BeaverFever

A fertilized egg is not a baby

If the second amendment can be creatively interpreted to mean not just owning a gun but carrying it concealed wherever you want, then the freedom from “any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States or…deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law”can be interpreted as the right to not be forced by the state to carry a pregnancy to term against your will even though it might kill you. An interesting observation about your the USSC when they recently ruled a Christian conservative school coach Joseph Kennedy has a right to privacy when he hosts prayers at taxpayer funded school football games on the 50 yard line infront of the entire crowd; “But no matter where he prayed, coach Kennedy’s prayer was private and entitled to solicitude from the state….It says a lot about the new far-right supermajority that the sphere of personal privacy and dignity travels with men wherever they go, from the locker room to the middle of the football field, whereas there is quite literally nowhere a women can hide, once she is pregnant, from the state’s interest in regulating her if it so chooses. For a man, church is everywhere, and for a woman, there is no sanctuary…Indeed, Kennedy refused to accept any of the accommodations offered by the school district that would have allowed him to pray in private—because his privacy goes wherever he goes. The 50-yard line was his intimate spiritual place because he believed it was.… In Dobbs, not only are women of reproductive age denied the personal freedom Kennedy enjoys to claim privacy wherever he goes; they are also denied his spiritual liberty. They are given no spiritual authority over their own bodies. Even their personal, private spiritual values are trammeled by the state’s theologically driven interests in “potential life” and “fetal life” and “personhood.” The state’s zone of religious control swallows the spiritual preferences of the mother herself. Whatever her own religious beliefs may be, they are immaterial if she lives in a state that claims that personhood begins at conception. If Kennedy’s very body is a church that travels wherever he goes, a Mississippi mother’s body is not even her own spiritual domain. As she moves from state to state, from public to private, she is a potential crime scene, in which her beliefs and preferences have no relevance. The state may not place itself between a football coach and his spiritual life, but it can insert itself squarely between a woman and hers.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/06/supreme-court-women-rights-versus-men.html?via=rss_flipboard

What idiocy and gaslighting. Roe was not “overturned by millions of voters”. It was literally overturned by a few crazy activists on the bench.

And yet conservatives are celebrating the USSC ruling anyway just to pwn the libs. Pwning the libs by any means necessary is all that remains of “conservative principles” these days

You don’t understand. Concealed carry permits aren’t found in the constitution either. These activist right wing judges creatively interpreted the 2nd amendment to include them. By the same way, being forced to carry and give birth to your rapists baby even if it kills you or prevents you from ever voluntarily having a baby of your own…such a law arguably “abridges the privileges or immunities of a citizen of the United States” and “deprives them of life, liberty, or property” as prohibited in the 14th amendment. Like I said you conveniently pick and chose when to interpret literally and when to interpret creatively in order to push your partisan agenda

Yes with a few notable exceptions the poorest states are almost all red states and the most prosperous states are almost all blue states. Not a complete coincidence. But even in the wealthy places like Texas poverty rates and health outcomes are abysmal. The point on the infant mortality rate is the hypocrisy of supposed pro-life states that provide such abysmal care to parents who are actually trying to have a baby. If they were really pro-life they wouldn’t have these horrible birth outcomes where they sneer at mother and child as freeloading moochers looking for a handout just because they want to have a healthy childbirth.

If the 14th amendment only applied to protection from threats to bodily autonomy of the day it would have said so.

Many of your beloved states have already enacted near-total bans after 6 weeks which is before most women even know they’re pregnant. Many are now pledging to do more. They’ve also long practiced regulatory harassment of abortion clinics in order to make their operations impossible and put them out of business, many red states have only had 2 or 2 clinics in the entire state, and since the roe decision on Friday, already some states now have no operating clinics as they have been forced to close their doors perhaps permanently and take stock of their legal status Nobody gets an abortion after 15 weeks because “I’ve changed my mind”…. Except maybe in red states where the Republican government purposely make a timely abortion difficult-to-impossible

“Originalist” is a made up term meant to lend legitimacy to people who literally want to roll back rights to the 18th century when America was an agricultural society ruled exclusively by wealthy land-owning white male aristocrats, and a time women weren’t even considered people under the law. We supposedly only have rights literally as they were described and imagined by these ancient elites over 200 years ago Except for guns.. when it comes to the 2nd amendment all pretence of that “originalist” bullshit conveniently goes right out the window and the sky’s the limit on creative interpretations and expanded application to modern weaponry.

What a crock of shit. And hypocritical. 1) If what you say is true them why do you want “rule from afar” when it comes to guns then and are completely against local/state gun laws? 2) Constitutional Rights aren’t “rule from afar” they’re the opposite of being ruled

And don’t forget Trump pardoned him. BecauseTrump always associates with criminal lowlifes

Even Melania was complicit in the coup attempt. Her Chief of Staff resigned on January 6 after this text message exchange where she suggested Melania also call for peace

The truth hurts so you make jokes….schooling jokes from a high school dropout no less…. Here are the links to what are already well reported publicly known facts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_infant_mortality_rates https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_mortality_in_the_United_States

Its completely dumb and you’re just doubling down on it now. It’s now double-dumb. Also as a point of fact there are no states without speed limits.

Fact: Republican states have the worst infant mortality rates: Fact: Republican states have the worst maternal mortality rates Pro-life my ass

What a ridiculous lie considering the current situation amd all the recent conservative decisions they’ve been ramming through at warp speed

Yeah because abortion and speeding are the same thing. How fucking dumb is your argument. The courts decide what limits are reasonable and what isnt and they have repeatedly ruled that being forced to carry a pregnancy and give birth against your will is a significant infringement on life and liberty especially when it puts the mothers own life is at risk. Whereas any intelligent person can understand that being forced to drive at a slower speed under threat of small fine is clearly not an infringement on your liberty that violates the constitution.

You guys are getting stupider and stupider. What a dumbass question. First I don’t fully support the Azov batallion. I support Ukraine. If China invaded Canada I imagine Canadian nazi groups would fight against China as would you. That doesn’t make you pro-nazi. Second even if I did support Azov battalion for some strange reason that still wouldn’t mean I support people being forced to make hate material against their will. Only a complete Republican moron would think two subjects have anything to do with each other.

Universities and companies no. My understanding is that churches are allowed to because by their very nature they are exclusive and not open to the general public And since I know where you are going with this, “affirmative action” is not “no whites allowed”

Link works for me and the vile Republican who was arrested is definitely not black. Is mostly a made up lie by Republicans that doesn’t really happen

so you admit there are constitutional protections for abortion. What you describe is exactly what Roe v Wade did. States already can make their own laws and Roe decided what is and is not constitutional

What a terrible and stupid comparison. We have anti-hate laws specifically for that. Simply being a gay customer is not at all the same thing as being a Nazi and advocating hatred

Show me the specific line where it says there’s a right to an “AR-15” or “concealed carry permit” A half century of legal precedent has repeatedly ruled that 14th amendment, protects citizens private lives from state regulation a state law that forces a woman to carry a pregnancy against her will without considering her individual circumstances (ie due process) deprives her of her life and liberty especially when the pregnancy is a threat to her health or life. Note that the 14th amendment also clearly state the rights apply to people who are actually born see below, added emphasis mine: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

So you think companies have the right to put up a sign that says “no blacks allowed”?

Only according to your selective interpretation of the constitution where guns have more rights than women