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The whole crew was out of action and cutting the wood is part of the firefighting effort. It’s also not clear whether this crew only cuts wood or whether they rotate between the fireline and other necessary work like this. Furthermore it seems one of the kidnap victims was in queue for a visa and following all the rules It’s yet another testament to the decrepit nature of US government that his file is still in process 7 years later A lot of the ICE kidnapping victims are people stuck in the legal limbo hell caused by incompetent bureaucracy and indifferent self-serving politicians: Firefighter arrested by US border agents was on track for legal status, lawyers say The firefighter, whose name has not been made public, has lived in the US for 19 years after arriving with his family at the age of four. He received a U-visa certification from the US attorney’s office in Oregon in 2017 and submitted his U-visa application with US Citizenship and Immigration Services the following year. The U-visa program was established by Congress to protect victims of serious crimes who assist federal investigators, and the man has been waiting since 2018 for the immigration agency to decide on his application, according to Stephen Manning, a lawyer with Innovation Law Lab, a Portland-based non-profit representing the firefighter. Another homeland security policy says agents cannot detain people who are receiving or have applied for victim-based immigration benefits, his lawyer said. Charging the man with an immigration violation was “an illegal after-the-fact justification” given his U-visa status. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/30/us-border-agents-oregon-firefighters

LOL Quebec’s rates go below 7 cents See Here: https://www.hydroquebec.com/data/documents-donnees/pdf/comparison-electricity-prices-2024.pdf Also google electricity prices Canada vs ISA and the search results AI will tell you: Canadians have paid less than Americans for electricity, although some Canadian cities now have higher costs than the US median Price Comparison Examples (as of April 2024) Montréal, QC: 8.05 ¢/kWh Winnipeg, MB: 10.53 ¢/kWh Vancouver, BC: 12.06 ¢/kWh Boston, MA: 47.31 ¢/kWh San Francisco, CA: 60.15 ¢/kWh Toronto, ON: 15.06 ¢/kWh and here: Feasibility check: Why the US aluminium industry can’t afford to lose Canada Once a global leader in aluminium production, the US now produces just 1.2 per cent of the world’s aluminium supply. According to the US Geological Survey (USGS), the US had a primary aluminium production capacity of 1.36 million tonnes in 2024, but only half of that capacity was in use, producing a mere 680,000 tonnes. To put this in perspective, the US imported over 4.8 million tonnes of crude and semi-manufactured aluminium products last year — and Canada alone supplied 2.6 million tonnes of that total. Why the decline? The biggest culprit is cost — particularly the cost of energy. Aluminium smelting is incredibly energy-intensive, with electricity often accounting for up to half of production expenses. In the US, industrial electricity prices are significantly higher than in Canada, where most aluminium smelters are concentrated in Quebec. Thanks to abundant, low-cost hydroelectric power, Canadian smelters enjoy energy prices up to three times lower than their US counterparts. This energy cost gap has real consequences. In 2024, for example, Century Aluminum closed its Hawesville smelter in Kentucky, citing soaring energy prices and resulting in the loss of 600 jobs. While the US has passed legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) to encourage clean energy projects, these efforts have yet to make a dent in the cost crisis facing US smelters. Canada’s aluminium advantage While US smelters struggle, Canada’s aluminium industry continues to thrive. A single smelter in Sept-Îles, Quebec, produced 628,000 tonnes of aluminium in 2024 — nearly matching the entire output of the US. This isn’t just about low energy costs, though. Canadian smelters are also leading the way in clean aluminium production, incorporating carbon capture technology and advanced recycling…. https://www.alcircle.com/news/feasibility-check-why-the-us-aluminium-industry-cant-afford-to-lose-canada-113385?srsltid=AfmBOor9uBWaiEQANv_kQjLTozHiuI-XqWFW_HZfZm-P1pOXKZ-t5rvV

US electricity is 2x or even 3x the price of Canada’s and operates on much older generation and transmission infrastructure. Every province except Alberta (of course) has a centrally managed and publicly operated grid (Ontario still has some complexities from when far-right premier Mike Harris trashed the province but basically still a centrally managed mostly public grid). Whereas US is just shitshow of various local and private players doing their own thing with very little coordination or interest in the bigger picture beyond their own immediate interests. Happy to join the Ontario anti-American rock throwing team. I got a nice hunk of Canadian Shield granite at the ready!

They’re a part of wildfire response crew, the work they were doing is part of whats required to fight the fire. And the entire crew was out of commission for 3 hours

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit There’s som truth to this one, But if you want to play this game then it’s fair to say conservatives OTOH are opposed to the very idea of doing anything for the greater good Denying the existence of a “greater good” was a central tenant of Reagan-Thatcherism, as the Iron Lady herself said “there is no such thing as society” Bullshit. Bullshit.

