BeaverFever

It’s why the crackpots find me so boring

What can I say? Reality is always more boring than fantasy.

These pro-Trump conspiracy theorists are the most brainwashed cult followers on the planet... soo deep in their delusional fake news bubbles and spouting logic that’s full of more holes than a block of Swiss cheese. It’s great entertainment!!

“The president, who lost the US election to Joe Biden last week, shared a video of election workers in Los Angeles collecting valid, mail-in ballots that were posted on or before election day from a ballot drop box. The video, which has been sharedthousands of times in recent days, falsely suggested something unusual was under way and has been repeatedly debunked. The Los Angeles county registrar confirmed that the ballots were collected on 4 November from a box that was locked at 8pm on election day and were later processed and counted.” https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/11/trump-twitter-ballot-video-election-fraud-claims

Carlson's claims come as the Trump campaign is mounting legal challenges to election results in some states amid unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud, some advanced by the president himself. There has been no evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 election and no proof of Carlson's specific claim that dead people somehow cast ballots in several states, including all-important Pennsylvania. Carlson claimed "nearly 3,000 potentially deceased voters" stayed on voter rolls there, according to a December 2019 report. Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt, a Republican, dismissed the idea during an interview on Wednesday. "I have seen the most fantastical things on social media, making completely ridiculous allegations that have no basis in fact at all and seen them spread," Schmidt told CNN. Schmidt highlighted "a long list of people that they said were dead voters who voted in Philadelphia. So, when we took a break between everything else that we're doing, we looked it up, each one of them, to see what their vote history was. Not a single one of them voted in Philadelphia after they died." An Associated Press report on Wednesday noted that claims about dead people voting come up at every election, but experts say there is no evidence for it. In some cases, voters simply have the same name and birth date as a deceased person. Minor errors in voter rolls, such as incorrect years of birth, can also suggest voters are too old to be alive. https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-claims-dead-people-voted-2020-election-1546785

Yeah that’s the standard Republican MO, play both sides: walk back your lies when you’re under oath or could get in trouble for lying....then go on YouTube where you’re not under oarh and walk back your previous walk-back. “I got played” lol

Nobody trusts you because you’ve repeatedly proven yourself to be trustworthy. Let me ask you this because so far none of your esteemed colleagues have been able ro answer Do you believe that for EVERY election from now on, the loser should ALWAYS allege massive widespread fraud demand investigations, question the integrity of the election system? Should the entire country give the loser benefit of the doubt every time and not assume he’s just doing it because he lost? Like we should just make this part of the normal election process now? Because that’s what going to happen. Im not saying he shouldn’t be allowed to file these baseless lawsuits, which will all fail. I’m saying Republicans should have the decency to not file them since they know they’re all bullshit

You mean where the postal worker admits O’Keefe coached him and wrote the affidavit for him and he didn’t know what it really said and he recants to investigators? Then he goes on YouTube (where herecant his recant Many of the complaints in these affidavits are “he said she said “ and given that Biden eon Michigan by over 100,000 votes these small local complaints even somehow proven true would only affect a few hundred ballots Every election in US history has isolated cases ov voter fraud including votes cast by dead people....still no evidence that this year is any different from previous years and that’s from the Republican officials in Georgia And by the way its not been reported who those dead people vote ld for, notice how Tucker just neatly slips in “presumably for Democrats”? And none of the right wing conspiracy nuts have explained why the Dems lost seats in the House and didn’t gain the Senate if they’re involved in a massive elaborate fraud conspiracy that involves thousands of people?

I don’t have 100% proof that you don’t have a dead body in your basement. Should you be placed under investigation. Should I go on national TV and make unfounded accusations? What’s idiotic is that you don’t understand Its not anyones job to provide “100% proof” that “there’s no fraud whatsoever”. It’s the ACCUSERS job to provide convincing proof that there is fraud AND that the alleged fraud was large enough in scale to make a difference...you’ve done the none of those things

You’re admitting to being brainwashed. You have a preconceived belief not based on evidence but what you WANT to be true and you’ll never believe otherwise no matter how much evidence, not even if it’s from sources you currently trust. And you cannot reconcile reality with tour beliefs without employing some ridiculously oveet-the-top grandiose conspiracy theory. Sources of information you trust get added to list of conspirators if they don’t tell you what you already believe Its literally how a cult follower thinks.

