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Absolutely they will, it's been very effective twice. And it will be a third time, CPC just handed them a ton of fuel with this convention. CPC would have been better off not having the policy convention at all. All it did was highlight that the Reform wing of the party still exists to the rest of Canada.

I think he will go against the party on some things. He's got a stronger mandate than Scheer and O'Toole ever had. I mean the CPC could decide to lose a third time in a row on social issues. That's not outside the realm of possibilities

Couldn't possibly be that everyone used to think about it like I still do, must be the CBC/left/educators. Lol Though I do think those that protest it the hardest almost always end up being closeted in some way. So I do feel bad, really

You'll notice that there's almost never any interviews with transgenders in the media. Every time they do the lazy thing and talk with activists, instead of talking to the people that have been through it and can comment on all the good and bad with the current system. In that article for example, there was nothing really controversial that the parents and family could say other than things are going fine. So the author had to become the activist, lol. So yea, save it for the media, not the group that's being spoken for

It's a weird title for the article because it doesn't go with what the parents said at all lol. Clickbait stuff. Yea in most cases (like this one) children are going to tell their own parents before the school. I know I would have.

I don't know about that. I'd say drag is much less accepted. The local Pride got subverted by the activist crowd a few years ago. I don't support them any longer for keeping the police out of the parade. At this point they are doing more harm than good for the cause. Many of my gay friends have similar sentiments about it. That the over the top stuff is counter to acceptance.

Yea a councilor or similar was what I was getting at with a cooperative approach. Most teachers aren't going to have the skills to talk to parents in a helpful way. And it shouldn't be their job to.

Yea the drag thing I've never understood. It originated as adult entertainment not intended for children. Dressing as a caricatcure of a woman (like this guy) isn't the same as dressing normally and just trying to fit in. It's not akin to transgender at all though it got lumped in somehow? I mean pretending to be trans is about as deplorable as it gets. Like blackface gets so much hate but this is the same. Guy should have been fired first day for this. Anyone who would do this just to get a firing settlement probably isn't safe to be around kids. Why the school board waited is beyond me.

Yea it is weird to me to hear this to be honest. In times past, school would have been the least safe place to transition and last place I would come out. I can't imagine that's actually changed in most places? Either way the dual life thing is super harmful. Even worse than hiding your true self from your parents. Julia Malott went into this on NP. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/julia-malott-the-real-danger-to-trans-kids-is-to-confuse-involving-parents-with-outing

The thing is support for a flawed education policy is not the same question as asking people what they think of trans minors and laws around starting transition. And that question hasn't been asked yet. So far the numbers just say to me that parents want to be involved in things, which is no surprise.

Yea for sure. The weird thing is the chuds or whatever you call them are the minority even within the CPC. Why is it that they get an outsized representation? Harper was the last that understood he didn't need to cater to them

Well he obviously lied and that should have been just cause for firing on its own. No one gets Z cup breasts from hormones as he claimed. You count yourself lucky if you get a B cup. Wish the reporters did their jobs and interviewed the kids though. It'd be real interesting to get their take since they were in the classroom with him.

I'm not in the 15% on that one as the question was posed. It's not realistic to successfully transition without family help as a minor. Living as your preferred gender 30 hours a week is no solution. At the same time minors shouldn't be outed to their parents until they are ready. It should be a cooperative approach and not assume the adversarial case.

There should be more caution for sure. I have no doubt there are cases where hormones were given out too freely. I can say that if you're far down the transgender spectrum there is never a bit of doubt about what you are. It doesn't come from indoctrination or confusion or any of the right's tries at explaining it. Waiting until 18 for the trues doesn't do anything but cause a lot of suffering at a crucial development time. Suffering that I really wouldn't wish on anyone although feeling it for a even a day would really change opinions. Anyways, the focus needs to be on better criteria for the process of transitioning. Separating the true trans from the rest. Going back to the past of pseudoscience isn't something either side wants. Banning it is a lazy/fearful right wing approach as much as the left's reckless carte blanche approach. But it takes some eating some crow to say we don't understand transgender all that much better today than in the past.

Seems it was a case of him trying to get a settlement out of being fired.

