BeaverFever

That’s not true at all. Just because someone had underlying health conditions doesn’t mean they were going to die anyway. Since the pandemic the US has experienced 300,000 excess deaths compared to the normal death rate in recent years with most of those (200k) directly attributable to COVID. The 200k doesn’t include people who died indirectly from COVID, (eg people who could not get treatment for some other condition because of healthcare shortages or loss of insurance caused by the pandemic, or people who committed suicide after job loss caused by the pandemic) but those would be counted in the 300k. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm?s_cid=mm6942e2_w Now having said that I think it’s fair to ask how many excess deaths are tolerable There were nearly 3 million deaths in the US from all causes in 2018 (the most recent I could find) so a 10% increase is significant. But most interesting is the way you Trumpsters are hypocritically trying to argue both sides of the issue at the same time: the pandemic is an overblown nothing-burger and no major response is required but also Trump is a COVID hero who has taken the pandemic more seriously and done more to stop it than any human on earth, and has personally saved millions of lives while reckless Democrats have blood on their hands from alleged mismanagement. These two contradictory claims are not compatible with each other and are just another example that Trump supporters will fucking say anything

That has been the accepted convention to date but the differences aren’t just between states, there are often also differences between counties in the same state. And in the Trump world every little inconsistency, inconsequential or not, is grounds to attack the legitimacy of the electoral process for partisan reasons. And that’s a threat to your democracy. Aside from the vote count, allowing so many local decision makers in the voting process also allows local officials to game the system unfairly, for example intentionally placing fewer polling stations in certain districts, and in locations that are harder to access, having fewer booths and stocked with older less reliable machines to make lines longer etc. And then there’s gerrymandering. In Canada we have an independent arms length federal agency that runs the entire election coast to coast including periodically redrawing the ridings, establishing nation-wide voting times and locations, administering the election and counting the ballots. Voting is never a gong show and usually only takes minutes

Are you talking about someone in the US? Chemo is covered in every Canadian provincial plan. Nobody in Canada gets told they've had too many heart surgeries and gets cut off

??? Om you’re kidding right? Trump is walking talking blooper reel

Voters in Nevada, Arizona and Georgia may be looking to ‘cure’ their rejected ballots. Here’s what that looks like So what is ballot curing? The process – also known as ballot remediation – allows voters to resolve an issue with a rejected ballot and get it counted. Most commonly this occurs when someone forgot to sign their ballot, or the signature does not appear to match the voter registration on file. A number of states allow this, but the process can vary down to the county level. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.wspa.com/news/election/voters-in-nevada-arizona-and-georgia-may-be-looking-to-cure-their-rejected-ballots-heres-what-that-looks-like/amp/

You don’t learn too good ?

THERE ARE NO DEATH PANELS

Apparently you didn’t know, since you stated something that is plainly false. Just admit you were wrong and put away the sharpie it’s not fooling anyone

In terms of 2020 total US trade: Mexico is #1 at China #2, Canada #3 but they are all basically the same amount of total US trade (14%) with little difference between the numbers. HOWEVER: Canada is clearly your number 1 export market at nearly 18%, Mexico is second at almost 15% and China is a distant third at 7.8% https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/top/top2009yr.html#total Last year Canada was also ahead of China in Exports as well as Total trade https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/top/top1912yr.html And today you learned something!

All the world’s governments are tyranny except Trump. Today’s headline from Crackpot Daily.

There’s no “death panel” of government bureaucrats deciding who can or can’t have life-saving treatment. Full stop.

