TreeBeard

I’ll answer for you, since you’re dodging Yes you could start your own message board, media outlet, whatever and allow total freedom for people to express anything they wish. Is that allowed in China?

Who said there were no adverse effects from the vaccines? Be specific. Why would I believe “alternate media”? What data do they have that others do not?

With the hit to the economy from COVID and the subsequent recovery, how would a government stop inflation?

How many?

Do you find that the Theory of Evolution is incompatible with a god creating the universe?

I find the same level of evidence for the pixies as I have seen for a god to be responsible for NDEs. Do you have actual evidence for god-made NDEs?

Could you start your own message board in Canada and allow for total freedom?

Now that they know VAERS is run by the CDC, do you think they will claim the CDC is not releasing all the data? That there are obviously way more deaths by vaccine?

CDC runs VAERS. Why do you believe the VAERS numbers? Let’s assume every report is true in VAERS. How do vaccine deaths compare to COVID deaths? Some simple math should tell you which is safer, getting the vaccine, or not, correct? Oh wait…. You don’t believe the COVID death numbers, do you?

If you don’t believe the other government sources about the Virus and things like cases and deaths, why do you believe the VAERS reports produced by CDC? Colleagues?

I asked in another thread how the restrictions in Finland differed from Canada’s but no one responded. I offered the link to the Finnish government’s website explaining what they were. They looked very similar to Canada.

If there’s something you’re dying to hear an answer for, let me know. You can PM me if you’d like and I will go back and respond. You’re not understanding correctly. If the Mayo Clinic, or some other source that relies on data from experts, came out today and said America has 25 COVID deaths, not 680,000 then I would have serious doubts about the USA’s COVID death count. As it is, I have no evidence that the government info is incorrect. I tend not to believe the conspiracy sites, or people telling me they know someone at an unnamed hospital who says it’s not so bad.

I read about that. Did you just quote-mine Hinshaw? Sorry for the MSM link, but I don’t feel like trying to find Hinshaw actually saying this on YouTube. Might take me all day. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10034075/Alberta-schools-count-sick-home-COVID-case.html 'Our current framework that does not require mandatory quarantine, does not require close contact tracing, means that the disclosure of individually identifying health information as would happen if individual health notifications happened in schools would be a violation of an individual's privacy.' 'We do have a framework where schools if they see that there are an increased number of children that are ill with respiratory illness, or teachers or staff, they can work with Alberta Health Services. 'In some ways that is adding an additional layer of protection because if individuals choose not to get tested for COVID-19 but are home with an illness they are now counted in the list as being part of that outbreak, and so it's less dependent on needing a test to be part of identifying where there is an issue,' Hinshaw also said: 'Large scale transmission in schools is not common. Schools are impacted by community transmission but are not locations that drive community transmission outwards.'

I like the Mayo Clinic for COVID information. As @Goddess says, it is MSM free. I prefer that too. Journals like Nature and Scientific American are some of my favourite sources as well. They always link back to the peer reviewed papers that they are writing about. Why would you think I don’t answer questions?

They are the experts, yes? Like Mayo Clinic. Where did I say that I don’t believe their findings? Their findings are going to be analyzed by the Mayo Clinic to better understand this virus. The same Mayo Clinic who says the vaccines are safe and effective, which you don’t believe. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859 The news release from Ichor is pretty short….

What is the reason that you believe these results from this story?

Are the anti-vax people on this forum just flinging poo at the wall and hoping it sticks? “It’s the people who would die anyway that are dying” ”My friend in an unnamed hospital says it’s not so bad” ”The MSM and fake news aren’t telling us about all those vaccine related deaths” ”A father of three beautiful girls says restrictions are bad”

Fared better than Canada? I will give you Finland and Norway… they had very similar restrictions to Canada, as I showed in another post. Their mortality rates are below Canada’s. Don’t the anti-restriction people hold Sweden up as the gold standard for COVID response? Sweden - 146 deaths per 100,000 people Canada - 76 deaths per 100,000 people https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Mistakes always occur. Do you believe that governments everywhere are purposely inflating numbers? If so, why would they need to pretend this 14 year old was killed by COVID? Couldn’t they just put out fake numbers without needing a backstory?

I’ll reserve judgement until there’s evidence of either a god or brain function, or something else. Have you considered dream-pixies? Maybe pixies go around giving people NDEs….

So you don’t know the number of deaths from COVID…. But you know it isn’t what the experts say it is…. Because somehow most of these people who died of COVID were going to die anyway…. Did I get that right? Any reliable citations that could back that up? Until that happens, you only have proclamations, not proof.

Are you a moderator? Or just kinda bossy?

You can ask, I suppose…

If restrictions are the the crux of the issue, then why do you keep mentioning the flu and comparing numbers? Do you think most people hold the view that there shouldn’t be blanket restrictions, or is your view a minority position?

Do you think this is the crux of the entire disagreement? Can you tell us what the actual deaths are and your source for that number?