BeaverFever

It is you who know nothing. Religious beliefs and ignorance prevailed until the dawn of the Age of Reason in the 17th-18th century depending on on how you want to define it. International law is what applies, not religious scriptures, period. Nobody in any international court is looking up bible passages for answers. No country has the legal right to invade and annex any other country’s territory matter what you think your fictional magical book says amd the Ocuppied Territories have never been part of the modern State of Israel

Sorry aren’t tou conservatives the ones eho supposedly get upset whenever someone screams “racism” simply because they couldn’t have their way? I’m not just an anti -semite but “a die hard anti-semite” just because I believe that international law, not the bible applies to territorial claims? You’re a joke.

To wit: A Grenade-Armed Ukrainian Drone Spotted Two Russian Soldiers. One Russian Lit A Smoke, And Asked The Drone-Operator To Kill His Comrade First. …It’s a story with terror, cowardice, betrayal, cruel determination ... and exploding heads... Both Russians know the UAV is there. One cowers on his side, quaking and covering his head. The other calmly sits, puffs on a cigarette and makes eye contact with the drone’s operator through the machine’s camera. The smoking Russian gestures toward his cowering comrade. Kill him, not me. The drone-operator obliges, at first. As the smoker watches from just a few feet away, the drone drops its grenade directly onto the cowering soldier—and explodes his head. Maybe the drone carried just one grenade. Maybe the smoker believed that, if the drone expended its grenade on the frightened soldier, he—the smoker—would live. Or maybe the drone had more than one grenade, and the smoker was desperate to live just a short while longer, and at any moral cost. In any event, the merciless Ukrainian drone-operator doesn’t spare the smoker. Either dropping a second grenade or handing off the mission to a second drone, they line up for a strike on the smoker. The Russian climbs to his feet, appearing to favor what might be an injured leg, and manages to take a couple of steps before the drone’s grenade explodes underfoot… There’s a cut in the border service’s video, implying a time jump as the same drone, or a back-up, returns to drop a third grenade on the now unmoving smoker. His head explodes, just like the head of the comrade he betrayed also exploded a few minutes earlier. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/02/a-grenade-armed-ukrainian-drone-spotted-two-russian-soldiers-one-russian-lit-a-smoke-and-asked-the-drone-operator-to-kill-his-comrade-first/?sh=357087d85098

So Russia’s top-of the line T-90M Main Battle Tank can easily defeat an Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV)like the US-made Bradley that’s been supplied to Ukraine An IFV is not meant to take on tanks and its relatively tiny 25mm gun can barely scratch the paint on the T-90 while the Russian T-90 could easily incinerate a Bradley with a single shot from its mighty 125mm gun, one on the biggest tank guns on any battlefield. And yet… In this video that has gone viral this week a top-of-the-line Russian T90M encounters a Ukrainian Bradley crew who probably should have fled from the mighty Russian tank. Instead the overmatched Ukrainians courageously pressed the attack and used aggression and skill to defeat the dazed and confused Russians who clearly had none of those attributes. As it’s getting pounded by the Ukrainian Bradley the Russian tank freezes and only manages to get off one shot, which misses completely, then as the rain of Bradley rounds finally starts to take its toll on the Russian Armour, the Russian turret starts spinning round and round wildly out of control as the tank crashes into a tree and the Russians bail out and make a run for it. This is like David knocking out Goliath with hurricane of rabbit-punches and is a perfect example of why Ukraine isn’t doomed: their soldiers have superior training, skill and motivation while the Russian army is made up of poorly trained, poorly motivated conscripts taken from prisons and street corners. Watch and weep:

Nice try. We have something called international law now people don’t live like according to the norms of 10,000 years ago I mean according to your argument Hamas hasn’t done anything wrong either then because anything they’ve done is also “just the way it’s been for 10,000 years now” The reality is since the end of WW2 countries have not been allowed to simply invade and annex other countries’ which is why Putin is considered a villain. When you occupy a territory it’s just factually called an occupied territory that’s just how language works. Who invented the term “occupied bathroom?” Maybe you guys lack some basic knowledge here: when Israel was formed in 1948 it did not include Gaza or the West Bank as those were declared to be Palestine. Israel had no claim or control over them. The Israeli military occupied those territories in the 1967 war (hence they are factually “occupied territories”) and has held them since. However they are still not internationally recognized as sovereign Israeli territory and Israel has no legal claim to them.

