BeaverFever
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For the ten thousandth time: IF YOU’RE SO RIGHT HOW COME NOBODY BELIEVES YOU - NOT EVEN FELLOW REPUBLICANS?? Youue sode has already brought forward so much fake evidence: supposedly fraudulent out-of stte addresses that are actually perfectly legal military addresses, video of supposedly late mail-in ballots being counted after the election that are actually perfectly legal ballots mailed before the election date. It just goes on and on. Trump is just throwing as much shit as he can hoping something sticks. Or people will say “he made 10,000 accusations surely at least some of them prove something”. Or you guys think if every false thing you say 99.99% bullshit and 0.01% truth, then after you say 10,000 false things then the math will add up to be 100% truth (remember - Trump “loves the poorly educated”) And the Republican election official in Georgia have already debunked the video: “If you look at the videotape, the work you see is the work you would expect, which is you take the sealed suitcase, you place the ballots on the scanner in manageable batches and you scan them,” Mr Sterling said. Frances Watson, the chief investigator for Georgia’s secretary of state, told Lead Stories that Republican and Trump campaign observers were not told to leave, and that the ballots scanned in the surveillance video had already been counted, in contrast to Mr Giuliani and Ms Pick’s assertions. “Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do,” she said. “And it was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working.” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/georgia-suitcase-video-ballots-trump-b1766363.html Trumps tema just exploits your ignorance again and again bu taking things out of context. You jave no idea that military members and college students vote in their home state so they show you a bunch of addresses and you’re fooled. You have no idea that many states are required to count late ballots that are mailed before election day so they show you that footage and you’re fooled. You have no idea how ballots are counted and then scanned into archives so they show you that selective clip and you’re fooled. The one common feature of Trump supporters that I see over and over again is that they’re easily fooled where other people would at least be a little skeptical. The other common trait is that many of these people have very low levels of education If ever there was a case for finishing high school and completing post secondary is that it will minimize the chances of becoming a conspiracy-believing Trump supporter type.
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You clearly missed that the “actions argument” is that your conspiracy theories ate incoherent and half-baked and unbelievable.
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Translation: my half-baked and implausible conspiracy theories make no sense but only because the people involved in THE VAST WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY are fuckin’ dumb and crazy!! It’s not me it’s them!!!
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America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
You’re trying to have it both ways. Unproven accusations that don’t result in charges or a trial are fair comment against Democrats but smears if against Republicans right? And you’re wrong about the MSM. They reported the shit out of the email-gate scandal especially when the FBI publicly announced they were reopening their investigation into her just days before the election which turned out to be a false alarm and it probably cost her the election Doesn’t matter what you personally were doing or not doing. Tour whole cult was ans they clearly fully expected her to be locked up. If her crimes were so obvious and blatant and serious why didn’t Trump keep his promise to lock her up? Is he that incompetent of a leader that he can’t have her arrested for such a supposedly serious and obvious crime that happened in plain sight? I thought he was some kid of genius who could get anyone to do anything he wanted especially departments under his control. Either he’s impotent as the leader of the country or the claims are bullshit. There’s no other possibility here Of true then you must accept anything else as a smear Or it’s all fair game and there’s no such thing as a smear at all. I know the incident you’re referring to it was extensively reported by all the MSM outlets despite the rights nonsense conspiracy theories about MSM not covering such things. But the accuser’s confidant says: she "would not classify it or qualify it as sexual assault." Groping means grabbing someone’s ass or boobs or anything else as Trump is accused of doing by over a dozen women, which is clearly sexual assault. So whatever Trudeau did: stroke her hair, rub her shoulders put an arm around her. etc is not Groping despite the MSM using the word frequently. So much for the MSM being liberal propaganda -
America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Wow genius. Seriously you can’t figure this one out? These questions weren’t needed in 2016 because Hillary conceded and wasn’t launching dozens of lawsuits demanding to be made president after losing the election -