Better analogy might be parents that have tried to deny their teens cancer treatments. Courts have already said that teens do have some agency in seriously life altering medical decisions. Which is why I think the courts will go more of a middle ground, even if the CPC goes hard into social conservative territory. I don't think that they will though, at least not Deep South USA style. We are Canada in the end. Re: Permanent effects I'd actually say it's poorly researched and it's not well known one way or another. I've gone through that dilemma personally. One of many things that really ought to be, and that knowledge should inform laws and policy. An awful lot of government money was spent on LGBT but unfortunately not on good to know things like this. But no, it's not like you just take a few hormones or blockers during puberty and that's all folks. You have to keep taking them for life to get the desired effects.

Yea I don't agree with Poilievre being quite like Trump. Trump is a true narcissist and above any other beliefs he just wants to be loved by all, a true populist. I could as easily see Trump being left-wing if say the Democratic party had been absent of strong leaders when he got into politics. But on the topic of the NDP, yea it just feels like the NDP and Greens are content being loser parties (see what I did there, channeled my inner Trump). I think a party can be quite far left or right honestly and win if their ideas are well thought out. Layton almost did get there. Problem is, universal dental care isn't going to win you a majority or even a strong opposition if that's your #1 plank. Nor will environmentalism re: the Greens. Right now people need better jobs and affordable housing

The thing is, teens are neither adults nor kids as the right wing would like to see it so black and white. For example, the age of consent laws in Canada have evolved from this mindset, because honestly they were terrible. Not as terrible as many US states but anyways I digress. Teens get a lot of freedom that kids do not, like employment, driving a car, even getting married with parental consent. I think there will be some sort of more definitive law written where teens can get hormones at 14 or so with parental consent. Probably 16 without parental consent. It's not nearly as undoable as surgery. As for surgery, it's kind of a pointless debate because surgeons already won't do surgeries on you unless you are 18. So that's just political points scoring on something that already doesn't happen. The exception is mastectomy which can be done at 16, and I strongly disagree with WPATH on this one being special somehow. There are definitely big problems with the way the medical system deals with it. It is pretty much you get what you ask for, which sounds progressive but like we've seen with MAID is actually dangerous. In the end I think most people who set down the path end up much better off and happier, but that doesn't make for exciting news stories. I'm less hopeful for much reform here in the short term. Because again both sides trying to score political points

Yea I'd hoped the NDP would set their hopes higher than mid 20s seats after Layton, but I guess they're content with Jagmeet. Greens could have made real traction too. People care about the environment but they fell into the exact same trap. It's disenheartening but that's democracy I guess. Sometimes a party needs to be wiped out in an election to get their act in order.

Yea I mean no serious transgender would wear prosthetics like that. The goal is to be passable and fit in, not stand out. If you're doing that you're either a troll or still in the cross-dressing stage where it's a carthartic thing, and it's far too soon to be living as a female at that point

Yikes 69% against hormones for trans minors in all cases. Not a good look. Surgeries I actually agree with and on a side note it's odd they voted on these things together because they are very different issues. Surgeries are far more permanent than pills. On the surface it seems like a very shallow understanding of it all, which isn't surprising as a very specialized/niche thing to be informed on. Going to be hard to back the CPC as the so-called party of freedom. With that kind of support it's going to be hard for Pierre to keep his party in line on this issue. Kind of dreading what they cook up re: abortion and other issues. This really is the problem when the party is over-represented in the rural West. Ironically I think they'd moderate quite a bit with more Atlantic/Quebec/Toronto representation... but that might not come to pass.

Yea well they have the far-left wing telling them it's okay. It's nothing new, though. There's been intersex athletes doing the same for longer Though these issues are up to sports organizations, not trans people to handle. It's not like I have any say over what they do at all

Yea I don't disagree it's gone too far the other way. The problem used to be that you couldn't change gender until you'd done everything (i.e. sex change surgery, which is usually done last). Which was not really ideal either because you had to live 'as a female' for a year or more before qualifying. And it pushed people into doing the surgery, whether they really wanted to do that last step or just live outwardly as female. To me, the defining line should be that you are on hormones. That's really the gold standard for whether you're transitioning or not. Also its never said much in the media but if you're on hormones it's almost akin to what they give for chemical castration. The odds of any male ever going that far to abuse women is pretty much zero.

Yea and the worker's party won 103 seats, while the activist party will be lucky to cling to 25 Tells you which version most people prefer

Or perhaps too hard for those that remain NDP voters The party's changed and not for the better. Them backing the EA was shocking to be honest, about as anti-worker as it gets