BeaverFever

They were not displaced Greeks they simply appropriated Greek culture as they had nothing comparable of their own

I blame the Vikings Serious though the history of warfare is mostly a history of men with long hair fighting hand-to-hand…often in sandals or even barefoot no less. In addition special forces have often distinguished themselves with longer hair and beards that would not be permitted in regular service (also certain specific trades like assault pioneers and navy were always permitted to have beards). So from a performance perspective I wasn’t concerned That said it did seem to be getting out of hand, I saw soldiers with ugly biker style zz top beards and others who didn’t so much appear “bearded” as simply sloppy and un-groomed. So it’s probably good to bring some structure and consistency back, we don’t need to return to the days of the “high and tight” and 24/7 clean-shaven tjough

How DARE you insult the MAGAs’ messiah on his birthday! Don’t you know today is a sacred religious holiday for them?

Absolutely true. So now you’re just lying about what I said in to your absurd logic that if someone doesn’t agree to whatever made-up criminal accusations you want to invent then it means they’re saying he’s completely innocent of everything including what he’s been convicted of. Shameful tactic. You’re asking who the prosecutor was? David Weiss, a Trump-appointed Republican Are you for real? People get convicted on felony charges for fraudulent bookkeeping ALL THE TIME. It’s the probably the most common white collar crime. Seriously give your head a shake Well he won’t get the death penalty or life in prison so that pretty much guarantees that Republicans will scream conspiracy. n matter what. He k even if he did, they’d still scream conspiracy. No you’re just parroting Republican propaganda. Look I will repeat the key word for you: YOU….YOU….YOU don’t know what he has done or not done or what any evidence for these claims might be. Since none of these alleged additional “crimes” have resulted in charges how do YOU happen to know about them? Similar to your constant inability to tel the difference between facts and your personal opinions you also don’t seem able to differentiate between what you actually know and what other biased sources have told you. Get it? No what you describe is the MAGA tactic of dismissing anything they don’t want to believe and you follow it to a tee even if you don’t want to identify as a MAGA I am a strong and effective thinker but if you don’t want to be called MAGA don’t allege conspiracies and assert imaginary accusations based on imaginary evidence with circular logic Claiming without evidence that certain heinous crimes occurred and then that lack of charges, convictions, and evidence for those crimes proves there’s a conspiracy is typical MAGA. Also claiming that the word of hyper-partisan operatives such as Dinesh D’Souza, Tucker Carlson etc constitutes “evidence” is also typical MAGA. If you don’t want to be called a MAGA them stop arguing like one.

Sure if he was caught in a drug sting and then they happened to discover the gun, but that’s not what happened was it? You can’t charge someone for drug possession because they had drugs in the past, you have to actually catch them with drugs in their possession. Don’t you know that? That’s what your ridiculous argument amounts to. *Don’t be silly. Not ONE person on this thread has said Hunter was innocent or a saint However law enforcement and a Trump-appointed prosecutor did not just conveniently happen to stumble across Hunter Biden’s misdeeds. Trump allies went looking for dirt on the Bidens. Perhaps Hunter’s escapades were already widely known in certain circles so they knew where to look from the start but the point is Hunter’s apparent crimes were discovered because Republican officials were actively hunting for a Biden. A jury has found him guilty of the gun charges and a jury will decide if he’s guilty of the tax charges. Liberals are able to say that with maturity and don’t need to scream made-up conspiracies and bogus claims of people being framed the way conservatives do whenever they hear something they don’t like and are doing now about Hunter’s conviction. The fact is you have no idea what he has or hasn’t done and your claims of secret evidence that has been suppressed is just more made-up MAGA conspiracy nonsense

They can strike a committee to investigate whatever they want. Take a civics course

No that’s just innuendo from a right wing newspaper. The actual investigation conducted by Republicans for Republicans found no evidence of illegality in the laptop.

It’s uncommon because this is typically an add-on charge when authorities take down gun smugglers, drug traffickers, gang members etc It’s absurd MAGA logic to assume that the fact Hunter wasn’t charged with crimes like that proves that he must be guilty of them. The reality is that Trump loyalists put the Biden family under a microscope to find SOMETHING to charge SOMEBODY with, given all the Trump acolytes who have been convicted and the many investigations into Trump’s own misdeeds. Hunter’s taxes and his gun application are all they could come up with. So that’s what he’s been charged with.