America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
The fun part of the Biden presidency will be Republicans sudden renewed hysterics regarding the national debt and deficit. Trump ran massive deficits year after year and the debt ballooned on his watch to record levels. Yet for Four years there was not one peep from Republicans who like to pretend they’re fiscally conservative and usually love to scream about such things Well get ready for the hysteria and over-dramatic screaming and “we’re all gonna die” deficit hawks to make their debut again Oh and on on that note Republicans will also flip flop on COVID and it will go from a “fake news nothing-burger” to “COVID is going to kill us all, Joe isn’t doing enough to save us he has has blood on his hands” Mark my words -
Top Donors to Trump 2020 Campaign The latest list of PACs and individuals who have donated to them. By Deborah D'Souza Updated Nov 13, 2020 Donald Trump announced his reelection bid as soon as he took office four years ago and raised a total of $863 million, according to OpenSecrets. This amount includes donations to his official campaign committee and outside groups like single-candidate super PACs and hybrid PACs or Carey Committees. The Associated Press called the 2020 presidential election for Joe Biden on Saturday, Nov. 7, 2020, making him the de facto president-elect. All state-level legal disputes and recounts need to be resolved by Dec. 8, 2020. If states do not name their electors by this date, Congress can challenge those electors. The electors of the Electoral College will cast their votes on Dec. 14, 2020 and Congress will count the votes on Jan. 6, 2021, formally certifying Biden as president-elect. He will be inaugurated as president on Jan. 20, 2021. Where Did the Big Money Go? Very large donations in U.S. presidential elections are directed toward super PACs (Political Action Committees), or hybrid PACs because of the $5,600 limit on how much an individual can give to a candidate's official campaign committee per election cycle. America First Action, a single-candidate, pro-Trump super PAC founded in April 2017 to support his agenda and deliver him a victory, has been the primary recipient of funds from his wealthy backers. Millions of dollars have come into the super PAC from the affiliated America First Policies Inc. nonprofit, but since it doesn't disclose donors, it's known as a "dark money" group and we can't be certain who contributed to it. Trump supporters may also give to joint fundraising committees set up for the presidential campaign and the Republican National Committee, for example, Trump Victory or Trump Make America Great Again Committee. Demographics The biggest industries represented among Trump donors this cycle overall are Health Services, Casinos/Gambling and Finance. Only $8,021 has come out of the president's pockets this time around, versus $66 million in 2016. The following are the top donors to the Trump 2020 campaign (2020 election cycle) according to processed Federal Election Commission data.*** They all gave to the America First Action super PAC. 1.Timothy Mellon, Pan Am Systems - $10 million An heir to the Mellon banking fortune and the grandson of former U.S. Treasury Secretary, Andrew Mellon, his is among the biggest donations this election cycle. He owns the largest regional railroad in North America, Pan Am Railways, which went up for sale in July. He's been notably reclusive and absent from politics. Republican operatives reportedly had to look his name up on Google when he came forward to help. 2.Kelcy Warren, Energy Transfers - $10 million Warren is the co-founder, chairman and CEO of Energy Transfers. The Texas-based company owns and operates the controversial Dakota Access Pipeline, which Democratic President-elect Joe Biden may shut down or slow the review process of. 3.Geoffrey Palmer, G.H. Palmer Associates - $6 million Palmer is a real estate magnate whose buildings in Los Angeles are known for their characteristic "fauxtalian" style. He was chosen to be part of Trump's Great American Economic Revival Industry Groups (Construction/Labor/Workforce) in April 2020. 4.Linda McMahon, America First Action - $4.5 million McMahon is famous for co-founding the WWE franchise with her husband Vince. She ran the Small Business Administrationfrom 2017-2019 and is currently the chair of the America First Action super PAC, to which she gave millions herself. 5.Patricia Duggan, Philanthropist/Entrepreneur - $3 million Duggan is a top Scientology donor. An organization in her name has also separately donated $3 million to the America First Action super PAC this cycle. 6.Stephen Schwarzman, The Blackstone Group - $3 million The billionaire investor and close friend of the president is the chairman, CEO and co-founder of publicly-traded investment firm Blackstone Group. He was chosen to be part of Trump's Great American Economic Revival Industry Groups (Financial Services) in April 2020. 7.Elizabeth Uihlein, Uline - $2 million She started the shipping giant Uline with her husband, Richard, in their basement in 1980. Liz was part of Trump's economic advisory team in 2016 and was present on his call with business leaders about the nation's COVID-19 response in March. Richard Uihlein donated $750,000. 