. "They are going to a neighborhood which the mayor has been trying very hard to improve," she says. "It is just starting to flower. Adding another 35 Ethiopian families is not right. It impacts on the education level. In order for the Ethiopians to be properly absorbed, they should not go there." That kind of talk is adding to alienation among Ethiopians, according to Asher Elias, a staff member at the Israel Association for Ethiopian Jews (IAEJ). "Ethiopians have lots of motivation to become Israelis, but they are not accepted," he says. "In jobs, in education, people feel they are discriminated against because they are black. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but it is what we are feeling, and that is enough." Some Israelis don't accept Ethiopian Jews as Jews: Habad, one of Israel's stronger orthodox religious groups, doesn't recognize Ethiopians as Jews or allow their children into its kindergartens. Link That narrative has already been answered to and has been debunked. Yet, you comeback and repeat them? Are you ever going to learn? So you are now desperately trying to equate the difference in birthrate of Canadians in 24 years, which went from 27 to 15 per 1000. A difference of 45% in the span of 24 years. Whereas in Israel, the population of Israeli Ethiopians went down 50% in the span of 10 years. This sudden decrease can be contributed to something the Israeli government has admitted to doing and has stopped doing after pressure from several human rights organizations. Your argument is that this sudden drop in birthrate may be due to Israeli Ethiopian women's sudden change in cultural practices. I don't think anyone here, besides others like you, who will go to any length to justify Israeli actions, will see any logic and rational behind your explanation. You are going back to trying to make this out to be a natural drop in birthrate when the 50% drop in birthrate was in 10 years. That is NOT a natural decline in birthrate. Stop making things up. Here is a response that was already made to you in another post: These natural changes in cultural practices happen naturally. They don't suddenly change and have a dramatic drop which coincide with a birth control practice that we already know has happened to a number of Ethiopian women. You're basing your comment on hot air and useless assumptions. There is no evidence that Ethiopian women are acting on their own choice. However, there is evidence that a large percentage of them who have been interviewed have said they were forced or coerced into taking birth control. At least you are not trying to compare Ethiopian Jews in Israel to Ethiopian Jews in Ethiopia anymore. But I won't hold my breath. You have a habit of recycling debunked claims and narratives. Instead of re-typing, I will just repost what has been posted before: Before you try to deal and lobby assumptions, why not deal and accept the information we have from this situation: - Over 30 women have given their account of a systematic plan to control the birth rate of Ethiopians - The government of Israel has admitted to this practice by ordering the practice to stop - A 50% birthrate drop in only 10 years is a shockingly dramatic drop in birthrate - This sharp drop-off coincides with the arrival of the last wave of immigration of Ethiopian Jews and the start of the depro-vera practice.

It's coming out: Reports: Pope resigned after findings of blackmail, corruption, gay sex at Vatican Link

Israel admitted to and acknowledged that Israeli doctors are giving Jewish Ethiopians birth control injections and has asked the practice to stop. Good that you are finally acknowledging (or admitting). Because before you said in response to my comment: Me: Same thing. They have acknowledged (admitted) the practice of injecting Ethiopian immigrants with birth control. You: No, it's not the same thing. At all. As I said before: Same thing. They have acknowledged (admitted) the practice of injecting Ethiopian immigrants with birth control. This was done in order to control their birthrate. Says you and other Israeli apologists. Many believe otherwise due to the overwhelming evidence. Over 50% of Depo-Provera prescribed in Israel have been to the Ethiopian Jews, while they're less than 2% of the population of Israel. Not only that, but countless Ethiopian women have come out saying that they were forced or coerced into getting the injection. If that's not enough evidence, since this project started, in 10 years, the birthrate fell by 50%. So, according to the information, Israel has had a systematic policy to control the Ethiopian Israelis' birthrate. Good lord. What an absolutely dishonest form of debating. In Canada, women are not coming out saying that they have been forced and coerced into taking Depo-Provera. In Canada, we don't have a so-called undesirable class, whose population has suddenly dropped by 50% in 10 years. You want to use ridiculous form of debating, that's your choice. But don't expect others to accept the ridiculous narrative.