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USPS ‘Whistleblower’ Told Agents Project Veritas Penned His Ballot-Tampering Claim Audio of Richard Hopkins’ interview with investigators shows him walking back his claim of ballot-tampering and admitting he wasn’t fully aware of what was in the affidavit. Published Nov. 12, 2020 1:20AM ET A postal worker whose allegation of ballot-tampering was at the center of Republican efforts to challenge the outcome of the presidential election has admitted to investigators that Project Veritas actually penned the affidavit laying out his claims. A two-hour audio recording released by Project Veritas on Wednesday shows Richard Hopkins being interviewed by federal investigators over his claim, first publicized by Project Veritas, that he had overheard a postmaster instructing workers in Erie, Pennsylvania, to backdate mail-in votes to meet the Election Day deadline. The audio had been touted by the conservative group as proof that Hopkins was manipulated by investigators but still stood by his allegations, despite House Democrats saying earlier this week that the U.S. Postal Service Office of Inspector General told them Hopkins admitted to fabricating the claims. But instead, it captured him doing the very opposite, according to The Washington Post. When he was asked if he wanted to stick with his claim about ballot-tampering, Hopkins said, “At this point? No.” He said his allegation had stemmed from “assumptions” he made after overhearing tidbits of staffers’ conversations in the mail facility. Hopkins told investigators not only that his affidavit was written by Project Veritas but that he wasn’t even entirely sure of what the group had included in it because he was in “so much shock I wasn’t paying that much attention to what they were telling me.” A spokesman for Project Veritas acknowledged having a hand in the affidavit but insisted that the “affidavit was drafted with Mr. Hopkins’ input and requested revisions,” according to the Post...., https://www.thedailybeast.com/usps-staffer-richard-hopkins-told-agents-project-veritas-penned-his-ballot-tampering-claim

1) The baseless claims of massive fraud without evidence have nothing to do with the Democratic process They are a direct attack on it 2) The Dems never did this This is not the same as Al Gores recount which was required by law

I’m curious, what would it take for you to accept that Trump legitimately lost the election? Which people or what sources would you trust to tell you that Trump is wrong about this... or any other topic? Because I believe that you @taxme, and @WestCanMan will simply believe and parrot whatever Trump himself says even if after all his claims are rejected in court and all your trusted sources and Republicans abandon him and admit there’s no evidence to support his claims Your brains are hard-wired to zealously believe that ifTrump says the world is flat then it must be true and anybody who says otherwise is part of a vast conspiracy Whether you’ll admit to it or not, when people with your way of thinking latch on to a leader, in your mind you elevate them to a supernatural god-like infallible figure and when reality conflicts with that image the only way to reconcile the discrepancy is to resort to absurd far-fetched theories about vast conspiracies. You guys used to be the same way about George W Bush but now that he’s a thing of the past he’s chopped liver to you. Some day in near future Trump will be chopped liver to you also as you become infatuated and fall head over heels for the Next Man (and it will be a man I’m betting). Unfortunately based on your trajectory the Next Man will probably be a lot worse than Trump.

No evidence of a rigged election has been provided. You have chosen to believe there’s fraud ON FAITH hoping that the evidence will surface and you will be proven correct in the future. When that doesn’t happen and all of Trumps legal maneuvers have been dismissed by the courts, will you abandon your unfounded beliefs or will you go on screaming that there’s vast conspiracy?

So spit it out already! Either you’re confident he’ll win or you’re not. What’s the harm in a friendly non-financial wager?

The American people do. And they did. It seems it’s the Republicans who need to be reminded that they don’t decide the election. They’re the ones pursuing this.