8.Diane Hendricks, ABC Supply - $2 million She is at the top of Forbes' America's Richest Self-Made Women ranking with a net worth of $7 billion. She co-founded ABC Supply, the largest wholesale distributor of roofing products in the country, with her late husband in 1982. 9.Warren Stephens, Stephens Inc. - $1.5 million He is the chairman, president, and CEO of the privately held financial services firm, which was started in 1933 by his uncle. He was chosen to be part of Trump's Great American Economic Revival Industry Groups (Financial Services) in April 2020. 10.Cherna Moskowitz, Hawaiian Gardens Casino - $1.3 million Cherna Moskowitz is the president of Hawaiian Gardens Casino in California and the Irving Moskowitz Fundation. She is the widow of Dr. Irving Moskowitz, a prominent physician and philanthropist, who died in 2016. Other notables Several individuals of the DeVos Family have together given $1 million, including United States Secretary of Education Betsy Devos' husband and Amway President Richard Jr., Daniel DeVos, Suzanne DeVos, Doug DeVos and Maria DeVos. Walter Buckley, the co-founder and CEO of Actua Corporation, a publicly traded venture capital firm that underwent liquidation in 2018, donated $1.1 million. Individuals donating $1 million each include Ronald Cameron (Chairman of Arkansas-based poultry company Mountaire), Robert Wood Johnson IV (U.S. ambassador to Britain and pharmaceutical heir), Jeffrey Sprecher (founder, chairman, and CEO of Intercontinental Exchange, and chairman of the New York Stock Exchange), Rex Sinquefield (the index funds pioneer) and Dana White (President of the Ultimate Fighting Championship or UFC). Top Donors to Trump's Inaugural Committee By Deborah D'Souza Updated Dec 14, 2018 The Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office is investigating whether President Donald Trump's 2017 inaugural committee misspent the $107 million it received as donations, according to a report from The Wall Street Journal. Unnamed sources also told the paper that the criminal probe is looking into whether the top donors to the committee gave money "in exchange for access to the incoming Trump administration, policy concessions or to influence official administration positions." The report did not mention which specific donors are under investigation. Here are the top 15 corporations that donated to the committee, according to Federal Election Commission filings accessed by OpenSecrets.org: AT&T Corp. (T) - $2,082,483 Access Industries Inc. - $1,000,000 Allied Wallet Inc. - $1,000,000 Bank of America Corp. (BAC) - $1,000,000 BH Group LLC - $1,000,000 Boeing Company (BA) - $1,000,000 The Dow Chemical Company - $1,000,000 Glenstone Limited Partnership - $1,000,000 Green Plains Inc. (GPRE) - $1,000,000 Kraft Group LLC - $1,000,000 Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) - $1,000,000 MacNeil Automotive Products Limited - $1,000,000 The Madison Square Garden Company (MSG) - $1,000,000 Pfizer Inc. (PFE) - $1,000,000 Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM) - $1,000,000 Individual donors associated with high-profile organizations also gave generously to the committee. Las Vegas Sands Corp.'s (LVS) Sheldon Adelson gave $5 million, making him the biggest donor overall. Stewart & Stevenson chairman Hushang Ansary's wife, Shahla, gave $2 million. Owners of sports teams — including the Chicago Cubs, Houston Texans, New York Jets, Los Angeles Rams, Washington Redskins and Jacksonville Jaguars — all gave $1 million each. Among players in the financial industry, Charles Shwab, Paul Singer, Robert Mercer, Steven Cohen, Andrew Beal, Henry Kravis, Howard Lutnick and Scott Bessent all donated $1 million each. Leaders at energy companies Hess Corp. (HES), Foresight Energy LP (FELP) and Rosebud Mining also donated $1 million each in their individual capacities. https://www.investopedia.com/search?q=Top+donors+trump
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America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
And if all those accusations are true and truly criminal acts how come nobody’s been arrested or charged? Oh wait I know VAST WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY!!! Right? Didn’t Trump vow in 2016 that one of his first acts as president was going to be throwing Hillary in jail? Weren’t you all chanting “lock her up”? Whats going on there? So far the only people locked up during the Trump administration have been associates of the Trump administration And what about all the right’s smears that the Clintons murdered people and run a pedohile ring and Obama is a kenyan-born muslim etc etc? If that’s not a smear I don’t know what is. -
America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
An Isolated case of kids accidentally falling through the cracks of a flawed system that the Obama White House was not directly involved in designing ....that they then fixed once they were aware....,is NOT AT ALL THE SAME as the deliberate and systematic mistreatment of THOUSANDS of kids that was intentionally planned at the highest levels of the Trump White House and implemented overseas the objections of staff. No matter how far you stick your head up your ass to pretend these 2 things are the same, anyone not deluded from Trump koolaid can see they are totally different in every meaningful way. -