In an interview to the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth, the former neoconservative diplomat criticizes Hagel for his “I am an American senator” remark. Israeli journalist Nahum Barnea has today a short interview with Elliott Abrams on the issue of Chuck Hagel’s nomination to Secretary of Defense, which various Israeli advocacy groups have opposed. Abrams opens by explaining why he believes Hagel is an anti-Semite, referring to Hagel’s past remark on “the Jewish Lobby” (by the way, this is the term Israelis use too, including most of the press. Examples: here, here, here, here, here, here). Abrams: “I don’t hate him (Hagel). I don’t know him in person. I have friends who say they have known him for years and never heard an anti-Semitic remark from him. I think that everyone who rules out an initiative by Jews to influence American policy is an anti-Semite. That’s my definition. “Hagel once said ‘I am not an Israeli senator, I am an American senator. My commitment is to the United States’. This wasn’t a gaffe.” […] Barnea: You know that eventually he will be confirmed. The Senate usually doesn’t interfere with the president’s appointments. Abrams: “Yes. I suppose he will be confirmed. But he will be a weaker secretary of defense. The fight against Hagel presents the Republican party as a very pro-Israeli party, which is a good thing. Second, it’s becoming clear to everyone that there is a strong pro-Israeli lobby that is relying mostly on Christians. This is not a Jewish lobby.”

You are now changing what we're talking about, by inserting the word others, because you are realizing you sound ridiculous. We are talking about Israel admitting to something happening vs Israel acknowledging to something happening, which are the same thing. Israel has acknowledged/admitted that Ethiopian Jews have been given Depo-provera by Israel in order to control their birthrate. They have acknowledged/admitted this by ordering the policy to stop.

Acknowledging something is happening is admitting to something is.happening. Why is it difficult for you to comprehend something so simple?

And it continues: Cardinal Favored to Become First Black Pope Blames Gay Priests for the Church’s Sexual Abuse Scandals "African traditional systems kind of protect or have protected its population against this tendency," he said. "Because in several communities, in several cultures in Africa homosexuality or for that matter any affair between two sexes of the same kind are not countenanced in our society." Link

Same thing. They have acknowledged (admitted) the practice of injecting Ethiopian immigrants with birth control. This was done in order to control their birthrate. You can try to wiggle and twist and pretend that it hasn't been a systematic policy, but anyone who isn't drunk with nationalistic, or religious zionism, which includes apologizing for Israel at all costs, can see the reality in front of them.

While the Israeli apologists are hard at work, trying to justify or deny and cloud an obvious discriminatory policy towards the Ethiopian Jews, this latest news reflects a broader problem in Israel. Here are excerpts from an article by Emily Hauser: On Sunday it was reported that Israel has finally admitted to systematically depressing the fertility of the Ethiopian immigrant community (information first reported five years ago) by injecting Ethiopian-Israeli women with the long-acting birth control drug Depo-Provera without informed consent.While this story is horrifying enough unto itself, it cannot be removed from a larger and equally disturbing picture. the state has often questioned the very Judaism of Jews who had literally trekked across wastelands, many dying on the way, in order to be among their own. Some were forced to undergo conversions; couples that had been married for decades were forced to remarry; and it was recently announced that the Israeli rabbinate plans to phase out the community’s traditional clergy, the kessim. But there’s still more at play here, something that goes beyond the simple and striking racism so evident in every one of the above stories: Israel has always had a problem with Jews who differ in some way from the Ashkenazi culture of the founding generation. When Sephardi Jews began to pour into the newly established country from all across the Middle East and North Africa, they were called primitivim, and they and their children were treated as such for decades. Many Yemenite families still believe their children were kidnapped and adopted; official inquiries have found that while that didn’t happen (with 56 possible exceptions), possibly hundreds of children died and were buried without their parents being informed. Newly arrived Sephardi children were routinely treated poorly by the Ashkenazi schools to which they were sent, marriages were forbidden by angry Ashkenazi parents, and home-seeking Sephardi families were shunted to disadvantaged development towns. The establishment and meteoric rise of Shas in Israeli politics came largely in response to this reality. This most recent example of blatant dehumanization of the Ethiopian community must be addressed at the highest levels. The policy of depressing the community’s birth rate must be investigated, and those responsible must be held accountable. And Israeli society must decide: Is the Jewish homeland for all Jews, are the soaring promises of equality in our Declaration of Independence to be taken seriously—or is Israel a giant shul in an East European shtetl, with the Israeli government playing the role of a bullying gabbai? Or perhaps a simpler question: If birth control were being forced on Jewish women in any other country—what would we say? Link

Perhaps you need to pay attention. I already showed how CAMERA was caught infiltrating Wikipedia. Try focusing on the information being given to you. Now, here is another chance for you to respond to a post. The Israeli government admitted to being guilty of having a program to control the birthrate of the unwanted by ordering the program to stop after receiving criticism from several human rights organizations. The action is there for everyone to see. The numbers are there for everyone to see. The ongoing discrimination towards Ethiopian Jews all point to a racist government with a racist agenda.