Thats Hamas but there are moderates in Palestine as there are in human societies everywhere- probably much fewer now given Israel’s current scorched earth bombing - but there are always moderates to he found eventually. Israel undermined Palestinian moderates in recent decades because the anti-peace faction in Israel, including Netanyahu, calculated that a Hamas Gaza would be manageable and would better serve their anti-peace agenda

It doesn’t have the right to simply declare Alaska os part of it territory. It only has the right it’s internationally recognized boundaries. Similarly Israel doesn’t have a right to West Bank and Gaza because those are not part of Israel’s internationally recognized borders. You know that right? That’s a lie Nobody cares about what the bible says. International laws are not based on the religious scriptures, much less the scriptures of ONE particular group, it’s totally irrelevant.

They’re only at odds with what a horribly brainwashed conspiracy cult-follower like you considers to be “proven”

So…you’re pro Israel but opposed to US destroying Houthi rockets being fired into Israel?

What a joke. Hilariously you’re judging all Palestinians despite the fact they’re not in a position of power. Egypt and SA certainly aren’t any weaker now than in the years when they were attacking Israel and even if they were that wouldn’t force them to actively pursue friendly cooperative relations with Israel. It’s possible to just remain unfriendly and uncooperative without actually going to war invading, you can understand that, right? Historically Muslims treated Jews better than the Christians did, that’s just a fact And as I’ve said before it’s hilarious hypocrisy on your part that you’re outraged by anyone who dares mention the historical atrocities, oppression and slavery committed by white Christian Europeans all around the world but yet you’ll obsessively rant about what Muslims did in medieval times

It’s not baseless it’s based on knowledge and observation

And finally the bloody Israeli-UAE war came to an end! NOT UAE and Bahrain have had secretly had friendly relations with Israel for a very long time Those countries are basically just banking entities moving other peoples dirty money around they’re not inter in much else Meanwhile not a peep from you about Putin’s support for Hamas eh? Funny, that. The Saudi-Israeli normalization under Biden that was just about to transpire prior to Oct 7 would have been far more significant but take your pick of Republicans, Russians, Iranians and Hamas supporters who are relieved that conveniently didn’t happen because of Oct 7

Trump is an idi0t and shameless liar, his bullshit boasts are not evidence of anything.

Not a sovereign Gaza, a sovereign PALESTINE. Israel had a hand in helping Gaza fall into the hands of Hamas because 20 years ago they figured it would weaken the secular Palestinian Authority, who was Israel’s main counterpart at the time, and also put a more extremist face on the Palestinian people therefore justifying further avoidance of peace talks. Israel assumed that Hamas extremism and terrorism could be “managed” and “contained”. Israel has decades of peace and partnership with Egypt, Jordan amd even covert partnerships with Saudi Arabia which prior to Oct 7 was about to become official and public Peace is possible but the extremists who are currently in control on both sides need to be marginalized amd repudiated. Until then will just be more of the same, which is exactly what the extremists want.

They may not win back 100% of what Russia stole but they’ve already won back much of it. As for it being “bullshit” you have no reason to actually believe that, it’s not like you have any knowledge or info that contradicts it. It’s contradictory to your preference narrative, so like a good Putin Puppet and many MAGA turds in general you just dismiss any inconvenient truth as fake news

A Palestinian state does not eliminate Israel and “eliminating Israel” is not the reason people call for a Palestinian state. The Occupied Territories are mot THEIR country, period. Israel has nonlegal claim to that territory. The same is true of many Israelis re: Palestinian’s right to exist. The fact remains that under the Oslo Accords, Palestine recognized Israel’s right to exist but Israelis refused to reciprocate and then assassinated their own Prime Minister for even attempting a peace process Further occupation will only lead to further terrorism, guaranteed. Warring parties make peace with eachother all the tome. Israel is at peace with Egypt and Jordan. Saudi Arabia was in the process of normalizing relations with Israel prior to Oct 7. . Sovereign nations do not get to unilaterally declare where their borders lie. You have 2 strawmen arguments goi here: - first you suggest that there’s something unusual or inappropriate about a world leader expressing a position about a conflict in another country, which is false - Second you suggest that Trudeau’s position is that Israel doesn’t have a right to defend itself, whichnis also false - Third you suggest that “everyone else” has a different position regarding Israel, which is false

Yeah i’ve seen many/most of those vids. Not sure which of those systems have achieved full operational capability as opposed to being prototypes - I would guess few. Those systems are all pieces of the puzzle but nome perfectly solves it and again I believe some of these are not yet in production or field-proven. Fun fact: Canada had the SkyGuard system 1989-2005 but like all our other air defence systems it was scrapped RE: Lasers that can allegedly burn through a drone I wonder about the practicalities of that if true …sounds like it would take a lot of power especially if over any especially long distance

He’s fooling himself if he thinks permanent occupation is the key to peace. That’s like saying the key to a happy marriage is to regularly beat your wife until she agrees to love you. Oppression doesn’t just lead to noble MLK/Ghandi style peaceful resistance it leads to horrifying terrorism that nobody should support. I don’t support Hamas at all and I hope that they are all killed or captured but I’m also intelligent enough to understand it’s the predictable result of Israeli oppression. As for your TNI / covid batshit it’s exactly that batshit. I get it you prefer to get your info from social messenger bots. But do you know your hero Trump takes credit for saving “millions” of lives developing and rilling out vaccines under operation warp speed? How do you reconcile that fact?

Yeah but there’s no one system currently that does it all and many of the more versatile ones are semi-stationary or move on heavy flatbed trucks so have limited use in the field The US army’s SHORAD Stryker is the only combat vehicle platform that I’m aware of that has multiple effects available (stinger, 30mm and EW). I’m aware that there are similar vehicle options in development or possibly even operational mounted on tactical vehicles like the new JLTV Humvee replacement and I think I even saw ATV/off-road versions but for all of these smaller platforms tge system is multiple vehicles working together. Even so, these systems alone still don’t cover the entire spectrum of threats so you need multiple systems somehow integrated. Plus when you identify a threat you have to have a way to know which solution to use. Given that many drones can be homemade or modified in the field or a hobbyist’s garage, you might often have no way of knowing how it’s being controlled or guided and what response to deliver.l amd have a very short time to decide. And finally while the electronic/ laser defence options might blind the drone’s sensors, fry its onboard electronics or jam its communications, that doesn’t necessarily make it fall from the sky like a rock, it might still fly or glide on its existing trajectory and either still hit its target or come down on some other part of your base or position.

Yeah why did I say tracked? Dog-bots are definitely in style! One of those things, heavily armoured, walking in crouched position with close quarters weapon(s) on it would wreak havoc in one of those long trench lines!.

And yet here is Netanyahu on Israeli TV rejecting any 2-state solution EVER and declaring “In the future, Israel has to control the entire area from the river to the sea.' Also note that most of the so-called liberal leftist anti-Israel pro-terrorist conspiracy western media chose to mistranslate this line of his speech as “west of the Jordan River”, including The Guardian, The Associated Press, and Al Jazeera Not that it makes much of a different statement either way. The Israeli news outlet covering the speech quickly deleted its link to the video after it started getting attention but it had already gone viral Another nail in the coffin of so-called left-biased media conspiracy claims .