America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
No “the Obama administration” didn’t do that. You’re trying to make it sound like it was Obama’s policy to place oids with trafficking rings and equate it with Trumps policy to deliberately separate kids from their parents. There was 1 situation involving a specific farm in Ohio that “the Obama administration” discovered and prosecuted. And none of those kids were illegal immigrants crossing the border with adults claiming to be their parents. These were kids who entered the US alone and the farmer who was a legal resident would then falsely claim to be a relative who would sponsor them for resettlement. Americas shitty chronically underfunded analog bureaucracy couldn’t keep track at first but eventually they caught on and prosecuted. Meanwhile Stephen Miller’s plan to intentionally traumatize children for months at a time as deterrent is well documented and I’m pretty sure there’s a special place in hell already reserved for him. And when the story first broke you could flip from channel to channel and see a different Trump spokesperson telling a different version 1) Fake news there are no lids in cages 2)Yea there are kids in cages, Trump is shocked and disgusted, Obama’s put them there and Trump is trying to somehow get them out 3) Damn right there are kids in cages this is the only way Trump can keep us safe from the horde of illegals! Were all used to Republicans changing their story and lies over time but this is the first time Republicans have told multiple conflicting stories and lies in real time -
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Neither Biden nor Hillary are “the left”. Both would have to run as conservatives if they wanted to get elected in Canada with their platforms and members of the Conservative Party of Canada would have to run as Democrats if they ran south of the border Centrists like the Clintons, Biden, Chretien and Martin.....arguably Obama....are just capitalists who think capitalism works better if you throw the working class a crumb or two once in a while to keep them from rioting. Biden out fund-rose Trump at every income demographic including people sending very small donations of less than $200. Because Trump is a lunatic and the country is a shitshow and millions more people support Biden. It’s that simple
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America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
No the smear is your false claim that Trump’s “zero tolerance” policy of systematically separating kids from parents started with Obama. The Obama administration did not have a policy to deliberately separate children from their parents. While in custody, men and teenage boys were separated from women and children for obvious safety reasons. But Trump’s policy which is well documented as the brain child of Stephen Miller was to snatch kids including infants and toddlers from the arms of their parents and keep them separated and incommunicado for months at a time as a deterrent. And they even tried defending that on TV as a justified deterrent but it didn’t work with the public so they tried a few different versions of their story of which “Obama did it” is only one lie. -
And they’re all already laughed out of court and/or debunked
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Nope look at what they do, not what they say. Trump had more multimillionaires and billionaires in his cabinet than any other administration in history, including some of the financial predators from the Great Recession like Mnuchin. When Trump killed that law preventing financial advisors from misleading clients for their own interests who was he helping? Is that a problem conservatives were worried about , your financial advisor being too honest with you? When Trump killed limits on a toxic chemical in drinking water that causes brain damage in children, who was he helping? Is that a problem conservatives have, not enough brain damaged babies? I guess you gotta grow the future conservative base somehow eh? When Trump basically legalized all pollution as part of the “pandemic relief plan” while Republicans barely handed out any pandemic relief finds to families did conservatives feel supported? For the first time in American history, the 400 wealthiest people in the US paid a lower tax rate than any other group under Trump. Is that a working class problem? You conservatives still believe in the fallacy of trickle-down economics, are still anti-labour, anti- environment, anti-minimum wage, anti-regulation, etc..... nothing has changed except you wrap it all in this thin half-baked veneer of “something something globalism” to try and capture the working class vote and get them to vote against their own economic interests
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Oh FFS if some anonymous stranger from god knows what country posted it on internet it must be true! That’s not evidence, thats unproven and/or disproven claims posted on the internet. PS You missed the one about Biden having a lizard head and eating babies. That’s “evidence” right?