Palin doubles down on 'death panels' By ANDY BARR 08/13/2009 07:05 AM EDT Former Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin defended her claim that the Democratic health care proposal would create “death panels” in a statement Wednesday night slamming President Barack Obama. https://www.politico.com/story/2009/08/palin-doubles-down-on-death-panels-026078 Poll: Four in 10 believe in Obama healthcare law ‘death panels’ By Elise ViebeckSeptember 26, 2012 - 03:23 PM EDT About four in 10 U.S. adults believe that President Obama's healthcare reform law will create "death panels" to decide patients' fitness for care, according to a new Associated Press-GfK survey. Support for the widely challenged claim has remained steady since 2010, when 39 percent believed "death panels" would result from the healthcare law. Today, 41 percent say the same is true. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/258753-poll-four-in-10-believe-in-health-law-death-panels The return of ObamaCare's 'death panels' By | Fox News This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," July 30, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated. SEAN HANNITY, HOST: There is new evidence to suggest the so-called ObamaCare death panels are in fact alive and well. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/transcript/the-return-of-obamacares-death-panels.amp Bachmann: Obama Wants "Re-Education Camps For Young People" (AUDIO) Sam Stein Rep. Michele Bachmann, who has levied the most bizarre and outlandish critiques against President Obama since before he came into office, did not disappoint this weekend. Appearing on Minnesota radio station KTLK-AM, (h/t Minnesota Independent) the Republican congresswoman expressed her concern that White House was trying to put in place "re-education camps for young people, where young people have to go and get trained in a philosophy that the government puts forward." Furthering the Obama-as-autocrat theme, Bachmann said the youngsters would "then they have to go to work in some of these politically correct forums." https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/bachmann-obama-wants-re-e_n_183552?ri18n=true Ohh and how did I forget that Obama is a secret foreign-born Muslim with a fake birth certificate...Trump was big on that one! You guys really proved that one didn’t you?? ROTFL That’s the problem with you republicans, ever since the Tea Party movement when the party’s evil idiots took over from the evil elites, you guys don’t even keep track of your own lies anymore. Everything you say is just some random bullshit made up on the spot because it serves you in the moment and then most of it’s totally forgotten later. That’s the thing about your conservative lies: if you spend enough money, you can convince some percent of the population that the world is flat, the moon is made of green cheese and all info to the contrary is part of a vast conspiracy to keep this secret from the public. But eventually you’ll have to direct your time and money to the next big lie and the your old lies get forgotten Also your characterization of how CNN covered those stories is false. As usual.

Yeah yeah I’ll put this on the pile of failed right wing predictions along with Obamacare death panels, Obama’s socialist re-education camps, Hillary’s emails, Hillary’s “secret illness” and dying before the end of the first presidential term, millions of illegal immigrant voters, Mexico paying for a border wall, Iraq war only lasting a few months, Saddam having WMD and AlQaeda links, the list of daily bullshit you guys spew is too ling to repeat here. But of course the big failure underlying everything, the failure and massive inequality caused by Reagan’s trickle-down economics that has dominated everything for 40 years, and is the real reason America is so bitterly divided.

What exactly do you think that story proves? Dude I don’t know where you get your garbage info but I gave you a direct lino to crowd strikes website and fucking quoted them extensively where they said there was evidence it was hacked. How much of a mindless sheep cult-follower do you have to be to keep believing otherwise? Fucking hilarious. Play Monday morning quarterback and Cherry pick facts from 6 months ago at the very statrt of the pandemic when the world was caught by surprise and little was known about C19 while totally ignoring the successful actions NYC took and disastrous actions red states have taken since then and continue to take. Again cherry picking. Sort that list by cases per 1M pop and red states are 18 of the top 20 states. You have wisconsin at #4 and rhode island at 18 that’s it. OMG do you seriously think Canadians are evenly spaced out across the vast arctic tundra or something? We live and work in densely populated urban areas no different than Americans. There’s no “huge natural advantage”. The only density that matters other than the density of conservative skulls is the density of cities where people actually live not the density of the whole fucking country including uninhabited wilderness. How do you not figure that out on your own?

You Trumpsters are desperate to talk about New York. New York’s cases and deaths peaked in March/April and have steadily declined since then and have remain low. It’s now November. Meanwhile red states are a runaway train shitshow. What’s the red state excuse?

Yep ?

There is no legal case. Trump’s M.O. since day 1 has always been to make baseless claims which his followers accept as gospel truth and never question. They don’t care what kind of permanent damage they’re doing to the US by going down this road. If the Trumpsters can’t rule America, they will destroy it so nobody else can. That’s their only motive here.

As expected Trump falsely claims victory and falsely claims fraud. The man is fundamentally corrosive to US democracy and it may not survive him. The worst case scenario for America was never that Trump would win decisively, but rather that he would win narrowly or lose and then falsely claim fraud

Nope

That’s 2 polls not “all the polls”