What a ridiculous thing for you to say. The whole reason people plead guilty is to get a lighter sentence. It’s not a secret backroom deal it’s a public deal between the defence and the prosecution. Look at all the Trump associates and Jan 6 insurrectionists who have pleaded guilty to crimes. The Democrat judge is the one who quashed the plea deal being worked out between Hunter’s defence team and the Trump-appointed prosecutor who brought the charges. I think the only gullible people are people like you who believe in conspiracies woth no evidence. If he pleads guilty for a lighter sentence, it’s rigged. If he pleads not guilty and is acquitted it’s rigged. If he pleads not guilty and is convicted it’s still somehow secretly rigged they’re just trying to make it look like it’s not rigged. So to recap you’re going to admit you’re wrong if BOTH of the following happen: - He is sentenced to at least 2 years in prison, AND -He serves the entire 2+ year sentence behind bars As you likely well know first time non-violent offenders rarely serve the entire prison sentence behind bars so I think you’re deliberately setting an artificially high bar so you can scream conspiracy And the 2 year sentence which you seem to have just pulled out of your ass is also unreasonably high once again so you scream conspiracy. As I noted earlier in this thread, the median sentence for this crime is 15 months and those most similar to Hunter (no prior convictions, etc) have received a range of 10-16 months, with 30% getting no jail time at all.

A Republican House committee said the laptop has no evidence of illegality. That’s the word of Republicans. Trump has a whole legion of former associates alleging misdeeds, impropriety, incompetence and general unfitness for office, one of whom testified at his trial and many of whom were his most senior White House officials. You write them all off with baseless shrieking of “conspiracy!!!”

Pick one. Trump has thousands of documented lies and baseless conspiracies and smears against politicians, including fellow Republicans, media personalities, lies about his own personal success and competence, lies about his record as president and so on. THE BIG LIE is of course the most obvious of them and really being an entire constellation of lies all on its own. The right also said the laptop contained child pornography and evidence of multiple crimes, which it did not.

I don’t have a dog in the gender identity fight but I’ll point out that ACPeds is not the professional body of paediatricians, it is a conservative anti-LGBTQ group founded in 2002, The group’s name is meant to give it the appearance of impartiality when in fact it is not. The SPLC has designated as a “hate group”.

MAGA’s Shocking New Lie About Hunter Biden Verdict Is Deeply Revealing Even the presidential son’s conviction is proof of a vast conspiracy against Donald Trump. It’s all about laying a pretext for Trump to go after Biden and Democrats. …It’s worth dwelling on how convoluted the new MAGA claim truly is. First, recall that the special counsel who secured Hunter Biden’s conviction, David Weiss, was originally appointed as a U.S. attorney by Trump. Did he deliberately handle his prosecutorial task skillfully in order to serve this sinister end of making the justice system appear balanced, thus secretly doing Biden’s 11-dimensional-chess bidding? What’s more, remember that the right exploded with fury last spring when prosecutors originally reached a plea deal with Hunter Biden (which subsequently fell apart), seeing the impulse to spare him a trial as another sign of a pro-Biden conspiracy. On top of that, during Hunter Biden’s trial, right-wing media figures relentlessly chargedthat Biden family members, including the president, were secretly trying to influence the jury and tamper with witnesses—more evidence of dark and dastardly Biden family machinations, this time geared toward getting Hunter Biden off. Now that the thing the MAGA right warned against (Hunter skating free) did not happen, it too has magically been repurposed into the same Biden-orchestrated conspiracy. Finally, recall that the MAGA right’s primary purpose in focusing so relentlessly on Hunter Biden has been to gin up a case for impeaching and prosecuting his father, mostly around a tortured series of claims about the Bidens’ foreign dealings. Why haven’t either of these things happened? Well, House Republicans failed to find any basis for impeachment after months of trying. Despite all that effort, they still haven’t found any grounds for criminal referrals about President Biden to the Justice Department (they have referredtheir claims about Hunter Biden). Meanwhile, another special counsel, Robert Hur, did not recommend charging the president with criminal mishandling of classified documents because he couldn’t find evidence of it. Hur, too, was originally appointed U.S. attorney by…President Trump. For the MAGA right, the problem here can’t possibly be that President Biden didn’t actually commit any crimes. It can only be that the Justice Department is too corrupted to prosecute them, and that House GOP leaders are too weak-kneed and feckless (another bizarre MAGA claim) to ferret them out themselves. Bizarrely, after all that, now that Hunter Biden actually has been found guilty of crimes, that also cannot possibly mean the justice system is operating as it should, because that would be exonerating to the president and affirm his claims that he is keeping his hands off the department. The enormous contortions required to portray the justice system as rigged at every turn show yet again that pretty much everything the MAGA right is saying about these matters is about laying a pretext for Trump, once back in office, to launch prosecutions of Biden and Democrats without cause, under the guise of tit-for-tat payback for something that wasn’t actually done to Trump and his followers. As I’ve argued, Trump and his MAGA allies relentlessly claim that he will seek “revenge” and exact “retribution” with such prosecutions, to reverse-engineer the deceptive impression that Trump was the victim of what he is threatening, i.e. prosecutions without a legitimate basis. Additionally, MAGA Republicans have constantly claimed that law enforcement has relentlessly targeted ordinary conservative parents (which is a lie) and that the prosecutions of January 6 rioters are illegitimate (they are absolutely in keeping with the rule of law). The sum total of all this monumental deception is that Trump and his followers are being massively victimized by our justice system, and that only carrying out mass prosecutions against the opposition will set that right. That the president’s son was found guilty by a jury of his peers who evaluated actual evidence presented by prosecutors—just as happened to Trump in his hush money trial—is kryptonite to this sleazy scam. Nothing is more devastating to the MAGA worldview than the idea that the justice system is actually functioning fairly. https://newrepublic.com/article/182603/hunter-biden-verdict-guilty-trump