Hah.

Really jbg? To show the ridiculousness of your response, I will give you an analogy: It's like me criticizing the rapist and you coming back with, "I guess you prefer killers." What does Israel's program to forcibly control the Jewish Ethiopian population have to do with Iran? Talk about unfortunate debating skills.

Tell me when you get around to replying to my post on page 9. I am not going to respond to articles from CAMERA. CAMERA is another slimy lobbyist/propaganda organization who has been caught showing how it is a slimy propaganda organization. I don't want to waste mytime responding to anything that comes from them.

CAMERA is another Israeli lobby group. Taking them seriously is like taking Syrian state sponsored media outlets seriously. They've been caught infiltrating Wikipedia to try take over the tone on Israel-related information. Five editors involved in the campaign were sanctioned by Wikipedia administrators, who wrote that Wikipedia's open nature "is fundamentally incompatible with the creation of a private group to surreptitiously coordinate editing". Zionist apologists will try to pass off propaganda pieces as 'good articles'. Commenting on the incident, Gershom Gorenberg, of the liberal magazine The American Prospect, stated "CAMERA is ready to exempt itself from the demands for accuracy that it aims at the media. And like others engaged in the narrative wars, it does not understand the difference between advocacy and accuracy." Gorenberg criticized CAMERA for telling members not to share information about the campaign with media, and he also argued Ini's definition of accuracy "only means not printing anything embarrassing to his own side" The Zionist apologists are quick to repeat the propaganda script and drown reality and truth. They are well-organized and motivated. Some use the motivation of extreme nationalism, some religious and some are motivated to make money. Once again, despite a few members' attempt at derailing the truth; Israel rarely admits to wrongdoings unless it has no other choice. Israel admitted that their birth control policy is wrong after receiving pressure from several human rights organizations and the backlash it would receive if it at least didn't pretend that it's stopping the program. Now it's trying to downplay the severity of the situation by unleashing the propaganda machine, which include what some people call, hasbara bots.

A reminder about Israel's action. Genocide is defined as: ...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; ( Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

It is ironic that some of the Israel-firster senators are trying to chastise Hagel for saying that the Jewish (meaning Israel) lobby tries to intimidate politicians for not following the script and showing any criticism of Israel. The pathetic display by these politicians and the numerous Israeli/Jewish lobbies in the United States is a reflection on the state of the American government. Look, they're still trying. You can't make this stuff up: Link The Emergency Committee for Israel intends to redouble its efforts to bring to light Mr. Hagel's complete record for Senators to consider. Even today new reports have emerged of further anti-Israel statements by Mr. Hagel, including the slander (in a 2007 speech at Rutgers University) that the State Department was acting as an "adjunct" of the Israeli foreign ministry. The Emergency Committee for Israel will continue to work to convince a majority of senators of the undeniable truth that we can do much, much better than Mr. Hagel." - William Kristol, ECI chairman

Israel Forcibly Injected African Immigrants with Birth Control This is wrong. Not sure why there are people here trying to defend Israel's action of forcibly injecting African immigrants with birth control.

What do you mean what does it have to do with anything? Look at the list of all the popes in the past. Every single one has been old, white and European. It's how they roll. It's not about racism but about how parochial they are. There are talks about a French Canadian (who is in Latin America) and even an African becoming the next pope, but if I were a betting man, I'd say it will be another European. Most likely the powerful Italian, Cardinal Angelo Scola. There are many problems with the church and it mostly has to do with its resistance to change and better itself. Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini offered a clear-eyed assessment of the disease before his death: “Our culture has aged, our churches are big and empty and the church bureaucracy rises up; our rituals and our cassocks are pompous,” he said of , “The church must admit its mistakes and begin a radical change, starting from the pope and the bishops.”

The popes before Benedict also protected child predators. This is a problem with the institution. The Vatican’s aversion to change will most likely mean that another corrupt, old white European will become pope and he will continue to fight to protect the sexual abusers within the church.

Here is a comedy sketch nailing it: