BeaverFever

14th amendment doesn’t have to list ever single possible way you are free from government overreach, just like the first amendment can simply say you have freedom of speech without listing every single thought ams idea you are free to say. As for your hilarious ass- backwards opposite-of-reality bullshit, Democrats’ due process is exactly why Trump is walking around as a free man today. And if he had not received due process he would have just been thrown in jail and that would have been the end of it Meanwhile Trump supporters showed absolutely no hesitation to ignore and circumvent due process when they tried to steal the 2020 election with the BIG LIE: They falsely claimed without evidence that the 2020 election was rigged They forged false lists of pro-Trump electors for states that they lost and sent them to Washington After failing at over 60 legal attempts to present any evidence of of election fraud according to established due process, they falsely claimed Mike Pence authority to simply refuse to certify the election at his sole personal discretion and then they tried to pressure him into doing so They formed a mob and attacked the Capitol to stop the election from being certified and for some to lynch Mike Pence They stacked the USSC with highly partisan ideologues who just crank out right wing rulings often with limited explanation and without regard to decades of precedent. And this is only a short list of Republicans creeping fascism. I don’t even think we can call it creeping anymore its more like approaching full gallop.

So what, she didn’t say it was invalid.

No what bullshit. Clearly this SCOTUS is made up of partisan hacks, by the way the Republican majority is ramming through partisan Republican decisions one after another. You really think they’re non-partisan? Hilarious.

The constitution says RIGHTS begin after birth or naturalization…Therefore the unborn are not citizens Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State. .

Nor yours. But it’s fair to mention that for a half century prior to this highly partisan activist court, the Supreme Court said the 14th amendment DID apply to abortion, interracial marriage, birth control and other private matters that were no business of the state. Now the current conservative judges have ruled that states are free to ban all those things.

A fertilized egg is not a baby. Nowhere in the constitution does it mention anything about eggs, blastocysts, zygotes, embryos, fetuses or any other description of the “unborn”.

I’lll keep saying it: A fertilized egg is not a child Nowhere in the constitution does it say that fertilized egg is a human with rights. Even your partisan right wing Supreme Court isn’t saying that which is why they ruled states can still choose to allow abortion, which would not be the case if the considered it a human being.

Uh no YOUR reading comprehension is failing you, dropout. Re-read my post and the article again. You don’t get it.

You’re all religious conservatives whose regimes oppress women. The Saudi legal and cultural practice practice is literally called the “male guardianship” system.

Nope

Believing that people shouldn’t go to jail for it isn’t favouring it. I believe people should be allowed to get divorces, that doesn’t mean I “favour” people getting divorced. I believe doctors should be able to amputate limbs when medically necessary. It doesn’t mean I “favour” peoples limps being amputated. I believe pet owners should be able to out down a seriously ill pet, that doesn’t mean I “favour” killing pets. Get it? These lat term abortions only happen under very rare very extreme and very serious situations They are not done for no reason and they are regulated under medical standards not under criminal law, just like other surgeries, amputations and other medical procedures are . Doctors are still subject to criminal sanctions if they recklessly or needlessly perform operations and procedures

That is one of the the stupidest things I’ve ever heard on this forum I hear a lot of stupid things from the righties on this thread. There are so many ways to expose the idiocy of your statement but the simplest one is that 14th amendment protects bodily autonomy to both men and women. And Secondly Einstein, its not a contest. If there happen to be more ways that women’s bodily autonomy can be violated compared to men, - for example forced pregnancy - then they still are entitled to full protection. FFS you’ve said some really dumb shit here

Omg allowing abortion somehow means women have more rights than men? You are getting pathetically desperate. Up next: “The real sexists are the ones who DON’T want to force women to wear burkas!l In the twisted conservative mind, owning assault rifles, carrying concealed weapons and praying on your schools 50-yard lines are necessities but a 10 yr old not wanting to carry her rapist’s baby is a sexist “whim” Ridiculous. The online Trumpverse is full of woman-hating virgins and near-virgins who are one rejected advance away from the next incel attack You sound like one of them.

A fertilized egg is not a child and it is not equal to the woman Women’s needs and choices are not “whims”. You are so sexist.

Nobody “favours abortion right up to birth or partial birth” and that’s not a thing that really happens. People who support a woman’s bodily autonomy don’t even “favour” abortion. What we favour is the right of a woman and her doctor to make medical decisions for themselves in privacy Some red states have already suggested that they are considering laws that would see women who obtain abortions charged with murder. Louisiana just recently tried that earlier this year in their latest abortion law but then paused hat particular measure due to backlash. Also earlier this year a Texas a woman was briefly charged murder after suffering a miscarriage when witch-hunting authorities initially thought she had had an abortion. Both states have the death penalty for murder. You Republicans hate women so much you think they’re all so irresponsible and silly that they would have a “partial birth abortion” at 9 months on a whim just because “it’s bathing suit season”. You think women need conservative male guardians like you to regulate them under threat of criminal punishment because they lack sufficient intelligence and morals. You’re more like the Saudis and the Iranians than you care to admit.

Without any limits under criminal law. The Right wing Fascist mindset can’t comprehend that there are ways of regulating activity without imprisoning and executing people under criminal laws.

10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in Ohio By GADI ZAIG Published: JULY 3, 2022 11:39 A 10-year-old girl from Ohio who got pregnant after getting raped was denied an abortion days after the US Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, media sources reported on Saturday. https://m.jpost.com/international/article-711042/amp Give yourselves a big pat on the back, Republicans. You’re turning America into Saudi Arabia you must so proud of your theocratic misogynistic dictatorship

No you you don view both lives equally. You consider the woman’s life and beliefs and needs to be completely irrelevant. Also, a fertilized egg is not a child.

EVERY abortion is about the life of the woman, genius. That’s what you don’t get.

No, the analogy is idiotic. Abortion does not devalue human life, especially when the purpose of the abortion is to save the life of the woman. Know what does devalue human life? Forcing a rape victim to carry and give birth to her rapist’s baby against her will Forcing a woman to carry a high risk pregnancy to term that might kill her The entire Right Wing agenda: Capital punishment Shrugging off mass shootings and school shootings as an acceptable price to pay for the freedom of unrestricted gun ownership Banning and locking up asylum seekers and forcibly separating them from their children America’s private for-profit healthcare system that Republicans love so dearly Relaxing restrictions on all kinds of air and water pollution that kill and causes brain damage Opposing clean water and public health initiatives for Indigenous communities that have been under boil water advisories for years or even decades and have infectious disease outbreaks because “they don’t deserve it” And many more

No people like YOU were pro slavery. That’s why conservatives today are trying to sanitize and rebrand slavery as “not that bad”, call it “involuntary relocation” and erase slavery from history textbooks altogether as they say teaching about it is “divisive” and “unpatriotic” And it’s idiotic to compare abortion rights to slavery. Another one of your dumb analogies. If anything stripping women of their bodily autonomy and using the old interstate slave-chase laws as legal precedent for prosecuting women who get abortions out-of-state (as some anti-abortion activists suggested in Missouri )is more comparable to slavery

FFS again with the idiotic analogies. African Americans are not comparable to blastocysts, embryos and zygotes. They are not “widely recognized as being fully human”…..they ARE fully human. It is a point of fact not opinion

No. Yet another example of a conservative man knowing nothing women or their bodies. Shocker. Womens periods are APPROXIMATELY every 4 weeks. Therefore a woman who misses her first period could already be 4 weeks pregnant before she even has reason to suspect anything And for many/most women their periods aren’t perfectly regular and it would not be unusual be a week late from time. So a woman or girl could be in Week 5 of a 6 week abortion window before she suspects anything. All so some Christian can his force his religion on other people. Women should not have to constantly take pregnancy tests and then play beat the clock to get an appointment at a clinic that many red states have already made all but impossible to provide timely service due to regulatory harassment.

It gives states the right to and many have pledged to.

lmao Only a “constitutional originalist” would say something like that! Another idiotic comparison from you, keep it up! A fertilized egg is not a baby, period