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And it seems they’re selling pardons to their criminal buddies too Thats in addition to the pre-emptive “blanket” pardons he’s lining up for himself, his family, Giuliani, and a host of other crooks
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That hilarious. The Republican Party is the official party of corporate elites. And the whole idea that ultra-capitalist, anti-government, anti-environment,anti-regulation, anti-tax, anti-labour “corporate elites” want anti-capitalist, pro-government, pro-environment, pro-regulation, pro-tax, pro-labour “socialists” in charge makes no fucking sense whatsoever To borrow a phrase from one of the Republican judges who laughed one of Trump’s frivolous lawsuits out of court: your whole ideology and worldview is a “Frankenstein’s monster” of conflicting and contradictory half-baked ideas and conspiracy theories desperately stitched together into one big incoherent mass of nonsense. Barr and the Trump campaign are clearly NOT in agreement and that is why right wing media today is now going after Barr. Barr said all complaints that were forwarded to him were followed up on and there is nothing more to investigate. You are getting increasingly desperate by the day. Funny how Trump’s “winning” looks exactly like someone who is losing terribly and how his “overwhelming evidence” looks exactly like someone with zero evidence. Could it be because he actually is losing and has no evidence ? Your denial of reality is amusing but also pathetic
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America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
You are a bit short on reading comprehension (again) .... I never said it was exclusive to “Republicanism”. -
America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
You haven’t really rebutted anything from my original argument. You choose to believe whatever is convenient for your ideology and choose to disbelieve anything that isn’t, crying “conspiracy!l”, that magic word that lets you pick whatever reality floats your boat at the moment. Earlier you mentioned Trudeau groped a women although he’s never been accused of that. Plenty of Trump accusers gave specific dates and times not that that alone makes a difference. You pick and choose. Whole your peddles baseless conspiracy theories and smears the reputation of everyone who isn’t signing on to the election fraud fraud, conservative heroes like Ezra levant spend millions of their supporters dollars settling defamation/libel suits and getting fined for smears. From the infamous Willie Horton smear against Dukakis to Hunter Biden and now apparently even Bill Bart and hundreds of people in between, smearing anyone and everyone is a cornerstone of Republicanism -
Boy you are slow. Let’s recap: you’re convinced there’s systemic fraud that altered the results of the election. Barr, a Trump stooge, officially opened a witch hun....sorry “investigation” to find such fraud and found nothing noteworthy. Why would he not be doing his job to protect and serve his master? The Trump campaign STILL has produced ZERO evidence and been laughed out of court tIme and again but you’re convinced that the secret evidence is out there. The stories you Trumpsters invent for yourselves to demy a clearly obvious reality are truly amusing.
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You can’t read very well can you? To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the AP. Barr didn’t name Powell specifically but said: “There’s been one assertion that would be systemic fraud and that would be the claim that machines were programmed essentially to skew the election results. And the DHS and DOJ have looked into that, and so far, we haven’t seen anything to substantiate that,” Barr said. How can it be spelled out any simpler for your tiny closed mind?
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Update: The imaginary web of conspirators has expanded to include Bill Barr
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