What team lol you think these two illegals were just out in the bush fighting fire by themselves? Over three hours, federal agents demanded identification from the members of two private contractor crews. The crews were among the 400 people including firefighters deployed to fight the wildfire, the largest active blaze in Washington state. … On Wednesday, the two contract fire crews were sent up to the northeast side of Lake Cushman to cut wood for the local community, according to two firefighters on one of the crews. The firefighters requested anonymity because they feared retaliation from federal agencies for talking to the media. While they were waiting for their division supervisor to arrive, federal law enforcement showed up around 9:30 a.m. Federal law enforcement asked the crews to line up to check their IDs, according to the firefighters. … One of the firefighters said members of the crew were told not to take video of the incident. “You risked your life out here to save the community,” the firefighter said. “This is how they treat us.” In a FaceTime video call from the other firefighter to The Seattle Times, firefighters in their gear were seen sitting on logs in front of federal officers. Some firefighters were dismissed back to their vehicles. One firefighter attempted to walk over to his company vehicle to get something to drink and appeared to have been called back by federal officers. In images shared by firefighters from the scene, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection vehicle is parked nearby. Officers wearing “Police” vests are seen arresting a firefighter, while another appears to be restrained. According to one of the firefighters, they were denied the chance to say goodbye to the detained crew members. “I asked them if his (family) can say goodbye to him because they’re family, and they’re just ripping them away,” the firefighter told the Times. “And this is what he said: ‘You need to get the (expletive) out of here. I’m gonna make you leave.'” https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/climate-lab/federal-agents-arrest-firefighters-working-on-wa-wildfire/

The entire firefighting team was taken out of action for 3 hours to show their papers to the masked ICE gestapo, who threatened them all with arrest and detention for filming and talking back to them. Ironically the firefighting team was almost entirely from local indigenous tribes, the original people to suffer from mass immigration.

2028! Hooray for dictatorship!

It’s not which is why i don’t even bother trying to translate you gibberish and trolling. 3 posts into this thread you still have not mustered an intelligent rebuttal to the OP, you’re just trolling.

Wow, that’s a lame comeback. To recap: I posted an article which you couldn’t refute so you responded with gibberish that didn’t have anything to do with article and contained zero facts What is not honest or factual, exactly?

Pointing out the very obvious very serious flaws in your infrastructure is not petty especially when you depend on energy imports from Canada and are tariffing energy-intensive aluminum from Canada that you depend upon and can’t produce in sufficient quantity yourself.

First of all, most of Canada’s coal exports are metallurgical coal aka coking coal not thermal coal. Coking coal is a vital ingredient in steel manufacturing, it is not burned for energy generation like thermal coal. Second of all, there is only one province in Canada (Saskatchewan) that still burns coal for energy. Even pollution-loving right wing wanna-be America province of Alberta has transitioned off of it. Certainly no political leaders are encouraging anyone to burn MORE coal, unlike Republicans and coal state politicians. Several Canadian provinces including the 3 largest produce virtually all or at least most of their energy free from any fossil fuel emissions and most have roadmaps to increase the percentage Third, ICYMI the article is not focusing on the environment, it’s on skyrocketing US electricity prices and its decrepit energy grid. By comparison the electricity prices in Canada especially Quebec are significantly lower than USA because Canadian grids are more modern and well managed unlike America’s. That’s why USA depends on Canadian aluminum from Quebec and can’t produce its own at scale The tariffs just mean Americans will be paying more for their products that contain aluminum, much of it from Canada

Once again your ADHD is showing. Slow down and read the entire article start to finish, then think before you type. The article clearly states the problem predates trump but his policies and killing new energy projects are only going to make it worse. Yes, crony capitalism. Its a very big thing in USA since time immemorial.

LMAO praying for you mr god Trump to save you isn’t going to accomplish anything. Trump is a big part of the problem and his executive order to just study the issue isn’t going to accomplish anything. Mandates to burn more coal which is one of the most inefficient energy sources isn’t helping while killing more efficient renewables isn’t helping. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

What’s not mentioned in the article is Trump’s aluminum tariffs, allegedly to increase US aluminum production Aluminum manufacturing is even more energy intensive than AI and quantum computing, there’s zero chance that America’s patchwork of decrepit, obsolete, highly fragmented and highly privatized can possibly deliver. Americans and the rest of the world still think of USA as this big shiny utopia but in so many ways its infrastructure and society are weak and crumbling before our eyes. It’t might still have a rep as the heavyweight champion of the world, but it’s not Muhammad Ali in his Prime, It’s Mohammad Ali after he was diagnosed with Parkinson’s. It’s been several decades in the making and all political parties at all levels of government are to blame, as is American society in general. .