For fucks sake TRUMP Ordered him fired. Get it? McCabe was fired BY TRUMP!!! Politically motivated termination is not proof of wrongdoing. Trump admin obviously tipped off Fox as they often do. So why does it say this right on the Crowdstrike website: https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/ Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC? Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports. Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network. To reference, CrowdStrike’s account of their DNC investigation, published on June 14, 2016, “CrowdStrike Services Inc., our Incident Response group, was called by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the formal governing body for the US Democratic Party, to respond to a suspected breach. We deployed our IR team and technology and immediately identified two sophisticated adversaries on the network – COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR…. At DNC, COZY BEAR intrusion has been identified going back to summer of 2015, while FANCY BEAR separately breached the network in April 2016.” This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017, that Russia was behind the DNC data breach. The Senate report states on page 48: “The Committee found that specific intelligence as well as open source assessments support the assessment that President Putin approved and directed aspects of this influence campaign.” Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24: HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government. And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. Have any other organizations concluded that Russia was behind the DNC hack? Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of theIntelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017, all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach. Page 157 of the Senate report states that the Select Committee on Intelligence “conducted an extensive examination of the intelligence demonstrating Russia’s intrusions into DNC networks.“ Senator Richard Burr (R – North Carolina), who served as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the report was issued, confirmed this finding: “The Committee found no reason to dispute the Intelligence Community’s conclusions.” The Intelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017 also confirms that Russia was behind the DNC hack, stating on page 2 of the report: “In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016. This unclassified ODNI report was based on extensive classified intelligence collected by the CIA, NSA, and FBI; the ODNI determined the classified intelligence should not be released in order to protect the sensitive sources and methods by which it was collected. It’s also worth noting that other security companies, including Fidelis and FireEye have supported CrowdStrike’s analysis. Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network? Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32) and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, theIntelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.” 1) I call bullshit on the FBI meeting claim and 2) the Russians didn’t have evidence of a crime they just claimed to have dirt that would damage Hillary’s campaign 3) if a foreign government claims to have evidence of a crime committed by a political candidate, they should be reporting to authorities not the campaign team of the opposing candidate and the Trump team should also be reporting the contract to authorities not hiding and lying about the meeting as the Trumpsters did 4) The Russians wanted to trade the dirt for a promise to kill the Magnitsky Act if elected AFAIK this isn’t correct. and is just all Spygate conspiracy theory nonsense. There certainly wasn’t a recording when drunk Ppd was running his mouth to the Australian which started this whole thing. Dude if you think DonaldJTrump.com provides an unbiased review of DonaldJTrump you’re retarded. Go find another source. FACT: HCQ is useless for treating COVID. Scientists are free to experiment if they wish and they can publish their findings for other scientists to review. FACT: Trump the idiot isn’t a doctor or a scientist and shouldn’t have been promoting it. That’s not his fucking job. FACT: Trump was wrong about HCQ And after he shot his mouth off he made it into a big thing by doubling down on it. FACT: Government agencies were forced to spend millions on HCQ experiments even after determining it was of no benefit just because retarded and idiotic President Snowflake got his feelings hurt and need to always pretend he’s right. WTF are you talking about? We’re not comparing NYC and Japan, way to move the goalposts! Were comparing NYC to red state cities and again whats the red state excuse for their awful performance? I remember you trying to use Canadas national population density to explain our better results as if Canadians are all evenly spaced out across the arctic tundra but we also live in densely populated metropolitan areas. Red states are the least densely populated yet have been doing the worst for the past 4-5 months despite having the most time to prepare. What’s their excuse?? Can you though?

.... and the internet..... As Biden continues to pull ahead, Hillary might just go down in American history as the last presidential candidate to ever peacefully concede. Imagine that as Trump’s only lasting legacy. That and a few failing sections of wall along the Mexican border paid for by the the US military (not Mexico)

That’s bullshit, all of the polling said Florida would be too close to call and it’s still too close as of now although starting to tip to Trump.

Other that Clinesmith altering an email to say Page had not been a source to the CIA what are you referring to? Trump didn’t put Russia up to it, Trump took orders from Russia not the other way around Its pretty clear that the Trump campaign was coordinating its activities with Russia and had inside knowledge about the DNC hack. They were also admit they met with emissaries of the Russian government in Trump tower to try and get dirt on Hillary but it failed so no harm no foul. Like of you try to murder someone and fail it’s not a crime right? Pfft. You claim all their meetings with Russians were innocent. Why the fuck else are they having so many meetings with Russians during an election? In the rest of you steele dossier diatribe you conveniently leave out the part the whole investigation started when a drunk papadoupoulos bragged about colluding with Russia to an Aussie diplomat who tipped off the US gov Hilarious that you think Trumps website would be an accurate and impartial review of Trumps performance. It’s beyond retarded. Enough said. HCQ is not an effective treatment for COVID and it has serious side effects. That drug is needed to treat other conditions. Trump is not a doctor and should not be giving medical advice to his idiotic followers and was rightly criticized for plugging it. Unfortunately like Trumps sharpie-altered weather map when criticized he doubled down on his baseless claim. And his retarded followers made HCQ a conservative virtue-signalling identity issue and kept pushing it. Millions of tax dollars were wasted on the wild goose chase when he forced government agencies to pursue HCQ tests to cover up his idiocy You ate the one being retarded with you cherry-picked stats that are beyond idiotic. NYC is America’s largest and most densely populated city and also a global capital so it was hit first and hardest in the early days when little was known about the virus like I said the red-states have been the worst covid performers for almost 6 months now despite having several more months of warning before being hit and not being global magnet cities or having anywhere near the same population or density? I can’t even understand the rest of your rant it is so unhinged its barely intelligible English.