And just so we’re clear Netanyahu has REJECTED any 2-state solution amd his own “from the River to the Sea” announcement

Sorry your examples are not correct in that warss always popular AT FIRST and popularity wanes as tue war drags on. Specifically your memory of W’s Iraq invasion of 2003 is incredibly incorrect. It VERY Popular and Bush and Republicans won in a landslide in 2004 because of ot. Only the left wing of the Democrat party was vocally opposed and they weee labelled traitors and terrorist lovers for it. The moderate Dems simply looked at their shoes and tried to neither support nor condemn for fear of alienating voters. Do you not remember Michael Moore being booed at the Oscars for his Fahrenheit 911 movie? In fact if memory serves last time I mentioned that event to you, it was because you were trying to claim that the Iraq invasion was broad bi-partisan support and was non-controversial, which has been the standard Republican revisionist claim on that Republican epically criminal blunder Furthermore regardless of Quebec, support for participation in world wars was immensely popular in the rest of Canada. Even so, Quebecker’s views were particular to their resentment of English dominance of politics and the military, and specifically opposition to conscription that would place rench Canadian under Anglo control, not because they were anti-war. In fact the Quebec volunteer rate in ww2 was 57%, higher than the 38% in the US. As for Vietnam, we see the same pattern: support and rallying around the flag at first followed by increasing opposition only after the conflict continues: The Gallup News Service began asking the American public whether it was a "mistake to send troops to Vietnam" in August 1965. At the time less than a quarter of Americans polled, 24%, believed it was a mistake to send troops to Vietnam while 60% of Americans polled believed the opposite. Three years later, in September 1968, 54% of Americans polled believed it was a mistake to send troops to Vietnam while 37% believed it was not a mistake.[96] A 1965 Gallup Poll asked the question, "Have you ever felt the urge to organize or join a public demonstration about something?"[97]Positive responses were quite low; not many people wanted to protest anything, and those who did want to show a public demonstration often wanted to demonstrate in support of the Vietnam War. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_United_States_involvement_in_the_Vietnam_War#:~:text=By 1967%2C according to Gallup,Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. And Desert Storm, Panama, Grenada, Falklands, the various air campaigns against former Yugoslavia and Iraq during the 90s were all very popular conflicts from start to finish You might have heard of a movie called “Wag the Dog” specifically about a President who fakes a war to gin up public support -something Bill Clinton was accused of doing with his Kosovo campaign and other airstrikes. Make peace with ISIS?? Are you for real??? Canadians don’t even support making peace with ISIS now in Iraq much less if they wee setting up a caliphate here in Canada killing Canadians I never said they’d “be happy” with Trudeau but they’d support him over ISIS. 1) What you describe is explicitly listed in Geneva Conventions as a war crime called “Collective Punishment” Theres no getting around it. I’ve said this many times in this thread already 2). If you agree with those principles then why don’t you belong Israelis “deserve to face the consequences” for the suffering and oppression that Israeli governments have opposed on Palestinians for decades? Declarations of which ethnic group “deserves” what treatment or mistreatment are subjective and arbitrary and have basis in any type of legal system. What do the Israeli government or the Israeli people “deserve” for their decades of mistreatment and day-to-day oppression of Palestinians that has also killed people not just in conflict but in arbitrary theft and denial of essential services? What about settler militants in the occupied territories who terrorize Palestinians with taxot or implicit support from the Israeli military? You claim you have principles but you don’t, you have a favourite side, and you cite whatever principles are convenient in the moment to benefit your favoured side. Thing is, most people who think that way aren’t even capable of admitting it to themselves.

Yeah Cdn Army podcast did a piece on counter-drone not too long ago They we’re talking about how difficult it is because drones cane be designed/made/modified to operate so differently from each other that there’s no one defence that will stop them all and you’ll likely face a bunch of different kinds. You need an array of different laser dazzlers, jammers etc plus kinetic kill options (missiles guns etc). They also said that a lot of the systems that showed promise detecting and killing small drones in test ls unfortunately also had a tendency to to get triggered by birds, which to me is not only was an unwanted environmental effect but to the extent it reveals the system’s position or depletes its ammo, energy, generates complacency from false alarms, etc has tactical consequences as well. I think the drone threat will remain very much unsolved for several years to come at least small low-flying ones.