Electricity Is Becoming Unbelievably Expensive as the US Power Grid Decays Into Ruin Shocking. Joe WilkinsAug 29, 3:19 PM EDT The US electrical grid is facing a stress test like never before. Thanks to a perfect storm of AI power consumption, climate crisis, crony capitalism, and a president bent on uprooting perfectly good energy infrastructure, the country's already-struggling power system is rapidly crumbling as costs balloon into the stratosphere. A recent analysis by Bloombergunderscores just how dire it's getting. In the country's largest continuous grid — a 13-state monstrosity managed by PJM Interconnection LLC — the media company notes that power costs have set record highs for two years in a row. Spanning from Indiana to eastern New Jersey, PJM's footprint includes some 65 million residents, as well as a constellation of tech industry mega-sites known as Data Center Alley. While the cost of electricity is expected to rise drasticallywith the growth of AI over the next few years, Bloomberg notes that, in PJM states like Michigan, Ohio, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, nearly 25 percent of residents already can't afford their utility bills. While PJM is a titan among US power suppliers, it's not alone. Across the country, Bloomberg notes that electricity prices rose at over twice the rate of overall inflation over the past year, putting the national price at a near-record high. As this is happening, the actual condition of the grid is decaying rapidly. A recent report by Bank of America found that nearly a third of transmission infrastructure, like high voltage transmission lines or substations, is already near or beyond its useful life span. Meanwhile, a whopping 46 percent of US distribution infrastructure, including utility poles and power line transformers, was found to be in a similar state. That makes it all the more baffling that US president Donald Trump is waging an all-out-offensive on perfectly good green energy infrastructure, the kind that experts broadly agree maximizes grid flexibility, reduces energy costs, and enables economic growth. Earlier this week, Trump's white house stopped construction on a massive wind farm in Rhode Island that was said to be 80 percent complete, as the president asserted that "wind doesn’t work." That project was estimated to provide enough juice to power some 350,000 homes across the east coast, and was just one of many imperiled by the returning administration. That said, while Trump certainly isn't making things any better, the current crisis is decades in the making. A major part of the problem is that the United States boasts the only macro grid in the world without a central plan. Unlike the singular grids managed by China or the EU, the US power system is a labyrinthian bureaucracy made-up of three separate grids, each a jumbled mess of various planning regions, territorial authorities, and public-private utility companies. To get out of this mess will require a comprehensive overhaul of the current setup — one that the current commander is chief is highly unlikely to authorize.. https://futurism.com/electricity-usa-expensive-decaying?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Fclimatechange

Wrong. It was explained TO an ass, and an idjut.

Most Trump tariffs are not legal, U.S. appeals court rules NEW YORK - A U.S. appeals court ruled on Friday that most of Donald Trump’s tariffs are illegal, undercutting the Republican president’s use of the levies as a key international economic policy tool. Trump has made tariffs a pillar of U.S. foreign policy in his second term, using them to exert political pressure and renegotiate trade deals with countries that export goods to the United States. The tariffs have given the Trump administration leverage to extract economic concessions from trading partners but have also increased volatility in financial markets. “The statute bestows significant authority on the President to undertake a number of actions in response to a declared national emergency, but none of these actions explicitly include the power to impose tariffs, duties, or the like, or the power to tax,” the court said. The decision from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, D.C., addressed the legality of what Trump calls “reciprocal” tariffs imposed as part of his trade war in April, as well as a separate set of tariffs imposed in February against China, Canada and Mexico. …. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/most-trump-tariffs-are-not-legal-us-appeals-court-rules/

We knew this would come back in February. We can’t control Trump’s bad decisions we can only decouple from usa as much as we can which will take time. US Courts just ruled Trump’s tariffs are illegal, the made-in-America problem will have a made-in-America solution especially as American job losses and inflation mount

Christ you are dense. Like seriously it’s already been explained to you that Canada’s smart targeted retaliatory tariffs, which are temporary, are different than Trump’s dumb, across/the board permanent tariffs against every country in the world. You’re clearly intellectually challenged which is why you couldn’t finish school, but surely you can STUDY REL HARD and figure that out. Secondly we are not “getting throttled”. We are actually doing much better than we expected back in February when we signed up for a fight. Surely a dropout like you has been in his share of fights and understands that getting a bloody nose is part of the fight. The rest of your post is the usual right wing hogwash.

It has not been debunked Yes Republicans openly revere the insurrectionists, claiming they’re just patriots defending the Constitution, political prisoners, pardoning them amd now a military funeral with full honours for Ashli Babbit

The tariffs are Trump’s doing, not Carney’s, you dummy. When Trump took office everyone except you understood that he would make life worse for everyone in the world, including his own citizens. Since the evening of Feb 1 when Trudeau went on live tv to announce that Canada would be fighting Trump’s illegal and unjustified tariffs and the road ahead would be rough, Canadians knew what wr were getting into We knew that Trump would cause layoffs and recessions on both sides of the border, likely far worse in Canada, and the only option for Canadians was to fight and pivot away from USA. And we voted for it in overwhelming numbers, knowing there would be casualties along the way.

Nope 100% truth. Republicans don’t think KKK should be outlawed. They don’t think flying the nazi flag should be outlawed. When those “very fine people” came out to endorse Trump he could barely bring himself to renounce them. And Republicans openly revere the Jan 6 insurrectionists.

But assaulting the Capitol building, trashing and vandalizing it, literally pissing and shitting on its floor and seriously injuring 140 of the police officers whose job is to guard it…..perfectly ok right? Republicans have always been opposed to restrictions on hate speech, holocaust denial, racist and homophonic rants of every kind, abortion provider hit lists and so on in the name of being the true defenders of “free speech”. The hypocrisy is hilarious

LMAO you are still in your alternate reality bubble clueless as usual. Everything I said was fact. None of your OPINIONS expressed above are supported by facts. A dropout like you isn’t intellectually equipped to tell the difference between fact and opinion much less fact from fiction.