Again you prove you have nothing to say but lame insults and you’re easily fooled by Kremlin propaganda and fake news. You’ve never been right about anything , you’re just a lonely hate-filled internet troll desperately waiting for your brown shirt to arrive in the mail.

If there was a secret deal he wouldn’t have pleaded not guilty. I’ll remind you the attempt at a plea bargain FAILED because of concerns raised by the judge If the judge was in the Biden’s pocket that wouldn’t have happened What you’re doing is dodging the question because like most MAGAs you want to make baseless accusations and predictions and you don’t want to be held accountable when those claims turn out to be BS. You want to be able to shriek that he got some secret special treatment no matter what the sentence is. SO I ASK YOU AGAIN : Tell us what a reasonable sentence is.

So did a thousand other things, including countless lies by the Right But that’s still not obstruction of justice except in right wing fascist land. BTW. A Republican House Oversight Committee investigated the laptop and concluded it did not contain any evidence of wrongdoing Biden’s tax and gun charges are not due to the laptop

Really? Hunter Biden committed street crimes now? Are you suggesting he was out mugging and killing people?

That’s not true. He is still under indictment for tax issues which is a separate case set to take place in California in September. This very law has already been challenged by Second Amendment activists and likely already headed to Supreme Court https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/20/hunter-biden-gun-charges-federal-court-challenges/70864665007/ It’s rare for anyone to be charged with this one particular crime without other related criminal activity like firearm trafficking which is why everyone is saying it’s so hard to speculate what the sentence will be. So this is your official prediction that you’ll be held to? Is Hunter Biden going to prison? What to know about the possible sentence after his conviction Tom Dupree, a former principal deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department, told CBS News that he does think Biden will be sentenced to prison, but more likely for a year or two, rather than a longer sentence. Some legal experts have argued that the charges brought against Biden are rare, making the sentencing in the case difficult to predict. Jessica Levinson, a law professor at Loyola Law School, told CBS News that it's rare for the charge to be brought as a standalone charge. And she added that she doesn't expect that the president's son will face the maximum sentence, or that the prosecution would ask for the maximum sentence. Levinson noted that "nobody should expect" to see the president's son "behind bars for a quarter century," though she made clear that some prison time is likely. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hunter-biden-guilty-verdict-sentence-prison/ Here’s what Hunter Biden’s sentence could look like According to the most recent manual published by the U.S. Sentencing Commission, which sets recommended sentencing guidelines, someone in Hunter Biden’s position would typically face 15 to 21 months’ imprisonment for offenses related to the unlawful receipt, possession or transportation of firearms. From 2019 to 2023, just 52 defendants were sentenced in a similar category as Hunter Biden, and 92% were sentenced to serve prison time with a median prison term of 15 months, according to the commission’s data. About 8% of people in that category received probation or a fine. …According to the commission’s data, a defendant comparable to Hunter Biden who received credit for accepting responsibility would see a suggested range of just 10 to 16 months in prison, and in practice, 30% of people sentenced in that category from 2019 to 2023 were sentenced to probation with no prison time. https://www.staradvertiser.com/2024/06/11/breaking-news/heres-what-hunter-bidens-sentence-could-look-like/

It has no bearing on the decisions of Justice officials. They get their expert opinions directly from the experts not from reading newspapers

Expressing an opinion publicly is not obstruction of justice…maybe it will be once the Trump dictatorship commences, but not as of yet.

Uh, no.

There’s hard evidence Trump did too, including a recording of him talking about committing the crime with someone who was already convicted for their role in the crime and who testified against Trump. Biden also didn’t do what Trump did a bunch of wild conspiracy theories of political persecution and call on his minions to mob the courthouse and threaten the prosecutor and judge either. Biden accepted reality for what it was and took it like a man while Trump took it like a lying whiny little b1tch.

Two incorrect statements You said he would get a slap on the wrist, West and ironstone said he would get off, I don’t think the others opined.

That’s correct, you Putin stooge

Generic and unoriginal insults and threats. Typical of a fascist thug. Thanks for proving me right for the thousandth time.