Here’s whatThe Atlantic has to say about that: Lawsuits aside, what about the idea that state legislatures in Republican states could simply appoint a Republican slate of electors for Trump, thereby flipping the Electoral College to him? Is this cause for alarm? To begin with, even talk of doing so would trigger massive unrest and put legislators under unprecedented pressure. A Republican leader in Pennsylvania’s state Senate has said that the legislature has no further role in choosing electors, though there’s been some troubling talk more recently among Republican legislators to open an inquiry into supposed election irregularities in the state. Moreover, legislatures would have no legal basis for going against voters’ will. The Constitution does give state legislatures the right to set the manner for choosing presidential electors, but they have already set the manner: the use of popular election to assign Electoral College votes on a winner-take-all basis in every state but Nebraska and Maine. In theory, state legislatures could try to declare under a part of the Electoral Count Act that voters have “failed” to make a choice for president, entitling the legislature to choose electors. But voters have made a choice, and there is no plausible argument that fraud or irregularities infected that choice. For state legislatures to do this, we are out of the realm of legal arguments and into naked power politics, where the choice of the president would get duked out in Congress. We can keep going down these rabbit holes, and though surely there are some very dark possibilities, none of them is likely. Republicans know this, and they are perhaps just “humoring” Trump by allowing him to believe that he has a path to victory. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/trump-needs-three-consecutive-hail-mary-passes/617063/

No not what I said. But elections don’t get overturned because of a single case. Isolated incidents happen in every election. But there is zero evidence of the organized massive scale fraud that would be required for the hundreds of thousands of votes needed to turn the election to Trump. I am confident that Trumps cases will lose in court. But the problem with saying “let him have his day in court” when there is zero evidence is that you’re basically saying every election loser should drag out the election outcome with litigation even when they don't have evidence of wrongdoing. Every election loser would do it because they have nothing more to lose by trying and can at least be satisfied that they’ve sabotaged the winner’s term in office by fomenting conspiracy theories that they came to power illegitimately America will not survive that as the new normal Al Gores case totally different. He did not sue to claim fraud. NOBODY WAS CLAIMING FRAUD OR IMPROPRIETY. The Florida recount was triggered automatically because there were fewer than 2,000 votes between him and Bush. Bush’s lead narrowed to just 537 after the final official tally. As Bush’s lead narrowed, Bush successfully halted the recount in a republican- dominated supreme court, prevailing in court over Gore’s plea to COUNT EVERY VOTE. And yet Al Gore conceded the election despite disagreeing with the ruling... it was later revealed that had a statewide recount been conducted Gore would have won. Yet for the good of the country he conceded even though he was up against a Republican Supreme Court and Bush’s brother was in charge of the Florida recount

So you’re not confident Trump will succeed. Got it. Tell you what’s I’ll give you 4:1 odds. If I lose, I have to use the avatar of your choice for all of 2021, but if you lose you only have to use one of my choosing for 3 months. Does that sweeten the deal? We’re not talking money here just that little dog pic next to your name briefly changing to a pic of Biden or Obama or something.

So that’s 2 chickens so far. And then there was one. What say you, @taxme? Do your courage and faith in Trump Almighty also fail you when you’re called upon, the way they’ve failed your 2 fellow followers @Infidel Dogand @WestCanMan?

It’s not an actual group of people. There’s not like an antifa leader or a formal membership. You’re Antifa simply because you say you’re Antifa. Being Antifa is like being a surfer or a vegetarian or a dog lover. You are because you say you are. Now are there surf clubs and vegetarian meet-up groups and doggy playdate groups? Sure, but they’re not the THE entire group, just a small gathering of individuals who want to apply that identity to themselves.

Funny sentiment from you, given the “election fraud” claims you’re making woth ZERO evidence and every state official denying it. What have you said that’s “verified”?

And the total lack of ANY evidence?

Every state is the enemy of the people. Only Trump knows what the people want and need