Another dose of reality you can’t handle Here’s another one which sort of praises Russian abilities in certain areas so now you’ll have to tell me half the sentence is right amd half the sentence is “fake news” lol Ukraine drives Russia back out of a most crucial territory Namely, the electromagnetic spectrum The Russian military’s electronic-warfare capability was the envy of the world. Emphasis on was. In 23 months of hard fighting, Ukrainian forces have not only blunted the Russians’ electronic advantage – on key battlefields, they’ve tilted it in their own favor. … Electronic warfare, or EW, is invisible. It’s the practice of tapping, blocking and hijacking the enemy’s radars and radios – while preventing the enemy from tapping, blocking and hijacking your own radars and radios. It’s high-tech work, involving sensitive electronic receivers and powerful transmitters. It’s all about frequencies and wattage, time, space and coordination. After all, if you’re not careful, the same radio noise that might jam the enemy’s communications might also block yourcommunications. EW is expensive, unglamorous and requires a lot of training. So it should come as no surprise that many militaries neglect it. Not so the Russian military. The Russians, and the Soviets before them, had a reputation for fearsome electronic attack and defense. That reputation wasn’t unearned. In July 2014, during the early months of Russia’s initial invasion of eastern Ukraine, three Ukrainian brigades learned the hard way that Russian regiments always fight for the electromagnetic spectrum. … The Russian military arguably had the EW advantage for more than a year. But gradually, and with tremendous effort, the Ukrainians began to turn the electromagnetic tide. When Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces, cited his troops’ most urgent needs back in the fall, EW systems were at the top of the list. The first evidence of Ukraine’s new emphasis on EW came late last summer, as its forces prepared the left bank of the Dnipro River in Russian-occupied southern Kherson Oblast for an impending river-crossing operation by Ukrainian marines. Before the marines boarded their boats, Ukrainian EW troops, artillery gunners and drone-operators struck Russian jammers – and jammed Russian drones. The result is that, for several months now, the Ukrainians have controlled the air over Krynky, helping them to hold onto a slim bridgehead in the left-bank town. Kyiv’s EW troops repeated the feat around Avdiivka, a major battleground in northeastern Ukraine, a few weeks later. They targeted the radio-jammers the Russians use to ground Ukrainian drones while setting up their own jammers to ground Russian drones. “The Ukrainian advantage in electronic warfare seems to be holding in this sector,” analyst Donald Hill wrote. “The number of Ukrainian drone attacks have increased. A lot. The number of Russian drone attacks have decreased by the same amount.”… https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/19/ukraine-russia-war-electronic-warfare-ew-electromagnetic/ Russia’s Cash Inflow Plummeted During Second Year of War 2023 current account surplus down from previous year’s record Bank of Russia has forecast end-of-year balance of $75 billion January 19, 2024 at 9:31 AM EST Russia’s current account surplus slumped in 2023, the first full year under sweeping sanctions imposed by the US and its allies over the invasion of Ukraine that have curbed the country’s export revenues. The current account balance — the difference between cash flowing into the country and outflows — amounted to just $50.2 billion last year, dropping from a record $238 billion at the end of 2022, according to preliminary central bank data published on Friday. The decrease was even more than officials expected, and brought the annual surplus to its lowest level since the pandemic that started in 2020.… https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-19/russia-s-cash-inflow-plummeted-during-second-year-of-war Ukrainian Crews Set A Complex Missile Trap For Russia’s Best Radar Plane David AxeJan 16, 2024, On Sunday night, Ukrainian air-defenses shot down one of the Russian air force’s very rare, and very valuable, A-50 radar early-warning planes, likely killing all 15 people aboard—potentially including high-ranking officers. A Russian Ilyushin Il-22 command plane was damaged in the same attack. … Down one A-50, the Russian air force may have just two of the jets left; the other six A-50s reportedly are in need of upgrade and overhaul. Unless the air force is willing to risk the last two flyable A-50s, it must make peace with its new inability to provide radar coverage over all of Crimea. It must, in other words, accept the risk of continuing—indeed, escalating—Ukrainian missile raids on Russian forces on the peninsula. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/16/ukrainian-crews-set-a-complex-missile-trap-for-russias-best-radar-plane/?sh=bcef96d3566a